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opl
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 Posted - 22/11/2004 : 18:38:55
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| I am looking for some information about a brother and a sister from Trondhjem. I can't find them in the 1900 Norwegian census. Their names are Johan Martin Andersen/Anderson, born in 1865 in Lexvigen S. og P. and Anna Gunelie Andersen/Anderson, born in 1871 in Trondhjem. Their parents are Ole Andersen, born 1828 and Lorense Johnsdatter, born 1841/42. They have a sister, Laura Oline Anderson, born 1876/77, she went to America. Since I can't find them in the 1900-census, I guess they went to America too. Can anyone help me? |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/11/2004 : 07:01:04
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It appears that Lorense was widowed?? and remarried a Johan Johnsen Eggen. Here she is in the 1900 census with Laura Oline. Click Here When did Laura come to the US? Have you found her in Ellis Island. That might give who she was going to like a brother or sister
There is one Anna Gunelie in the 1900 census that could be yours but she is listed under her married name Lauritzen Berg Click Here It would require research in the parish records to find out if it is the correct Anna.
Carla
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 23/11/2004 : 19:15:10
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Hi,
this must be Laura Oline Andersen departuring from Trondheim on August 17th, 1907. Destination is Sherwood, N. Dakota.
Her ticket is prepaid in America, maybe by her brother.....?? 
I couldn't locate her Manifest at Ellis Island..., maybe someone else can....? Or the manifest could be missing.
The trip shouldn't take more than approx 10 days, so she should have arrived late August, 1907.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 23/11/2004 19:16:44 |
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opl
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Norway
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Posted - 23/11/2004 : 19:58:30
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I guess this Anna Gunelie is "my" Anna Gunelie, since she lives on the same adress as Lorense, Johan Eggen and Laura. I knew that Lorense had married Johan Eggen.
Laura left Norway August 23rd, 1907 arriving at New York City harbor on September 3rd, 1907. She took passage on the SS Oscar II. She traveled in steerage class and probably alone; she appears on the 25th line of the passenger manifest, a 31-year-old single female from Trondheim. Laura's passage was paid for by her brother-in-law, Mr. John Walker, whose address is listed as Box 45 Pleasant, ND. This is why I thought Anna Gunelie left for America too, since Laura had a brother-in-law there.  |
Pauline Baarstad |
Edited by - opl on 23/11/2004 19:59:25 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 24/11/2004 : 00:24:09
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Isn't his name John Holter.....?
Mainfest #1 Manifest #2
The first character i definately an "H", compare it to how Hancook, Mich is spelled, 3 lines below "brother in law"...
There is one John Hilmar Holter leaving Trondheim with his parents on July 29th, 1903.
He is born in 1880, and from Ytterøy in Nord-Trondelag. Destination is Two Harbors, Minn
Under 24) in the manifest from 1907, it says about Laura: Little halting of a fall 14 years old.
So she was limping... Could that be why she has this "Admitted" by her name...? Noone else has this stamp...
Jan P |
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opl
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Posted - 28/11/2004 : 12:54:56
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You are right, the name is Holter. I got the information from a cousin in USA, he must have read it wrong. But if this is Anna Gunelie's husband, she must have remarried? The churchbooks are not on the Internet are they? Have anyone found anything about Johan Martin?
It wasn't any fall that had hurt Laura's leg. This problem stemmed from a bout with Polio as a child. She lied when she came to America, afraid that if she told the truth she would be sent back to Norway.
Laura married Peder Baarstad in America. He was a widower, his wife Hanna died of TB. It is said in the family that Hanna and Laura were cousins, but I can't find out how. After checking a lot of papers, it appears to me that it is impossible that Hanna and Laura were cousins, at least by blood. I thought that one of Hanna's relatives were married with one of Laura's brother or sister, but to find out if that is correct, I need to find Laura's brother or sister. And to do that I need some help! |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/11/2004 : 15:14:15
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I think you need access to Ancestry.com, and the 1910-census for North Dakota.
Look-up John Holter there, and find out who he's living with...
It could of course be a false relationship also. It was becoming harder to enter the US in those days, and a lot of people "made up" cousins etc to visit, just to get access...
Jan
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Hopkins
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Posted - 28/11/2004 : 17:16:37
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There are four men named John Holter listed in Minnesota in the index of the 1910 US census. One in Two Harbors -- appears to be single and living in a rooming house - age, birthplace and immigration year not listed.
One in North Dakota - single, 31 yrs old and born in Minnesota.
The indexes show 19 total John Holters in the 1910 US census, five of those listed as born in Norway - those five live in Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana and Wisconsin.
I've been unable to locate any place in North Dakota called Pleasant. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/11/2004 : 18:17:48
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It could be the township Pleasant Lake in Benson county, North Dakota.
Or could it be Pleasant township in Lincoln County, South Dakota?
According to the 1880-census "Norwegians living in Dakota territory", every Norwegian living in "Pleasant", lived in Pleasant, Lincoln County.
Jan |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/11/2004 : 06:18:52
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In her departure records from Trondhiem it says she is going to Sherwood ND which is in Renville County. In the BLM there is one John Holter homesteading in Renville in 1908, township 163N and a John H Holter filed in Mountrail county in 1911 township 155N.
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