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chlabceb
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 31/10/2006 : 17:10:21
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I have found most of one family of my ancestors on the Kristiania emigration lists but I cannot find the father. I believe he came to America earlier and then sent for his family. I found on 13 July 1883 Emma Kristiansen (or Christiansen) left with her 6 children and arrived in New York on 30 July 1883. It is possible that two others who are listed in the same family with Emma on the list are her mother Elisabeth Hansen and her sister Jenny Hansen. In the 1865 Norwegian census, I found Emma, her husband Gunerius and their newborn son Hans listed in the domicile of Elisabet Hansen in Bragernaes, Drammen. Listed with Elisabet are daughters Antonia and Katinka, but no Jenny. The ages for Antonia and Jenny, when compared from the separate listings appear to be the same year. I have not had much luck finding them on the 1875 census, as it appears that Drammen is not yet indexed. I have attempted to search back up to a couple of years on the emigration lists prior to Emma et al. departure, but have not been able to truly discover when Gunerius may have sailed. How long prior to his family could Gunerius have left? Was it common for the head of the household to leave for long periods of time before settling and then sending for his family? Are there any other recordings of Norwegian citizens emigrations other than these lists? Or is it possible he could be listed on a list from another area of Norway? The entire Christensen family ended up settling in Cheyenne, Wyoming with some of the daughters eventually marrying and winding up in Denver, Colorado. Any help in where to look for Gunerius would be appreciated. |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 31/10/2006 : 19:18:02
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Drammen is in Buskerud flyke. The Bragernaes records have been extensively posted online, it would include birth, marriage, death, the moving out records.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_fylke=6&idx_kilde=Alle&idx_periode=&idx_textsearch=&js=j
You can rent the 1875 census microfilm at a local Family History Center.
Here they are in the 1865 census:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=20&filnamn=f60602&gardpostnr=300&personpostnr=3965&merk=3965#ovre
Gunerius is listed as a contorbetjent - could not figure out what that means. Office worker, maybe?
There is a Gunerius Christensen, 37, agent, 2nd class, listed as arriving at the Port of New York aboard the Geiser from Copenhagen and Christiania on February 15, 1883. As he was second class, he would have been processed for immigration aboard ship, not on Castle Garden. In the index, his name is garbled and he is listed as a female but he is clearly indicated as a mail on the passenger list.
There is alot of information and pictures of the Geiser on this site.
I could not find the listing for Emma and her family, what ship did she travel on?
There are lists for other ports, if he was an agent, maybe a shipping agent or had a job that he traveled around.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebMeta.exe?slag=vismeny&fylkenr=&knr=&aar=&dagens=&katnr=5&alle=true
It was very common for the husband to come first, check things out, get a job/money and then send for the family.
The 1900/1910/1930 census would show immigration year.
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 31/10/2006 : 19:37:02
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Here is Han's baptism record, born November 24, 1865, baptized January 28, 1866:
click here |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 31/10/2006 : 19:44:02
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Emma w/children: link |
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chlabceb
Starting member
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 31/10/2006 : 20:01:39
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Thank you for the link to the Bragernes registers. I will have to go through them and see what I can find.
Emma and children ( Hans, Anthony, Emma, Christine, Jenny and Adele) originally left Norway on 13 July 1883 aboard the SS Angelo which then sailed to England and they then boarded the SS Germanic which sailed from Liverpool to New York, arriving 28 July 1883. I found all of the children's names, except my great grandmother,Adele, is very difficult to read so she had been indexed as Mark instead!
Gunerius died in 1908 and I cannot find him (or my great grandparents Joel and Adele Stettler) on the 1900 census. Emma died in 1899. Their oldest son, Hans, died in 1890.
I found their son Anthony on the 1910, 1920 and 1930 census years and he has an immigration year of between 1883 and 1885.
I did find Gunerius on the 15 Feb 1883 passenger list. I kind of wondered what "agent" meant in the occupation column. Listed right after him is a Nils Christiansen whose occupation is "saylor" so I am wondering if he could be a brother. I know Christiansen is a pretty common name in Norway so it could just be coincidence that he is also on the ship. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 00:24:22
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1920 US census Adele is listed with no date of immigration - just unknown'. (Peoria, IL) Some confusion? about Norway and Swedish on that listing. 1910 US census 'Adela' is listed with 1889 as date of immigration. (Montgomery Co., OH) Couple only married for 8 yrs as of 1910.
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