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shelleyspage
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Posted - 18/10/2007 :  04:17:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looking for my great grandfather's information. He was born 11 may, 1864 in kongsberg, norway married to hilma thorson of sweden. He immigrated to us and died in wisconsin, america. can anybody help me please. i am at a dead end. i do know that he came over with a brother, but i do not know his name.

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Posted - 18/10/2007 :  10:43:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, could this be your Ole?

Ole Jacobsen Brende born in Sandsvær parish in a countryside named Grosvoldkroken about 6 Miles east of Kongsberg town Mai 11. 1864. Parents:
Jacob Christensen and Inger Marie Torstensdatter Brende#116

Ole Jacobsen was christened Sept. 9. in Hedenstad church

His father, widower Jacob Christensen emigtraed to USA 1882 with three children:
Torsten Jacobsen Brende born 1854 and his wife Signe Emilie Syversdatter born 1851 and their children Inga Johanne b. Jan. 22.1876, Janna Sofie b. March 26. 1878 and Johan Sigvart b. Jan. 6. 1881 (prewious page) and Jacobs other son Ole Jacobsen Brende (mentioned abowe) and his daughter Hanna Mathea Jacobsdatter Brende b. April 7. 1861 #30-31

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Posted - 18/10/2007 :  11:27:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jacob Christensen Brende was born Oct. 24. 1818, christened Dec. 26 in Hedenstad church.
Parents:
Christen Herbrandsen Hvam/Lindås and Inger Kristine Jørgensdatter Hvam #7

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Edited by - Kåarto on 18/10/2007 12:26:29
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Posted - 18/10/2007 :  11:44:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Inger Marie Torstensdatter Brende (Brenne) was born Oct. 17. 1818, christened in Hedenstad church Dec. 26 (the same day as Jacob Christensen).
Parents: Sergeant Torsten Hansen Brende and Marie Anundsdatter Brende, right page #7

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Edited by - Kåarto on 18/10/2007 12:15:50
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Posted - 18/10/2007 :  11:58:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sandsvær 1865:
Ole Jacobsen age 2, his parents and 5 siblings on Brende

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Posted - 24/10/2007 :  04:26:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by shelleyspage

looking for my great grandfather's information. He was born 11 may, 1864 in kongsberg, norway married to hilma thorson of sweden. He immigrated to us and died in wisconsin, america. can anybody help me please. i am at a dead end. i do know that he came over with a brother, but i do not know his name.


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Posted - 24/10/2007 :  04:30:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just called my father, who said my uncle confirmed the name brende, but that is all they had. I this for real??? I can't believe it! Are we related and do i still have relatives in Norway. I need to know more, how can we share information. I am so happy, i could cry!!! Please tell me you will share what you have on all these wonderful people or put me in the right direction
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Posted - 24/10/2007 :  14:23:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
sorry that my English let you understand we are distant cousins, but perhaps since I have 18 farms in Sandsvær in my family tree.

But you have for sure living relatives in this area, I´ll try to find out for you after taking this family back into the history of Kongsberg town founded 1624, this family might be an important part of this history.

Ingers parents:
Torsten Hansen Grosvold married Mari Anundsdatter Brende in Hedenstad church Mai 9. 1807, left page from bottom #2

Jacobs parents:
Christen Herbrandsen Lindaas and Inger Kristine Jørgensdatter Øen (Øyen) born on Hvam married Nov. 6. 1796, left page from top #3


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Edited by - Kåarto on 24/10/2007 20:50:46
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Posted - 24/10/2007 :  14:54:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sandsvær 1801
Farmer Christen Herbrandsen Linaas(Lindaas), his wife Inger-Kristine Jørgensdatter and one daughter, Siri age 3 on Linaas

Sandsvær 1801:
Thorsten Hansen age 17 on Grosvold Nordre(Northern) and his parents, farmer Hans Olsen and Ingeri Thorstensdatter and 4 siblings and one servant click here

Sandsvær 1801:
Mari Anundsdatter Brende age 15 on Brenne with her parents, farmer Anund Halvorsen age 51 and Marte Anudsdatter age 49 and 4 siblings (Brenne was two farms, her uncle Ole was farmer on the other farm Brenne) click here

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Edited by - Kåarto on 24/10/2007 14:56:45
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Posted - 24/10/2007 :  20:39:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Mari Anundsdatters father Anund (Annun) Halvorsen Brende was born April 19. ANNUN HALVOR BRENDE:1750.

Her mother Marthe Anundsdatter was born about 1753, she died on farm Nordre Hvam 1805.

Anund Halvorsen Brendes parents:
Halvor Olsen Brende, born on Grosvold, 1707-1780 and Ingeborg Olsdatter (Ristvedt) 1706-1791 married 1730 in Hedenstad church, right page:
Dom. XXI Trin: Halvor Olsen Brende og (and) Ingeborg Olsdatter , Sunday XXI after Trinity, 1730 #9

Halvors christening record, HALVOR OLE GROSVALD: 1707

Ingeborgs christening record, INGEBORG OLE RISTVEDT: 1706

Source: Sandsværs Historie VII (2001), aothor Olav Såtvedt.


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Edited by - Kåarto on 25/10/2007 11:53:17
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Posted - 25/10/2007 :  00:02:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brende means burn, likely the land was clearded by the use of fire, either man maid or after a forest fire.

Joke or fact?
The Saga tells about a hostile pack or group of men from the Oppland area (north of Oslo) and Sweden raiding Sandsvær.
At a farm named Hostvedt they met hard resistance from the locals and had to withdraw to Grosvoldkroken.
The farmer on Solli laughed and made a fool of the men for losing the battle, they got angry, chased him away and burned down all of the houses.

From that day Solli (Sunny hillside) was named Brende.

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Posted - 25/10/2007 :  10:29:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Emigration records on ship Rollo 1882 from Oslo.
The family emigrated to Grand Rapids, except Oles sister Hanna. She and Hans Kristiansen Brende, the person abowe Ole Jacobsen in the 1882 em. records from Sandsvær went to New York, see here

Also 8 people from Grovold emigrated with them on Rollo to Grand Rapids.

Halvor Olsen Brende born 1707 and his wife Ingeborg Olsdatter Ristvedt born 1706 split the farm about 1775 betwen the two sons Ole and Anund, Anund got Nordre (Northern) and Ole got Søndre (Southern) Brende.
In 1777 they set up a contract "Flerfødningskontrakt" that secured them free room and food for the rest of their life including the rigtht to use horse and wagon when they was going to the church.
Each son got 400 Rdl and each daughter got 200 Rdl, total 1400 rdl, a large sum of money.


Halvor Olsen Brende b. 1707 was son of :
Ole Olsen Brende 1678-1744 and Ragnild Halvorsdatter Såtvedt 1678-1732.

Ole Olsen Brende was son of:
Ole Hendriksen Brende 1664-1682 and Marthe Anundsdatter.

Ole Hendrikden Brende was son of:
Hendrik Kristoffersen Brende born about 1605, dead 1680 and Anne Bjørnsdatter Ristvedt, died 1673

Hendrik was son of Kristoffer Brende/Grosvold born about 1580 or earlier,he paid "Soldatskatt", tax to the army in 1627.

Henriks brother Jacob Grosvold and Helga Wærp was put out to pasture in 1623 as young children and one day in the mountainside looking after the cattle they find silver.
Their parents Kristoffer Brende and Arne Grosvold tried to sell the silver in Skien town, but was arrested by the sheriff and Arne Grosvold was forced to tell where the silver was found (The kings property). One year late the Kongsberg Silve Mines was established.

Jacob Grosvold was one on the first employed at the Kongsberg Silver Company and he settled down in Kongsberg.

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Edited by - Kåarto on 25/10/2007 19:40:04
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shelleyspage
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Posted - 25/10/2007 :  16:59:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto

Hi,
Emigration records on ship Rollo 1882 from Oslo.
The family emigrated to Grand Rapids, except Oles sister Hanna. She and Hans Kristiansen Brende, the person abowe Ole Jacobsen in the 1882 em. records from Sandsvær went to New York, see here

Also 8 people from Grovold emigrated with them on Rollo to Grand Rapids.

Halvor Olsen Brende born 1707 and his wife Ingeborg Olsdatter Ristvedt born 1706 split the farm about 1775 betwen the two sons Ole and Anund, Anund got Nordre (Northern) and Ole got Søndre (Southern) Brende.
In 1777 they set up a contract "Flerfødningskontrakt" that secured them free room and food for the rest of their life including the rigtht to use horse and wagon when they was going to the church.
Each son got 400 Rdl and each daughter got 200 Rdl, total 1400 rdl, a large sum of money.


Halvor Olsen Brende b. 1707 was son of :
Ole Olsen Brende 1678-1744 and Ragnild Halvorsdatter Såtvedt 1678-1732.

Ole Olsen Brende was son of:
Ole Hendriksen Brende 1664-1682 and Marthe Anundsdatter.

Ole Hendrikden Brende was son of:
Hendrik Kristoffersen Brende born about 1605, dead 1680 and Anne Bjørnsdatter Ristvedt, died 1673

Hendrik was son of Kristoffer Brende/Grosvold born about 1580 or earlier,he paid "Soldatskatt", tax to the army in 1727.

Henriks brother Jacob Grosvold and Helga Wærp was put out to pasture in 1623 as young children and one day in the mountainside looking after the cattle they find silver.
Their parents Kristoffer Brende and Arne Grosvold tried to sell the silver in Skien town, but was arrested by the sheriff and Arne Grosvold was forced to tell where the silver was found (The kings property). One year late the Kongsberg Silve Mines was established.

Jacob Grosvold was one on the first employed at the Kongsberg Silver Company and he settled down in Kongsberg.

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Posted - 25/10/2007 :  17:03:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
kaarto!

you are a wealth of information. Do you have any suggestions as to how I would get in touch with family in Norway. Looking for extended family, pictures of people and farms, whatever.

I really do appreciate the info that you have sent..you are a angel!

Michelle (Jacobson) Reagan, Great grand daughter to Ole Jacobsen (brende). Ole's son Edward is my grandfather. His name is Edward Orlando Jacobson born March 3, 1898 and died feb 8 1992. Edward's youngest son, Melvin Lyle is my father.

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Posted - 25/10/2007 :  20:41:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi and thank you.
I enjoy to find out most about the persons I am working with, how they lived etc.

It wouldn´t surprise me if the origin of the Jacob-Jacobsen name in your family is coming from the young shepard and the discoverer of the Silver, Jacob Grosvold.

There are photos of the farms in some local books i can send you private.

To find living relatives can be a puzzle even it must be at least "half of Sandsvær", but because the farms might have been sold several times its hard to follow daughters and sons.

Some of the church records are closed (1927) because of protection of any possible sensitve information of living people, "the 80 years rule", but it might work.

I bring up more persons to put into your familytree first:

Christen Herbrandsen Lindaas 1774-1831 was son of:
Herbrand Halsteinsen Lindaas born about 1720, died 1783, soldier in 1751 and his 2. wife Sigrid Eriksdatter Dalseie 1747-1792.
Sigrid marrien 2.time with Jon Olsen Garder in 1784.

Herbrand Halstensen was son of:
Halsten Torgersen Lehovd b. a. 1678 in Flesberg parish about 20 miles north of Kongsberg, he died 1737.
Halsten bought Lindaas for 250 Rdl (Riksdaler) in 1716. Three years earlier he married Torgunn Herbrandsdatter Evju (Sandsvær) b. a. 1682, died 1739

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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/10/2007 00:25:32
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Posted - 26/10/2007 :  00:11:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Christen Herbrandsen Lindaas wife, Inger Kristine Jørgensdatter Øyens parents:
Jørgen Halvorsen Øyen (the island) born on Hvam 1747, d. 1783, married 1768 with Ingeborg Kristoffersdatter b.a. 1751.

Jørgens Halvorsens parents:
Halvor Jørgensen 1726-1767, "Lensmann" Sheriff 1765-66, married 1746 with Kirsti Rasmusdatter Volden about 1714- 1800 (sister to Lensmann Borger Rasmusen Volden).
The probate regiser after Kirstis personal property was estimated to 101 Riksdaler.

Halvor Jørgensen was son of:
Jørgen Halvorsen Øyen 1696-1730 and Alhed Wilhelmsdatter Ryssel, most likely from Drammen town about 30 miles east of Kongsberg.

The accident July 1730:
Jørgen Øyen and his wife decided to ride to the church, to came across the river Låged they used a log raft. Sitting on the horses, one of them became restless, reared and jumped into the water, the two horses was tied together and both horses and riders fell into the river and wraped to the ropes they didnt manage to get loose and both Jørgen Øyen and his wife Alhed drowned.
The funeral was July 29. 1730

Jørgen Halvorsens parents:
Halvor Hansen Øyen b.a.1660, d. 1722, Sheriff, married 1691 with Ingeborg Jørgensdatter Bakke from Hem in Hof parish in vestfold county.

Halvor Hansen Øyens parents:
Hans Rolfsen b.a.1623 in Denmark, d. 1683, bought Øyen 1648, country side Sheriff from 1652 and Mari Helge-Helliksdatter Lie b.a.1620, d. 1692.

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Edited by - Kåarto on 28/10/2007 21:12:44
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