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vvassar
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 Posted - 13/08/2015 : 22:50:37
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| No luck on Familysearch.org either on my end, no Ludwig... turned up his and Maren's marriage documentation from Norway, but that's all. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/08/2015 : 23:24:08
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Herman Ludvig Mathisen confirmation #14:
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Onsøy, Ministerialbok nr. 4 (1861-1877), Konfirmerte 1866, side 306.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6221&idx_id=6221&uid=ny&idx_side=-318
Herman Ludvig Mathisen baptism #31 b. 2 May 1851:
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Onsøy, Ministerialbok nr. 3 (1841-1860), Fødte og døpte 1851, side 58.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5751&idx_id=5751&uid=ny&idx_side=-62
Gulbrand Olsen on Aale also one of Herman's faddernes.
As Gudbrand in the 1865 census but no sons Halvor or Martin, unless those are middle names, drat the luck!:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037999002292
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AntonH
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/08/2015 : 00:02:00
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Both Herman Ludvig, Severin and Klara were born on Aale-/Ålestrand (Eel Beach) on Onsøy
Aalestrand Link
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vvassar
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Posted - 14/08/2015 : 01:45:31
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Great information, thank you! I guess Onsoy technically no longer exists?
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Both Herman Ludvig, Severin and Klara were born on Aale-/Ålestrand (Eel Beach) on Onsøy
Aalestrand Link
Kåre
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vvassar
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AntonH
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vvassar
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/08/2015 : 02:17:42
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Very good, He is listed as a Sagarbeider, Transates as sawmill worker and Ludvig was listed as a Huseier, sagarbeider that is a house owner and a sawmill worker.
Ludvig is listed for farm 114a and Adam is listed at farm 114c |
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vvassar
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Posted - 14/08/2015 : 02:21:11
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Glad we solved that one!
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Very good, He is listed as a Sagarbeider, Transates as sawmill worker and Ludvig was listed as a Huseier, sagarbeider that is a house owner and a sawmill worker.
And they are both listed as residents of famr 114c
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vvassar
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Posted - 14/08/2015 : 03:07:42
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Going back to this post... what was the time needed for the ship passage from Amsterdam to NY? If Clara was 6 months upon arrival in NY, she must have been almost instantly removed from her mother. How do you travel with an infant that young, separated from the mother, at this time period, and have the infant survive??
My goodness.
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Going back to page one and looking at the Emigration Record posted by Jan Peter back in 2006, I think that this is the Ancestry.com record of her arrival.
Clara Mathline
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Clara Mathline
Arrival Date: 15 Oct 1883
Birth Date: abt 1883
Age: 6/12
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Destination: Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Schiedam
She is listed as travelling with Ludwig (last name is difficult to read it could be Mathissen, the transcriber read it as Mathline but it could be something else) age 30. The rest of the manifest just gives first names and a " mark indicating same as above. Rest of the list is
Adam age 40
Ludwig age 6
Name unreadable age 5
Severin age 3
Clara age 6 months
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/08/2015 : 03:28:36
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| Clara was born in 1880 and thus she was actually about three years old when she made the trip. I do not think we can trust the age data from the ship manifests. |
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vvassar
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Posted - 14/08/2015 : 03:30:03
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They really must have been processing a lot of people.
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Clara was born in 1880 and thus she was actually about three years old when she made the trip. I do not think we can trust the age data from the ship manifests.
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JaneC
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Posted - 14/08/2015 : 03:42:28
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The ship manifests seem to many times mangle the ages - take them as ballpark. If accurate, she's younger on ship than when she left Norway. Adam Iversen and HLM both must transfer ships. They are still listed next to each other on new ship manifest...so they seem like companions.
USA possible names for HLM - Herman, H.L., Lewis, Louis, Lou, Mattson/Mattsen, Madsen, double consonant variations, sen/son variations, Matthieson, Matherson, Materson, etc. Use wildcard * on Ancestry.com. One possibility is he died.
Eric Horton wrote that the father took the children to the state authorities. I wonder, was it Ludwig himself, or is that assumed? Wondered where did Halvor Gulbrandsen story come from - the state record, or private family story.... |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/08/2015 03:55:21 |
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Great Grandfather Severin Ludvigson origins?
