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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 11/09/2005 : 04:46:32
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Hi Heather,
Peter is a brother to Guna/Gunder that you originally thought was Otilla's father. I looked at the family tree that I found for him and his mother is listed as Berte Gundersdatter born 1785 which is pretty close to Batha Gunderson living with Peter in the 1860 census. The father is Guttorm Pedersen Gjennestad.
There is a Peter born 1808 listed as one of there children. Under Peter's children there is not anyone that fits Otilla but depending on where they got the information she could be. The emigration information for Peter is
Emigrated; On Nordpolen, Landed New York Harbor 20 Sep. 1850 Authority; Anna (Fullbright) Francis. 8-17-1994. Authority; 0yestad bygdebok, volume 1 by Kjell J. Brastad page 355. And Nora Nelson papers
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heatherc32
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 20/02/2006 : 05:44:06
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Thank you ALL for your help, I do believe that Brining and the others are right, that Peter is Matilda's father and is just not listed anywhere at this time. Perhaps I'll find that in the future. There's really no one else it could be and I so appreciate all the help. Now I just have the Ellison/Allisons to work on. Thanks again!
btw, I checked the Nordpolen passenger lists and found them. Here is a list of the whole family (I believe Inger may be my Matilda. I still don't get how Gulomsen/Guttormsen becomes Thompson!):
Caren Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 11 F Norway Norway Nordpolen
Caren Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 43 F Norway Norway Nordpolen
Guneld Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 4 F Norway Norway Nordpolen
Guthen Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 6 M Norway Norway Nordpolen
Gutonia Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 16 M Norway Norway Nordpolen
Hans Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 11 m M Norway Norway Nordpolen
Inger Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 20 F Norway Norway Nordpolen
Karen Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 52 F Norway Norway Nordpolen
Nells Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 28 M Norway Norway Nordpolen
Nils Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 26 M Norway Norway Nordpolen
Peder Gulomsen Sep 20, 1850 42 M Norway Norway Nordpolen
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 21/02/2006 : 03:08:53
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Have you found your Peter Ellison? Here is one candidate from the same area as Guttormsen/Thompson Peder Eilertsen
His parents wedding 1804
His father, Ellert Tallaksen , (48) was in 1801 census living on Oddersland farm (near Fløystad) in Tromøy parish. He was then married to Magnil Eriksdatter. She probably died, he remarried and named a daughter Magnill to honour his first wife. |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
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heatherc32
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 04:33:20
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Harald! Thank you! That could very well be my Peter Ellison, Peder Eilertsen was christened on May 27th, 1810 and my Peter was born May 10th, 1810. I will research it more.
I thank all of you so much. I consider myself a pro at searching, but this Norwegian stuff really gets to me.
I have a full subscription to ancestry.com if any of you need any look-ups please just let me know. I'd like to repay the favor. |
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 20:35:40
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A comment to the Thompson surname.
Thompson was not a Norwegian surname. In the 1865 census there was none in Norway using that spelling. Still there were more than 900 in the American 1860 census by surname Thompson that was born in Norway. Many of them probably had changed from the common Norwegian name Thomassen (son of Thomas). But a change from Guttormsen (son of Guttorm) might well happen.
Norwegians had no standard spelling of names before 1900. They often changed spelling. (But the pronunsiation was consistant.)
The first Norwegian emigrants 1840-1860 tended to choose a spellling of their names that was familiar to the Americans and made it sound nearly like the Norwegian origin if possible. Guttormsen in Norwegian is pronouced almost like 'Gu-tomsen. Perhaps the Americans would pronouce it more like 'Gut-'tomsen and that would be strange in Norwegian ears. So they changed to the familiar American surname Thompson, which sounded acceptable and gave them no problem. |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
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Advice needed/searching for Norwegian ancestors
