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rdwahl
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Canada
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 Posted - 10/02/2006 : 07:57:02
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| Hello. I’m doing some family research and am trying to track down the following information on my great-grandfather who emigrated to the States or Canada from Namsos: immigration records (where he landed and when), birth certificate and the ship(s) he traveled on. What I know: His name is Oystein (Edward) Wahl. He was born on July 20, 1895 (or 1986) in Namsos. He left Namsos in either 1915, 1916 or 1917. Upon reaching North America he went to the Seattle area first but I don’t know if landed on the East Coast of Canada or the East Coast of the States. After spending some time in Seattle he went to Alaska and then went back to Norway for a brief spell before coming back over to North America in 1920, 1921, or 1922. He came across both times with his older brother Haldor Wahl. Any information would be greatly appreciated. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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rdwahl
Starting member
Canada
5 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2006 : 16:09:37
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Thank you!
I’ve been told he left from Namsos but I guess that doesn’t mean he was born there. I believe this is where the “Storval / Wahl” farm is. Have you heard of it?? I know Haldor was born in “Indre Naroy”, Namdalen. I’m sure not about the spelling of “Indre” however. I also read in a newspaper that Ed was born in “Inde Nory”. Is this the same place as Nærøy or is it some district/community of Nærøy?
Also, would you know about how long the journey would have taken (i.e. the estimated date of arrival to Everett)?
Thanks again
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2006 : 17:03:56
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Indre means inner - so your comment that he was born "Indre Naroy” should mean that he was born in inner Nærøy, Nord-Trøndelag. Study the geography and/or history of that particular area and that might be clarified.
The link I sent to the family in the 1900 Norwegian census showed them living on a 'Wahl" farm, spelled in that census as 'Val' - specifically on Val store (Val big) or what would probably be more common to reverse those words and call it Storval or Stor Val (Big Val) as you see in the names listed.
I wouldn't find it surprising that an American newspaper might mispell Nærøy as Nory - perhaps that is their best effort at a 'sounds like'.
You'll find information in articles on this website that will help you estimate how long a journey from Norway ports to American ports might have taken about 1915. How long it would take him to reach Washington would of course depend on which port of arrival he used on the North American continent and what method of transportation he might have used to reach Everett. I won't even try to guess about that. My own later arriving Norwegian emigrant ancestor - arrived through New York/Ellis Island (that is proven) and then it is assumed by the family that she took trains to her final destination in the midwest of the US in 1903. But other family members arriving in the US about 60 years earlier - did travel to the California goldfields by SHIP, before the Panama Canal was built and therefore travelling entirely around the southern tip of South America.
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 10/02/2006 : 19:59:15
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Fystein Wahl, 19, joiner, from Norway, arrived at the Port of New York from Bergen on March 13, 1915 on the SS Bergensfjord. Father Haldor Wahl. Going to Everett, Washington, contact was brother Haldor Wahl, Clinton, Washington.
www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/
This is a free website but you need to register. The passenger manifest covers two pages, he is #28.
There is information and lots of pictures of the Bergensfjord on this site. The trip at that time would have been 6-9 days and even in second and third class quite comfortable. |
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rdwahl
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 10/02/2006 : 20:53:20
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I'll definitely have a look at this site in more detail. It's a great resource.
Thank you both very much for the information and advice. This has made my day!
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e wahl
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Posted - 05/09/2006 : 04:44:24
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| I have first had knowlege of subject.If interested you cand send me a e mail or post reply to site |
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James E Heg
Member of honor
USA
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Posted - 06/09/2006 : 00:33:01
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| You might be interested to know that I went to High School woth two Wahl sisters in Everett, Washington. This was back in 1935-38. Both were good friends of mine. Osa Wahl died about 4 years ago. Her sister, Erna, lives in Washington, D.C. Her married name is Miller. For many years she served on the staff of Senator Henry M. Jackson (Another good Norwegian). I could try to find some info from the 1930 US Census |
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e wahl
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Posted - 06/09/2006 : 18:14:49
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| does anybody know or have info on a lucy wahl in the seatlle area.A cousin in norway was doinng a famialy tree years ago and mentioned a lucy wahl in seatle area. This was years ago.I am in vancouver area. |
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Sq Head
New on board
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Posted - 11/09/2007 : 05:06:49
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I have the following, which may (or may NOT) be the "older brother" of
Oystein (Edward) Wahl.
1. HALDOR1 WAHL was born July 15, 1893 in Nærøy, and died January 21, 1975. He married SIGRID VOLDEN, daughter of OLE VOLDEN and MARIE NAKLING. She was born October 22, 1903 in Kolvereid, and died May 01, 1965.
Children of HALDOR WAHL and SIGRID VOLDEN are:
2. i. HOWARD2 WAHL, b. December 25, 1927, Nærøy.
3. ii. ROALD MARTIN WAHL, b. December 25, 1927, Nærøy.
4. iii. STEINAR WAHL, b. August 12, 1929, Nærøy.
5. iv. ERLING WAHL, b. March 30, 1931, Nærøy.
6. v. SOLVEIG WAHL, b. February 06, 1945, Nærøy.
Generation No. 2
2. HOWARD2 WAHL (HALDOR1) was born December 25, 1927 in Nærøy. He married KARI WESTGÅRD July 05, 1952. She was born June 21, 1925 in Fosnes.
Children of HOWARD WAHL and KARI WESTGÅRD are:
7. i. SYNØVE ANITA3 WAHL, b. January 04, 1953.
ii. MARTIN WAHL, b. May 28, 1959.
iii. HALLVAR WAHL, b. June 14, 1960.
iv. KARIN WAHL, b. June 14, 1960.
v. REIDAR HALDOR WAHL, b. August 02, 1965.
3. ROALD MARTIN2 WAHL (HALDOR1) was born December 25, 1927 in Nærøy. He married INGER SALVIK. She was born January 16, 1948 in Kolvereid.
Children of ROALD WAHL and INGER SALVIK are:
i. FRANK EDDI3 WAHL, b. November 19, 1968.
ii. VERONICA WAHL, b. November 24, 1969.
iii. JANETTE WAHL, b. November 01, 1972.
4. STEINAR2 WAHL (HALDOR1) was born August 12, 1929 in Nærøy. He married KIRSTEN RAMFJORD July 16, 1955. She was born April 09, 1933 in Nærøy.
Children of STEINAR WAHL and KIRSTEN RAMFJORD are:
i. IVAR3 WAHL, b. January 09, 1956.
ii. BIRGIT WAHL, b. May 20, 1959.
iii. LIV KRISTIN WAHL, b. August 21, 1960.
5. ERLING2 WAHL (HALDOR1) was born March 30, 1931 in Nærøy. He married ELLA WESTGÅRD March 02, 1957. She was born October 28, 1938 in Kolvereid.
Children of ERLING WAHL and ELLA WESTGÅRD are:
8. i. HARRY3 WAHL, b. October 17, 1956.
ii. TERJE WAHL, b. December 18, 1960.
iii. AINA WAHL, b. October 13, 1972.
6. SOLVEIG2 WAHL (HALDOR1) was born February 06, 1945 in Nærøy. She married (1) BJØRN ARNE LAUGEN December 31, 1966. He was born April 29, 1940 in Nærøy, and died July 14, 1975. She married (2) TRYGVE EINDRIDE LAUGEN November 04, 1978. He was born April 24, 1942 in Nærøy.
Children of SOLVEIG WAHL and BJØRN LAUGEN are:
i. ROBERT3 LAUGEN, b. March 13, 1966.
ii. SIGRID HEIDI LAUGEN, b. October 10, 1968.
iii. ANETTE LAUGEN, b. April 21, 1975.
Generation No. 3
7. SYNØVE ANITA3 WAHL (HOWARD2, HALDOR1) was born January 04, 1953. She married TRONN ROSENVINGE January 30, 1971. He was born June 09, 1949 in Gravvik.
Children of SYNØVE WAHL and TRONN ROSENVINGE are:
i. MONICA4 ROSENVINGE, b. February 24, 1971.
ii. VIDAR ROSENVINGE, b. August 25, 1974.
iii. JOHANNES ROSENVINGE, b. January 04, 1977.
8. HARRY3 WAHL (ERLING2, HALDOR1) was born October 17, 1956. He married MONA ROBERTSEN 1975. She was born March 06, 1958 in Lyngseidet.
Children of HARRY WAHL and MONA ROBERTSEN are:
i. MICHAEL4 WAHL, b. March 08, 1975.
ii. BENNY WAHL, b. June 09, 1976.
I am looking for ANYTHING Bangsund; a family from the area in/around Namsos. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 11/09/2007 : 06:25:30
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If the birth/christening records for Øistein and Haldor are of interest, you find it as #48 here and #4 here.
The oldest brother Martin is #6 here and the sister Ragna is #7 here.
Their parents Haldor Ingvard Melum Iversen and Anna Matilde Johansdatter were married in 1891, see #2.
Haldor Ingvard was a fisherman staying with his father who was Iver Mikkelsen at Storval.
Anna Matildes father was Johan Jørgensen also living at Storval. |
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Edited by - eibache on 11/09/2007 06:53:40 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 11/09/2007 : 07:13:02
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Haldor Ingvard Melum was born in 1867, see #90. His parents were Iver Mikkelsen and Seriana Haldorsdatter living at the farm Storhval. Haldors siblings can be seen from the 1865 census, see here.
Iver was a widower when he married Seriane in 1854, see #28 their first child Margrete Catrine was an "uægte" child, born before they married.
Anna Mathilde was born in 1870, see #14
Her parents were Johan Daniel Andreassen, born in 1841 and Martha Lovise Olsdatter, born in 1836. They were married in 1864.
When the 1865 census was taken Johan Daniel was at the hospital in Trondheim, see here. They had a 2 year old daughter at the time. |
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marywahl
New on board
USA
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Posted - 19/05/2010 : 14:00:37
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Originally posted by rdwahl
Thank you!
I’ve been told he left from Namsos but I guess that doesn’t mean he was born there. I believe this is where the “Storval / Wahl” farm is. Have you heard of it?? I know Haldor was born in “Indre Naroy”, Namdalen. I’m sure not about the spelling of “Indre” however. I also read in a newspaper that Ed was born in “Inde Nory”. Is this the same place as Nærøy or is it some district/community of Nærøy?
Also, would you know about how long the journey would have taken (i.e. the estimated date of arrival to Everett)?
Thanks again
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marywahl
New on board
USA
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Posted - 19/05/2010 : 14:04:38
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| My father was Earl Jerome Wahl, the son Mikalsen Iver Wahl, b. 1886, Naeroy, Nord-Trongelag. My aunt was the late Lucy Wahl, wife of Robert Harold Wahl. Does anyone know the location of the Storval/Wahl farm? |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/05/2010 : 15:24:19
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Hi.
I have seen it spelled Wahl, Storeval and Val store.
The name indicate it that is must have been a fairly big farm.
Not sure if this is the right farm, Val in Nærøy is an secondary agricultural and nature school, see picture bottom here.
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marywahl
New on board
USA
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Posted - 19/05/2010 : 15:33:01
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| Thank you for the URL. I do not understand the Norwegian language --- is is common to have more than one spelling for the same word? --- Best, Mary Wahl Schmitt |
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