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nasagen
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 Posted - 24/02/2005 : 21:50:14
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I am looking for Sagen from Norway and have some information but it is written in norwegian. I have translation program but it doesn't translate it so I can understand it.
I'd like to know what area this is in Norway and if the places still exist. Also any emmigration information would be helpful.
Plass under Nestegard.
I. Sagi (Sagen) — Sagbakken — Mettestugu
Låg ved Bergsåne ovan for Håkonset (der Asle H. Grogard no har bygt) Det var berre ei tomt og ein åker ved husa, men til dette høyrde Kvednaøyne i Bergsån, og Dalsgjerda, største stykket, 3 mål.
Der bygde og budde:
Ca. 1860. Asle Andreessn Øvrestolen -- Sagen f 1804 d føre 1865, g 1. g 1836 m Gunhild Steingrimsdtr. Steingrimsplassen (under norde Bry) f 1798 d 29/2 1860, g 2. g 1860 m
(I) Gunhild Pålsdtr. Slåttun f 1825 d 1900 (dtr. til Dannebrogsmannen Pål Slåttun).
Ho til Am. 1881 som enkje.
Tolleg sikkert bygde Asle Øverstølen plassen Sagen då han skulle seg 2. gongen, altså ca. 1860; det ser nemleg ut til at han på den tid var på Nestegard-Bråset vestafor. Etter som Halvor J. Berg fortalde vart stugu i Sagen flytt dit frå nordre Villand. - kalla «Mette—stugu», etta Mette Hjermann — Villand. Ho vart seinare flytt til Skarset, heimstøl til Nestegard i Skarsetlien vesta Eggen. Stugu er til som stølsbu der enno. Asle var soneson til Gjermund Andresson Ådølshaugen (sjå Øvrestølen), han vart kalla «Gjermund-Asle». Smed.
Asle hadde ingen born med 1. kona.
Gunhild Pålsdtr.`s 3 born føre ekteskapet:
(II) 1. Pål Kristenson f 16/2 1848 d 1929 (i Am.), far: ungk. Kristen Jensson Rudsviken, Nes; Pål til Am. i 1870.
(III) 2. Ola Sjugurdson f3/3 1850 d 1887, far: gift mann Sjugurd Asleson Villandsmoen el. Glytthus. Ola til Am.. 1872.
3. Andres Steinson f 25/4 1856, far enkjemann Stein Andresson Randen (i Urundlien) f 1812. Andres (den kjende fjellmannen) g m Rangdi Eivindsdtr. Myrestølen f 1859, hadde Myrestølen. Deira son, Stein Andresson Myrestølen, kjøpte i 1928 del av Sagen og bygde der Sagtun (nedunder).
Borna til Asle og Gunhild:
(IV) 4. Arne Asleson f 8/3 1863, til Am. 1881 med mor si og systera Gunhild.
(V) 5, Gunhild Aslesdtr. f 26/4 1864, til Am. 1881.
Ved teljinga i 1865 var Gunhild enkje i Sagen: Krøter 4 geiter, sådde ikkje korn men sette 3/8 tn poteter. 1875: 3 geiter og 1 sau sådde då 1/8 tn bygg og sette 1/4 tn poteter.
Med reisepengar som sonen Pål sende heim, reiste Gunhild i 1881 til Am. med borna Arne og Gunhild.
Sagi vart nedlagt som plass. Sjugurd Halvorson Nestegard (far til Misjonærane), gav delen Dalsgjerda til Kinamisjonen. Denne delen vart sidan selt Ola Asgrimon Dalen, og høyrer framleis til Dalen.
Thank You
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hasto
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Trond
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Posted - 24/02/2005 : 22:15:38
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| Here are the record of them leaving Kristiania/Oslo on Oct. 8 1881 on the S/S Thingvalla. Gunhilds son Pål, paid the ticket from America. |
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Edited by - Trond on 24/02/2005 22:18:40 |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 24/02/2005 : 23:15:48
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Nancy - What is the 'narrative' information from?
I don't know WHO Gunhild Pålsdtr is OR if she is important to your family research... but I THINK it says she had three children before she she had two children with Asle - and it lists them under the heading "Gunhild Pålsdtr.`s 3 born føre ekteskapet:" It also gives minor information about each of the babies fathers, etc. One was a bachelor named Kristen Jensson of Rudsviken in Nes, the next was a married man named Sjugurd, and the third was a widower named Stein Andresson of Randen (in Urundlien).
Sagen would appear to have been a 'plass' under the probably older and larger farm known as Nestegard. I'd trust Harald as to the location within Buskerud, Norway.
Faced with such a narrative for myself - I would turn to my trusty Norwegian-English dictionary and go at it slowly and carefully - one word at a time. The narrative also seems to mention the 1865 census information which Harald gave you a link to (in the database form) and the emigration for when she emigrated from Norway in 1881 and Trond gave you a link to that information in database form.
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nasagen
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Posted - 25/02/2005 : 20:00:32
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You are all so great. Thank you all very much.
Gunhild Palsdatter was our great grandmother. The information I have in Norwegian was passed on from a cousin in Minnesota and looks like it was copied from a book of some kind, but I have no clue as to a name of it...........
I would really like to find more on our great grandfather,
Asle Andreessn Øvrestolen -- Sagen f 1804 d føre 1865
Is there anyway to find out where and how he lived and how and where he died????????
Thank you all again.
Nancy
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hasto
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Posted - 25/02/2005 : 23:02:26
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Your cousin has probably copied pages from Hol bygdebok I-IV (farm history book) "Folk og fortid i Hol" by Lars and Sigurd Reinton, issued 1999.
Asle Andresen from Øvrestølen was born on the small farm Øvrestølen 1804. He died before 1865. He 1836 married to Gunhild Steingrimsdatter from Steingrimsplassen, b. 1798. She died Feb 29 1860. He then (1860) married to Gunhild Pålsdatter Slåttun (1825-1900), daughter of the "Dannebrogmann" (= honoured by the king) Pål Slåttun.
Asle built the place Sagen when he married the second time, 1860. It looks like he before that time was at the place Nestegård-Bråset to the west. The house on Sagen was moved to there from north Villand. It was called the Mette-stugu (Mette's house) after the woman Mette Hjerman Villand. Later on the house was moved to Skarset.
Asle was grandson of Gjermund Andresen Ådølshaugen (read about him at pages about the farm Øvrestølen), Asle was called Gjermund-Asle. He was a blacksmith. He had no children with his first wife.
Asle's father Andres Gjermundsen (39) in 1801 census:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f10619&gardpostnr=129&personpostnr=2489&merk=2489#ovre
Familysearch LDS IGI :
ANDERS GJERMUNDSON
Death: 24 MAR 1828
Spouse: GUNHILD ASLESDTR Marriage: 1804
Map: http://search.kvasir.no/query?what=amap&streetname=H%E5konset&streetnumber=&city=HOVET
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nasagen
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Posted - 28/02/2005 : 04:10:52
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Originally posted by hasto
Your cousin has probably copied pages from Hol bygdebok I-IV (farm history book) "Folk og fortid i Hol" by Lars and Sigurd Reinton, issued 1999.
Asle Andresen from Øvrestølen was born on the small farm Øvrestølen 1804. He died before 1865. He 1836 married to Gunhild Steingrimsdatter from Steingrimsplassen, b. 1798. She died Feb 29 1860. He then (1860) married to Gunhild Pålsdatter Slåttun (1825-1900), daughter of the "Dannebrogmann" (= honoured by the king) Pål Slåttun.
Asle built the place Sagen when he married the second time, 1860. It looks like he before that time was at the place Nestegård-Bråset to the west. The house on Sagen was moved to there from north Villand. It was called the Mette-stugu (Mette's house) after the woman Mette Hjerman Villand. Later on the house was moved to Skarset.
Asle was grandson of Gjermund Andresen Ådølshaugen (read about him at pages about the farm Øvrestølen), Asle was called Gjermund-Asle. He was a blacksmith. He had no children with his first wife.
Asle's father Andres Gjermundsen (39) in 1801 census:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f10619&gardpostnr=129&personpostnr=2489&merk=2489#ovre
Familysearch LDS IGI :
ANDERS GJERMUNDSON
Death: 24 MAR 1828
Spouse: GUNHILD ASLESDTR Marriage: 1804
Map: http://search.kvasir.no/query?what=amap&streetname=H%E5konset&streetnumber=&city=HOVET
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nasagen
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Posted - 28/02/2005 : 04:13:01
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Thank you very much. You said,"Asle was grandson of Gjermund Andresen Ådølshaugen (read about him at pages about the farm Øvrestølen), " I am not to good at getting into these norwegian sites but will try to find that farm. Is there sites that I can read in english?
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hasto
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Posted - 28/02/2005 : 07:49:45
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I was only translating the Norwegian text you had, and trying to explain:
Asle var soneson til Gjermund Andresson Ådølshaugen (sjå Øvrestølen), = Asle was grandson of Gjermund Andresen Ådølshaugen (see Øvrestølen), = Asle was grandson of Gjermund Andresen Ådølshaugen (read about him at pages about the farm Øvrestølen)
The line is a referance to other pages in the bygdebok.
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nasagen
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Posted - 28/02/2005 : 19:09:00
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Thak you very much. all of you there are very helpful and I appreciate it.
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