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mymainefamily
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 Posted - 20/08/2006 : 04:12:49
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Hi all,
I am new to this site..and searching passenger records for my John Lovendale/Lovendahl family .
I have a found a family that arrvied in Boston on the Cephalonia July 30, 1888.
This steamer left from Liverpool.
Christine Lovendal,mother
childen:
Helena, Amanda, Alma and my Grandfather, John.
My Grandfather was born in Norway, all the others were born in Sweden.
My Grandmother, Ida Christine Boman Lovendal was married to John Conrad Lovendal, I believe.
My family has always spelled this surname as Lovendale here in the U.S.
I would appreciate any help I might have!
Betsy in Maine
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 09:25:01
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Hi Betsy,
your family left from Kristiansand, Norway on June 1st, 1888. click here
Kristine Løvendal, married, carpenter, born 1859, residence Lillesand, destination Boston
Helene Løvendal, b. 1881
Alma Løvendal, b. 1883
Amanda Løvendal, b. 1885
Johan Løvendal, b. 1886
The occupation "Snedker" (carpenter) probably refer to to her husband.
Lillesand is just east for Kristiansand.
Jan Peter |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 17:04:57
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US census listings seem to disagree that Ida was married to John.
The 1920 US census lists John C. Lovendale as married to Grace M. (b. Maine) - their oldest daughter is Ida C., 8 yrs old, born Maine. Also in the household are another daughter and son and the mother of John C., Christina (60 yrs old born Sweden). Location Gorham, Cumberland Co., Maine.
1910 US census shows John C. Lovendale and his wife, Grace to be living in Dresden, Lincoln Co., Maine. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 17:18:12
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| The 1900 US census finds the family of Edwin Lovendal living in Dresden, Lincoln Co., Maine. Edwin and his wife Christine list themselves and their three oldest children in the household as born in Sweden, with two younger Maine born children. Edwin lists that he immigrated a year before his wife and children. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 17:30:43
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Edvin Løvendal, machinist, born 1854, residence Lillesand, emigrated on 25-mar-1887. Destination Portland.
Could he be Kristine Løvendal's husband?
Jan Peter
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 20:16:32
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Here's a couple of bits and pieces:
Maine Marriage Index on Ancestry.com
John C. Lovendale married Mary G. Getchell on November 6, 1909, both residents of Dresden, Maine.
Herman C. Lovendale married Marion G. Clark on June 29, 1945, both residents of Portland, Maine.
World War I Draft registration:
John Lovendale, born April 6, 1887 in Norway registered for the draft on June 15, 1917 in Boston, MA.
Fireman for a steamboat company, tall, slender, blue eyes, black hair, right flat foot. Has wife and children.
John Victor Lovendale, born September 22, 1893 in Harkosand Sweden, registered for the draft on on the same day as John by the same person, photographer, not working, disabled right arm, has wife, medium height, slender, light hair. These records are very hard to read.
Social security death index:
John Lovendale born April 6, 1888, died October 1964, applied for card in Maine before 1954, no place of residence given.
I could not find them in any census', were they listed under different spellings?
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 20:39:38
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Kristine and family arrived at the Port of Boston on July 30, 1888 aboard the SS Cephalonia. From Norway, lower steerage, purpose of visit - Prolonged Sojourn. They would have been processed for immigration aboard ship.
I do not think the journey took two months, they registered on June 1 and arrived on July 30, probably one of the children got ill and they delayed the trip. A steamship voyage averaged 7-9 days.
Using the information on this site, Edvin contracted with the Allan Line which had several destinations in America and Canada. In the index of departures, these are two departures for Hull, England on March 30, 1887 and March 31, 1887, final destination Hallifax, Canada.
The Canadian passenger lists can be rented at a local Family History Center or on inter-library loan, you know the exact dates so finding him shouldn't take much time if he traveled at this time.
None of them went directly from Norway to the U.S., if you are not familiar with the "Hull" journey, there are several good articles on this site about it.
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mymainefamily
Starting member
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 23:35:57
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Hi, Yes that is correct. Ida Christine Boman married John Conrad Lovendale.
When thney moved to Maine, John married Mary Grace Lovendale, my Grandmother.
They had Ida Christine,Marion (my Mom) Herbert, Herman and Arlene Virginia.
Some of John's sisters lived in Maine, Alma married Roy Groman and they moved to Ma. then N.Y.
Helena, we hae been told died on board ship.
Betsy in Maine
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mymainefamily
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 23:43:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Jo Anne Sadler
Here's a couple of bits and pieces:
Maine Marriage Index on Ancestry.com
John C. Lovendale married Mary G. Getchell on November 6, 1909, both residents of Dresden, Maine.
Herman C. Lovendale married Marion G. Clark on June 29, 1945, both residents of Portland, Maine.
World War I Draft registration:
John Lovendale, born April 6, 1887 in Norway registered for the draft on June 15, 1917 in Boston, MA.
Fireman for a steamboat company, tall, slender, blue eyes, black hair, right flat foot. Has wife and children.
John Victor Lovendale, born September 22, 1893 in Harkosand Sweden, registered for the draft on on the same day as John by the same person, photographer, not working, disabled right arm, has wife, medium height, slender, light hair. These records are very hard to read.
Social security death index:
John Lovendale born April 6, 1888, died October 1964, applied for card in Maine before 1954, no place of residence given.
I could not find them in any census', were they listed under different spellings?
Hi, John born 1888 is my Grandfather. I have his naturalization papers with his photo. Actually he used to visit us often and I have many photos of him.
He lived in an elderly home in Auburn Maine to the end of his life.
My Grandparents were divoorced when my mom was just 17.
Mary Grace Getchell Lovendale remarried Grandpa never did.
My Uncle Herman married Marion Clark (Lovendale).
Thanks!
Betsy in Maine
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mymainefamily
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 23:47:22
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Originally posted by Jo Anne Sadler
Kristine and family arrived at the Port of Boston on July 30, 1888 aboard the SS Cephalonia. From Norway, lower steerage, purpose of visit - Prolonged Sojourn. They would have been processed for immigration aboard ship.
I do not think the journey took two months, they registered on June 1 and arrived on July 30, probably one of the children got ill and they delayed the trip. A steamship voyage averaged 7-9 days.
Using the information on this site, Edvin contracted with the Allan Line which had several destinations in America and Canada. In the index of departures, these are two departures for Hull, England on March 30, 1887 and March 31, 1887, final destination Hallifax, Canada.
The Canadian passenger lists can be rented at a local Family History Center or on inter-library loan, you know the exact dates so finding him shouldn't take much time if he traveled at this time.
None of them went directly from Norway to the U.S., if you are not familiar with the "Hull" journey, there are several good articles on this site about it.
I have been told that my Grt. Grand Father was John Conrad/Conrad Lovendale.
I have never heard of Edvin???
Also, we hav e been told that Helena died on board ship...There was another daughter, Olga that is not listed on the passenger list.
Any suggestions?
Betsy in Maine
I appreciater all your help!!!
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mymainefamily
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 23:52:35
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[quote]Originally posted by jwiborg
Edvin Løvendal, machinist, born 1854, residence Lillesand, emigrated on 25-mar-1887. Destination Portland.
Could he be Kristine Løvendal's husband?
Jan Peter
Hi, I do believe that my Grt. Grandfather was John Conrad/Conrad Lovendale.
There is also a Blacksmith surname involved. My cousin reminded mwe of this yesterday!
Betsy in Maine |
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mymainefamily
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Posted - 20/08/2006 : 23:55:16
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quote:
Originally posted by mymainefamily
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Originally posted by Jo Anne Sadler
Here's a couple of bits and pieces:
Maine Marriage Index on Ancestry.com
John C. Lovendale married Mary G. Getchell on November 6, 1909, both residents of Dresden, Maine.
Herman C. Lovendale married Marion G. Clark on June 29, 1945, both residents of Portland, Maine.
World War I Draft registration:
John Lovendale, born April 6, 1887 in Norway registered for the draft on June 15, 1917 in Boston, MA.
Fireman for a steamboat company, tall, slender, blue eyes, black hair, right flat foot. Has wife and children.
John Victor Lovendale, born September 22, 1893 in Harkosand Sweden, registered for the draft on on the same day as John by the same person, photographer, not working, disabled right arm, has wife, medium height, slender, light hair. These records are very hard to read.
Social security death index:
John Lovendale born April 6, 1888, died October 1964, applied for card in Maine before 1954, no place of residence given.
I could not find them in any census', were they listed under different spellings?
Hi, John born 1888 is my Grandfather. I have his naturalization papers with his photo. Actually he used to visit us often and I have many photos of him.
He lived in an elderly home in Auburn Maine to the end of his life.
My Grandparents were divoorced when my mom was just 17.
Mary Grace Getchell Lovendale remarried Grandpa never did.
My Uncle Herman married Marion Clark (Lovendale).
I have no idea who John Victor Lovendale is, but I have also seen this .
Thanks!
Betsy in Maine
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/08/2006 : 00:32:30
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| Betsy - You need to get copies of those US census pages that I quoted early this morning. Be sure and glean every tiny detail of information you can out of them. 'Edvin' was John's father and husband of Christine. There was mention of a son or daughter with a name something like Olga in one of those censuses. Look also look for vital records for at least the Maine counties of Cumberland and Lincoln. |
Edited by - Hopkins on 21/08/2006 00:34:52 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/08/2006 : 00:45:15
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There are a couple of 'family trees' posted online to RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project which have various members of this Lovendale family mixed up. Be very careful when taking information from such sources - and verify that it is accurate by comparing to records of the time period before 'taking their word for it'.
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/08/2006 : 02:20:39
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Helena is indicated as being well and alive when arriving in Boston, she may have died soon after arrival but she did not die aboard the ship. This is probably just one of many old family legends that do not pan out to be true. People were not allowed on board unless they were healthy as the Captain was responsible for them and would have to bring them back if they were refused entry into the United States. The voyage was only a few days, the early two month sailing ship voyages had many deaths but not the later ones.
You should obtain a copy of the passenger list for yourself, as Hopkins said, you need to verify all the information yourself, especially not relying on family trees posted all over the Internet. |
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mymainefamily
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 16:49:55
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Hi,
I have not received this information regarding Helena's death from the Internet, but rather from my Grandfather himself.
I can't understand why Ida is not listed as a passenger with her Mother and siblings. She was a passenger and not born in the U.S.
Christine's husband was Johan or Konrad Johan. He is not listed as passenger either??
Much thaks!!
Betsy
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