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jkmartin
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 09/01/2007 : 18:36:33
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Very interesting information. I am curious if anyone is able to locate further Haugedal info. I am tracing Thomas Julick Haughedal, born 27 Jan 1823 in Norway. Death notice indicates parents Julick and Alice Houghedal, and spouse Ester Johnson. Died in Otsego Twp, Columbia County, Wisconsin, on 18 Sep 1906.
Searches on Google and Ancestry.com have revealed nothing about family in Norway or immigration info. Any assistance would be most appreciated! |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2007 : 19:09:56
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I was unable to find anyone in the 1900 US census with the surname Haughedal. I also searched the state of Wisconsin for a Norway born Thomas of about that age and was unable to find him. When did he arrive in the US and where did he live before 1906? |
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jkmartin
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 00:48:31
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I don't know when Thomas came to U.S., but to the best of my knowledge he lived in Norway his entire life prior to emigration. I haven't been able to research further because I am unable to read Norwegian at this point. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2007 : 01:51:31
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There are Haugedal/Hougedal farms in at least 5 different municipalities in Norway, so Thomas Julick Haughedal are not necessarily related to the family originally discussed in this topic.
Haugedal/Hougedal can be found in these parish'es in census 1865: Gjerpen, Telemark Saude, Telemark Søndeled, Aust-Agder (this family) Søndre Undal (Sør Audnedal), Vest-Agder Melhus, Sør-Trøndelag .....
Julick is not a norwegian name, but could it be Gullik? And could it be his "originally" last name, before his farm name was added? I've been looking around for a "Thomas Gulliksen" born ab 1825, but without any luck...
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 10/01/2007 01:53:44 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2007 : 05:00:58
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Justin - This really should have been a new message thread - tagging on the end of an unrelated series is adding to the difficulty.
Where in the US did Thomas live before 1906? Where was he for the 1900 US census? Who was he with in 1900? I'm trying to find him in the 1900 US census as a first step. I want to see names of family members, year of immigration, possible other spellings of his name, etc.
Check in the LINKS (see above) on this website. You'll find lists of translated words that will begin to help and excellent 'how-to' articles about use of Norwegian resources. |
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jkmartin
Starting member
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Posted - 11/01/2007 : 17:41:58
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Thanks for your help and apologies for misuse. I'm new to the message board world. I have opened a new topic. |
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Admin
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Norway
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Posted - 11/01/2007 : 18:06:22
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Topic has been split to a new topic |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 21:53:16
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quote: Originally posted by jkmartin
Thank you to Jan Peter for the assistance in searching. I have located Thomas Gulakson in the 1880 census living in Otsego Twp, Columbia County, Wisconsin, which is where he lived until his death.
Spouse is Esther Gulakson. Children are listed, and a Gunlek Gulakson, aged 83, is listed as Grandfather to head of household.
This has pointed me in a good direction. Thanks again!
Now we're getting closer! Very good information from the 1880 US census! Household, Otsego, Columbia, Wisconsin: Thomas GULAKSON Self M Male W 57 NORWAY Farmer NORWAY NORWAY Esther GULAKSON Wife M Female W 54 NORWAY Keeping House NORWAY NORWAY Esther GULAKSON Dau S Female W 22 WI At Home NORWAY NORWAY Elsa GULAKSON Dau S Female W 20 WI At Home NORWAY NORWAY Maria GULAKSON Dau S Female W 18 WI At Home NORWAY NORWAY John GULAKSON Son S Male W 14 WI At Home NORWAY NORWAY Nelly GULAKSON Dau S Female W 12 WI At School NORWAY NORWAY Chrestine GULAKSON Dau S Female W 9 WI At School NORWAY NORWAY Halvor GULAKSON Son S Male W 6 WI At Home NORWAY NORWAY Gunleck GULAKSON GFather Male W 83 NORWAY At Home NORWAY NORWAY
Gunleck GULAKSON [Gunlik Gulliksen] looks to be born ca 1798. There's no exact match in the Norwegian 1801 census, but his name indicates that he might be from Telemark county...
Maybe he is from Hjartdal, Telemark?
Jan Peter
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Edited by - jwiborg on 11/01/2007 21:58:30 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 22:15:19
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OR.... could it be this guy?
Torsten Gundliksen Birth: 27 Jan 1823, Sauherad, Telemark, Norway Christening: 02 Feb 1823 Parents: Gunlik Tostensen & Aasil Hansdr
There are several Haugedal farms in Sauherad, Telemark, but I'be not been able to connect Gunlik Tostensen to one of them.
The closest match to Torsten Gundliksen's father is a Gunlik Tostensen (1), living on the Sunsvallen farm in Sauherad (Saude), Telemark county in census 1801. Parents Tosten Halvorsen & Gunnil Gunlichsdtr.
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 11/01/2007 23:24:20 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 22:45:46
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Passenger list 1850 - ship Colon Captain Departure Arrival Source C. Hassel Kragerø June 15 New York Aug. 12 #90 Gullik Haugedahl 53 m Cabin #91 Asild Haugedahl* 56 f Cabin #92 Asten Haugedahl* 28 m Cabin #93 Anne Haugedahl* 19 f Cabin
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=383
Could Asten Haugedahl be Torsten Gundliksen = Thomas Julick Haughedal?
Gundlek Tostensen (25) & Aasil Hansdr (29) Marriage: 28 Apr 1822
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 23:13:52
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To summarize, I think this is a very good match for your Thomas Julick Haughedal", even though not everyting fits directly in to the picture.
1) His birthdate matches exactly.
2) Aasild could very well be americanized to Alice.
3) Gunleck Gulakson from the 1880 census must be Thomas' father, and gfather to the children listed. His birthyear is ca. 1798. Gunlik Tostensen from Sauherad, Telemark is christened 29 Jul 1798.
4) The Haugedahl family who emigrated to America in 1850 on the ship colon, looks to be the family from Sauherad, according to their first names and age. Gunlik Tostensen is born on the Sunsvallen farm, but if his not the oldest son in the house, he did not automatically take over that farm. Then he had to move out, and maybe he bought Haugedal farm? Or he could have sold the Sunsvallen farm and moved to the Haugedal farm, which both are located in Sauherad parish. It could even be the same farm, ie. they could have changed the name of the farm if their household was separated from a main farm or something.
5) Other names are also re-used, like Halvor. Census 1880 shows a son named Halvor. Gunlik Tostensen's paternal grandfather was also named Halvor, according to census 1801.
The only facts that does not fit in 100%, are that of his father's last name of Tostensen, and that his firstname is spelled Gullik in the emigration.
But I've seen bigger differences before!
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 11/01/2007 23:31:53 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 23:45:44
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The final proof?
Emigration from Sauherad parish, Telemark county, 1850, p 397:
#77, Gulleik Torstensen Haugedal, born 29-jul-1798, destination America wife Aasild Hansdatter, born 1794 child Torsten Gulleiksen, born 27-jan-1823 child Anne Gulleiksdatter, born 14-sep-1831
Source: Telemark fylke, Sauherad, Ministerialbok nr. I 6 (1827-1850), Inn- og utflyttede 1850, side 397
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jkmartin
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 13/01/2007 : 18:12:14
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Thank you very much for your help! This is amazing information that I wouldn't have been able to find on my own. Torsten Gulleikson is the Great Grandfather of my maternal Grandfather. Very exciting! |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2007 : 22:20:48
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Yes, this was a hard nut to crack, but there is no doubt this is the right family! Here is Thomas Golucson (37), in census 1860 for Otsego, Columbia, Wisconsin.
Together with him in the household are: Esther Golucson (30) Goluck Golucson (3) Esther Golucson (2) Ann Golucson (1) Goluck Thompson (63)
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/01/2007 : 23:22:56
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My first try in this fora. Church record Sauherad 1827-1850, Confirm Oct. 14. 1838, nr 36: Tosten Gullichsen (Gulliksen) Haugedal born 27/1-1823 (January 27). Parents: Gullich(Gullik) Torstensen og Aashild Hansdr. Haugevik. Haukedalen lies next to the South-Western part of Lake Heddal:
http.//www.arkivverket.no/URN:kn_read?urnread_imagesize=full&info=ingen&hode=nei&show=186&uid=164623%js=j
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