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Gerdt Riise
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Posted - 31/12/2004 : 19:25:06
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I am looking for a Peter Martin Merlees/Merilies, who in Bergen, Norway around the year 1854 (?) married Susanne Möller, and had 4 children: Jacoba Agnethe born 1854, Peter Nicolai born 1856, Jörgen Lund Möller born 1858 and Marie Antonette Bothner born 1860. Does anyone know anything about this person, where he came from and who his parents were? |
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Tint
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ninakarls
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Norway
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Posted - 01/01/2005 : 20:18:29
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Peter Martin Petersen Mæreleer Uk styrmand Christiansund 25 Susanne Møller Jfr Bergen wed in Bergen 23 Sep 08 1850 He was born in Kristiansund about 1825
Wife's birth/baptism: 1827 Mai 26 Jun 17 Susanne f Toldbetjent Jacob Møller 6-7 Agnethe Marie Møller f.Møller
Children born/baptised in Bergen/Nykirken: 1851 13 Okt 28 Feb 09 Martha Christine f Styrmand Peter Martin Petersen Merilees 2-14 Susanne Møller 1854 1 Okt 28 Jan 08 Jacoba Agnethe f Skibsfører Martin Merilees 1-10 Susanne Møller 1856 Sep 18 Nov 02 Peter Nicolai m Skipper Peter M. Merilies 1-5 Susanne Møller 1858 Okt 06 Nov 07 Jørgen Lund Møller m Skipper Peter Martin Merelies 1-104 Susanne Møller 1860 Aug 15 Sep 16 Marie Antonette Bothner f Styrmand Peter Martin Merelees 1-104 Susanne Møller
Is there a relation to this family in 1865-census? Nykirkens Sogn Bergen Ole Merles Ole Andreas Merelees/Merlees skipper, husfader g 41 m Bergen Dorothea Merlees b. Reutzer husmoder g 43 f Bergen Bertha Susanna Merlees* datter u 13 f Bergen Dorothea Amalia Merlees* datter u 12 f Bergen Oliva Andrea Merlees* datter u 10 f Bergen Josephine Magdalene Merlees* datter u 8 f Bergen
Could widowed housekeeper Marta Merlis be Peter's mother? 1865-telling for 1503 Christianssund 323 paa Indlandet Christianssund (Hans Botner) Hans Botner Husfader Skibsfører g 70 m Ryge Prgj. Karen Botner Kone g 68 k Kværnæs s i de senere Aar Marta Merlis Husholsker!! e 67 k Christiansund Anton Bothner Logende Skibsfører g 30 m Ryge Prgj. Marie Botner Kone g 38 k Christiansund Rangnil Bothner Datter ug 8 k Christiansund Hans Bothner Sønd ug 5 m Christiansund Petter Nicolai Bothner Sønd ug 3 m Christiansund Martha Kjerstine Bothner* Datter ug 1 k Christiansund Søren Bothner Logerende Skibsfør!! ug 23 m Ryge Prgj.
All the different spellings of the surname may indicate foreign origin. |
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Gerdt Riise
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Sweden
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Posted - 01/01/2005 : 22:30:28
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Yes, Marta Merlis could very well be the mother of Peter Martin! There is a man called Adam Merelias (there are a lot of different spellings of this last name) born in 1765 in Bergen. His oldest son, also called Adam b. 1792 is probably the father of Ole A. b. 1825. It would be nice to find the husband of Marta Merlis. It could be that he is one of the younger brothers of Adam b 1792. In that case it could be Peter Nicolaj b.1796 or Hans Heinrich b. 1799. The youngest brother Jacob Christian is born in 1803 - he is a little to young to marry Martha who seems to be born in 1798.
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ninakarls
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Norway
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Posted - 02/01/2005 : 00:48:26
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So in 1801 the surname was Areliesen: 11. Rode 231 Adam Areliesen Huusfader 38 Begge i 1. ægteskab Styrmand paa reysen F Marie Wichers Hans kone 32 Begge i 1. ægteskab M Ane Christina Areliesen Fælleds datter 6 M Peder Arelieasen Fælleds søn 5 M Hans Hendrick Areliesen Fælleds søn 2
Peder Nicolaj would be my guess, it's very likely that Peter Martin named his son born 1856 after his own father.
Was Giertrud Adams sister? 9de Rode 155 Hans Hendrich Meyer Huusfader 35 Begge i 1. ægteskab Skipper F Giertrud Areliesen Hans kone 38 Begge i 1. ægteskab M Adam Areliesen Hendes broder søn 8 M
Borgerbrev (licence to trade) issued to Jakoba Merelees Bergen Handel Ops. 8/10 1878 April 19 1875, also a relative?
Have you tried an ad in the userforum in Digitalarkivet? |
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Gerdt Riise
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Posted - 02/01/2005 : 16:43:52
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Where did you find the name Ariliesen - that must be a misunderstanding.Mereliasen is a name sometimes used. Yes, Giertrud is a sister of Adam. Adam Merelias has 6 children with Marie Wiggers: Adam b. 1792, Anna Christine b. 1794, Peder Nikolaj b. 1796, Hans henrich Mejer b. 1799, Giertrud Marie Mejer b. 1801 aand Jacob Christian b. 1803. Jacoba is the daughter of this Peter Martin who I am looking for the parents to. She is my grandfathers mother. |
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ninakarls
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 02/01/2005 : 20:51:49
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Areliesen is the name in the 1801 census-record I copied in my last posting -obviously misprinted (or misread)!
1865-census: 42b 9 Nykirkens Sogn Bergen Petter Martin Meerles Skipperborger g 42 m Kristiansund Susanne Meerles Hustru g 33 k Bergen Marte Meerles Datter u 15 k Bergen Jakobia Meerles Datter u 12 k Bergen Petter Meerles Søn u 9 m Bergen Jørgen Meerles Søn u 7 m Bergen Marie Meerles Datter u 5 k Bergen
1875-census: Nykirken Sogn Bergen 18-128a Susanne Merlees 2den Etage f Husmoder <forsørges> Af døtrene og Legater 1828 Marta Christine Merlees f ug Modehandler 1850 Nykirken Sogn Jakoba Agnete Merlees f ug Modehandler 1853 Nykirken Sogn Petter Nicholai Merlees m ug Styrmand 1856 Nykirken Sogn B Jørgen Lund Møller Merlees m ug Forsørges af Søstrene 1858 Nykirken Sogn
1885-census: Veiten 11 2den <etg.> Susanne Merlees k 1827 Bergen Enke Ophold hos Nr. 4 (Staying with Theodora Dahl) Martin Merlees m 1866 Bergen Verksarbeider
1891-census: Veiten 11 Susanne Merlees født Møller K SH E 27 ved Legatbidrag Abrahem Toskes Legat
2 daughters had married: Kristian Martin Riise Uk styrmand Nk 1847 Jakoba Agnete Merlus Jfr Nk 1854 Jan 06 1879 DK Herman Fredrik Meyer skibsfører NK 1839 Marta Kristine Merlees NK 1850 Jun 14 1880 DK
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Gerdt Riise
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Posted - 02/01/2005 : 22:16:58
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Thank you very much for all this! So there is still the father of Peter Martin to look for. He is the missing link. Do you know any way to look for him without travelling to Norway and search in the actual archives there? |
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ninakarls
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Norway
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 20:50:46
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As I suggested earlier you could make a posting in the user-forum of Digitalarkivet: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebDebatt.exe?slag=listtema&debatt=brukar I got help there as a kind person had made a lookup in the churchbook and found the baptism of my ggggrandfather Andreas Olaus Bækken in 1820 You can post in English or Swedish as well as in Norwegian.
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