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nilberg
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 Posted - 14/10/2002 : 20:25:09
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My granddad ENGVALD (NILBERG) was born 29. september 1889. His mother was Marie Iversen and his father unknown (actually his father was a shipowner in Trondheim, Norway whom Marie Iversen worked for. We don't know his name). At the age of 15 (approx 1904-05) he was sent (by his father) to America to get an education. He started his own business over there and was (or so I have been told) moderately wealthy. He was a member of Nordmanns-Forbundet and left America just before WW1. It was meant to be a short visit to marry my grandmother Emilie Lillevold Johansen, but as the big war started she did not want to go. They stayed in Norway and later moved to Strømmen, Norway, where they stayed untiol my grandfathers death at by cancer 42 years old.
I've been searching the web for information about his life in America. We're having problems because we don't know if he took the name Nilberg before or after leaving Norway for America. My aunt thought his fathers name was Johan and that he might have used the name Johansen. OR the his mothers name Iversen. Search in Norwefian databases has not helped to find any records of his birth or of his mother Marie. We wonder if he started a family in America before he went back to Norway and that this might be the reason why he did not return .....
Any ideas where we can go from here ?
Kind regards
Elisabeth Nilberg
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Trond
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Posted - 15/10/2002 : 00:20:42
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Hei Elisabeth,
At Digitalarkivet’s record of emigrants leaving Trondheim there is information of Engvald (Ingvald Johan) leaving Trondheim in May 30, 1906 on the steamship Salmo for Hull England. His final destination was Edgerton, Wisconsin.
According to the Ellis Island records Engvald arrived in New York on June 13 on the S/S Caronia of Cunard Line. He is filed under the name Ingvald Nelberg
There is no scanned image of the manifest, but the manifest might give some additional information where he was going in the US and other valuable information about Engvald.
Trond Austheim
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thelebrity
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Posted - 15/10/2002 : 11:53:49
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This looks very plausible to me, although it weakens the theory about the father being a ship owner from Trondheim, as the 1900 records stats that Ingvald was born in Dønna, Nordland. The parish registers of Dønna aren't online, but a look up at the state archives of Trondheim should reveal the father.
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thelebrity
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Posted - 15/10/2002 : 14:57:10
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From the records you can see that Birger is born in Trondheim with another father (the Jacobsen your aunt mentioned?). I would think that if anybody in this mystery is a ship owner it's Birger's father. Ingvald was probably born in Dønna before Maria moved to Trondheim. Another mystery seems to be the name Nilberg. I cant find it to be a farm name. Do you have a clue?
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thelebrity
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thelebrity
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Posted - 16/10/2002 : 08:44:08
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There are other Nilbergs in Norway. At least a bass player in a blues band in the Stavanger area. Found him on the net. Good luck with gettin permission to open the suitcase in the attic.
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thelebrity
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thelebrity
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Posted - 01/11/2002 : 14:37:17
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It' s probably just a coincidence that Iver Iversen lives at Hospitalsløkken in 1893-4. He is in Trondheim also when Ingvald is born in Dønna.
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Borge
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Posted - 05/11/2002 : 08:11:05
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That Marie who was living at Hospitalsløkken 19 in 1894, was actually living just next to my gggrandfather's house. He lived in number 16 
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thelebrity
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Posted - 05/11/2002 : 08:52:52
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As Ingvald is born in Dønna and his halfbrother is born in Trondheim, I would think that Marie Iversen came to Trondhjem about when she first appears in the adress books - around 1893/94. In 1894 she makes a living from sewing. There was a national census in Norway in 1891. I think you would find Marie and Ingvald in that census - in Dønna. Unfortunately it's not microfilmed yet, so you wold have to get someone at the Riksarkivet in Oslo or someone with the time to do a lookup to check the census for you. Or make a trip to Norway yourself - lots of americans visit the Riksarkivet in Oslo during the summers to search for ancestors.
Here is the english web page of Riksarkivet:
http://www.riksarkivet.no/english/about.html
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thelebrity
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thelebrity
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Posted - 27/12/2002 : 15:26:13
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Hi again!
Just a little more about Marie Iversen's movements in Trondheim:
In the 1900 census she is living in Rosenborggaten (Rosenborg street) 26. But in the 1900-01 adress book of Trondheim she is living at Øver Bakklandet (Upper Bakklandet) 46. At the same adress one Anna Iversen (also making a living from sewing) is living.
Hope this is any help at all.
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Borge
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Posted - 14/02/2003 : 23:02:04
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Oooops, could that be Ivar Krueger, the well known Swedish Match King
The story of Krueger’s decline and fall is told in a book by John Train - "Famous Financial Fiascos"
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jurnie
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Posted - 26/07/2004 : 17:10:40
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DO you have any clues on the names of these Krugers. There as Ive been finding out TWO prominent Krugers in Norway. My family is from the Bergen Area. Then there is a branch in northern Norway. Which may be one of my 5th Great Uncles.
Feel free to email me if you need
Janet kruger
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Originally posted by nilberg
News for the Nilbergs (still don't have a clue where the name comes from). A cousin of mine in Norway (I never knew I had one) was searching for info on our family and found this site. She contacted me and we have shared our info. She found our great grandfather ! His name was Krüger/Krueger. He was married 4 times, rich and it's said he owned Nittedal Fyrstikfabrik. This can explain his contact with Hambro. Krüger lived in Dønna at one time, but we cannot find his name in the records. Our great Grandmother Marie Iverdatter was exceptionally pretty, or so we've been told...The story say Krüger paid for my grandfathers US passage and his eduation bacause he saw that his son was an intelligent young man... My grandfather also worked for one of his ventures when he came back to Norway just before WW1. My cousin has placed a request with Nittedal Bibliotek to find out more.
Any ideas how we can find out more about this Krüger caracter ?
Regards Elisabeth Nilberg
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researching the Names: Kruger/Krüger,Svang,Foster,Eastham,Dovidaitis,Finde,Leganger,Borgen,Astrup |
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Who was my grandad ?
