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nucmedtek
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 Posted - 29/04/2006 : 00:01:16
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Seeking information on Carl Thommas Berg who was born in Magnor in 1879. Emigrated to the US (year unknown) and settled in Minnesota. Married Ingeborg Bella Gysler, had 4 children, and, I believe, died in Saskatchewan,Canada.
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Raymond E. Gysler |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2006 : 01:02:06
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How sure are you of the birth year? The Canadian 1911 census has him born in 1873 (which could be wrong  ) but in the Digitalarkivet there is Karl Th. Berg age 21 emigrating in 1893 from Eidskog Click Here
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Edited by - Brining on 01/05/2006 03:06:01 |
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ninakarls
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Norway
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2006 : 16:23:44
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What about this one?
Carl Thomas Olsen
Christening: 07 APR 1872, Eidskogen, Hedmark, Norway
Parents: Ole Sigvard Berg & Eli Kjostelsdatter link
But Karl is living at home in census-1900...  link
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Edited by - jwiborg on 01/05/2006 16:32:47 |
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nucmedtek
Starting member
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Posted - 01/05/2006 : 21:07:03
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| Possibilities abound. His mother's name was ELI KJøstelsdatter STUMOEN. I will have to re-check my data on his emigration date. |
Raymond E. Gysler |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2006 : 21:53:26
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| How much other information do you have about this man that you are withholding?? You say you are seeking information - what exactly do you already have and EXACTLY what is the purpose of not sharing that? You actually knew his mother's name but decided that wasn't important??? |
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nucmedtek
Starting member
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Posted - 01/05/2006 : 21:58:20
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I just received that information on his mother's name this morning. All I had prior to that was her first name, Eli.
I think that I would have included it if I had known it was that important.
Mea Culpa ... Fogive me .... and thanks for all the awesome work you guys do. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/05/2006 : 23:33:22
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Well, then it looks like you have the right guy in this Carl Thomas Olsen, christening: 07 APR 1872.
Nationality says the US, so he is just home on a visit. Occupation reads clerk.
Here is his parents Ole Sigvard Berg & Eli Kjøstølsdatter in census-1865. Sigvard is from Strøms parish, Hedmark. (Strøm was divided into Sør-Odal & Nord-Odal in 1819). Eli is from Eidskog, Hedmark.
Ole Sigvards parents could be Berger Bergersen & Maren Rebeca Engebretsdr
Berger Bergersen has shortened his lastname to Bergh in census-1865, and moved to Christiania.
They have these children born in Nord-Odal:
Torkild Bergersen, Christening: 26 DEC 1819, Nord Odal, Hedmark.
Engebret Bergersen, Christening: 05 FEB 1822, Nord Odal, Hedmark
Caroline Beata Bergersen, Christening: 28 FEB 1824, Nord Odal, Hedmark
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nucmedtek
Starting member
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Posted - 02/05/2006 : 20:45:30
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| Thanks again for all your hard work Jan Peter. I really appreciate it very much. It seems after putting these links into the tree that Carl Thomas Berg was a 2nd cousin to his wife Ingeborg Bella Gysler as her grandmother was Maren Kjøstelsdatter Stumoen, sister of Eli Kjøstelsdatter. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/05/2006 : 21:32:58
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Hi,
could it be Stubmoen in Søndre Odalen parish (Sør-Odal, Hedmark)?
Kjøstel Hansen is the owner of Stubmoen in 1838, according to the landregister for that year.
Kjøstel Hansen could be Maren and Eli's father.
Hans K. Moe is running the farm in census-1865. Maybe his full name is Hans Kjøstelsen Moe, and a brother of Maren & Eli? 
Widow Anne Marie Nielsdatter is also living there, and could be Kjøstel Hansen's wife.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/05/2006 : 21:47:55
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Niels Kjostelsen, birth 08 NOV 1820, christening 26 NOV 1820, Sør Odal, Hedmark, Norway
Tore Kjostelsen, birth 25 NOV 1824, christening 28 NOV 1824, Sør Odal, Hedmark, Norway
Maren Kjostelsen, birth 31 JUL 1827, christening 12 AUG 1827, Sør Odal, Hedmark, Norway
Eli Kjostelsen, birth 04 AUG 1830, christening 15 AUG 1830, Sør Odal, Hedmark, Norway
Henrikke Kjostelsen, birth 03 JAN 1836, christening 10 JAN 1836, Sør Odal, Hedmark, Norway
Hans Kjostelsen, birth 19 AUG 1839, christening 01 SEP 1839, Sør Odal, Hedmark, Norway
Parents: Kjostel Hansen & Anne Maria Nielsdr
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nucmedtek
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 21:04:19
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| This is my family. As I understand it Hans Kjøstelsen died w/o heirs and the family farm (Stumoen) passed to the son of Abraham Gysler, deceased husb. of Maren K. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 06:58:09
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Looks like you're right about that:
1865: owner: Hans Kjøstelsen Moe.
1886: owner: Hans Kjøstelsen.
1900: owner: Hans Kjostelsen Stuemoen, wife Thora Knudsdatter Stuemoen b.1844.
1955: owner: Finn R. Gysler.
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nucmedtek
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 18:02:52
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Finn R. passed ownership to his son Finn-Chr. and he is the current owner of Stumoengard. I understand that he may pass ownership to his son Phillip soon.
I also found an old handwritten note (in Norse of course) that says a "gamle" Gysler was appointed as caretaker of Gripsholm Castle in Stockholm somewhere around 1834 (?).
That's about as well as I can translate it with my limited knowledge of Norse. I guess that may have well been Gulbrand who was the lensmann at the constitutional meeting of 1814. |
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jimber1
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 07/01/2008 : 06:20:48
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| Carl Thomas Berg was my paternal Grandfather.His grave and my grandmothers (Bella)is in Bromhead Saskatchewan. My father was the youngest of their four children.Did you attend the Gysler reunion in Estevan Saskatchewan in 1983? (Finn from Stumoengard was there)Finn is a good source of info. |
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nucmedtek
Starting member
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Posted - 06/03/2008 : 18:03:07
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| Jim, I just today found your response. My computer will not allow me to send an e-mail thru the forum so will send a response to Carl. Hopefully he will forward it to you. I didn't attend the Gysler reunion because I didn't hear about it. Strangely enough, I was in Bromhead that summer with my children and I did take them to Estevan. I wish I had known. |
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Carl Thommas Berg from Magnor 1879
