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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 06/10/2013 : 13:16:27
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The marriage was in the transcribed alphabetical list at Ancestry. I thought it was just interesting the same uncommon name, also in Kent, near the same time as Christian, but it may or may not be significant. I did look at the list and it was exactly as indexed. I didn't mail to myself since there was no further info in it --such as ages, etc.
Also there were 4 references to a "Donald Tromm" in the directories section but when I looked at the page links I was unable to find Donald Tromm, so seemed to be an OCR read problem, maybe. One place was in Bedfordshire from 1849. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 06/10/2013 : 20:43:24
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Originally posted by jkmarler
The marriage was in the transcribed alphabetical list at Ancestry. I thought it was just interesting the same uncommon name, also in Kent, near the same time as Christian, but it may or may not be significant. I did look at the list and it was exactly as indexed. I didn't mail to myself since there was no further info in it --such as ages, etc.
Also there were 4 references to a "Donald Tromm" in the directories section but when I looked at the page links I was unable to find Donald Tromm, so seemed to be an OCR read problem, maybe. One place was in Bedfordshire from 1849.
Good evening David, Jackie and all. When arriving home this evening this e-mail below awaited. Albeit 'negative' at this stage...who knows..?
Thank-you for suggesting the site David. As yet nothing from Ramsgate, but, as you explained and I can remember, the fire which destroyed Ramsgate Library possibly destroyed many archives too. Fingers still crossed..!
Hello
I have looked at some of our records and newspaper archives and have not had any success finding more information on your ancestor and his death. I will pass the enquiry onto our Local and Family history volunteer who is very experienced at this type of enquiry. Thank you for your patience.
Best wishes,
Jason
Jason Brown
Customer Support Assistant
Margate Library
Thanet Gateway Plus
Margate
Cecil Street CT9 1RE
0300 333 6022
Fax:01843 293015
www.kent.gov.uk/libs
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From: Derek Lawburary [mailto:jungfigh@onvol.net]
Sent: 30 September 2013 10:49
To: Library, Margate - CC CS
Cc: jungfigh@onvol.net
Subject: Christian Thompson
Good morning,
I wonder could you possibly help on this quest..?
My Maternal Grandfather s records when he served in The RFA in WW1 were destroyed. Most avenues to establish his lineage have been exhausted. Could you possibly assist..?
I am, yours faithfully,
Derek Lawbuary. Malta. G.C.
Below are the details of my maternal Grandfathers death.
It is believed he travelled to UK (Ramsgate, Kent) at the turn of the 19th century from an unknown Norwegian location. It is also known that he fought on the Western Front in the Great War as a gunner in the Royal Artillery.
I have been told that Tromm translates into English, or was changed to Thompson. There is also a memorial plaque dedicated to 'Campanula' in the Seaman's Church, Royal Harbour Ramsgate. Interestingly my Grandfather's name is shewn : Christine Thompson.
Any information would be sincerely appreciated in helping me find my Norwegian relatives.
Name: THOMPSON, CHRISTAIN
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Engineer
Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine
Unit Text: Steam Trawler "Campanula" (Ramsgate)
Age: 37
Date of Death: 28/01/1920
Additional information: Husband of Maude Oliva Thompson (nee Fast), of 6, Florence Terrace, Cannonbury Rd., Ramsgate. Born in Norway.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL Below are the details of my maternal Grandfathers death.
It is believed he travelled to UK (Ramsgate, Kent) at the turn of the 19th century from an unknown Norwegian location. It is also known that he fought on the Western Front in the Great War as a gunner in the Royal Artillery.
I have been told that Tromm translates into English, or was changed to Thompson. There is also a memorial plaque dedicated to 'Campanula' in the Seaman's Church, Royal Harbour Ramsgate. Interestingly my Grandfather's name is shewn : Christine Thompson.
Any information would be sincerely appreciated in helping me find my Norwegian relatives.
Name: THOMPSON, CHRISTAIN
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Engineer
Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine
Unit Text: Steam Trawler "Campanula" (Ramsgate)
Age: 37
Date of Death: 28/01/1920
Additional information: Husband of Maude Oliva Thompson (nee Fast), of 6, Florence Terrace, Cannonbury Rd., Ramsgate. Born in Norway.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 10/10/2013 : 11:02:28
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Good morning friends.
Although I have been AWOL from the topic for a few days, I haven't been malingering..! Many telephone calls may result in new feedback. I will post when I receive.
The Cert's from England promised for the 7th October have still not arrived..! |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2013 : 10:57:35
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A lot of this report is already known: The interesting point is the 3 reports Terry found: Watch this space.
Hi Derek
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> Please find the following info on Campanula also I have found newspaper
> reports giving details of funds raised by fishing boats and the people of
> Ramsgate to
> help the relatives of men lost. Memorial services were carried out at St.
> George's Church, Harbour Mission Church and the Sailors Rest. A majority
> of the
> bereaved relatives attended the Harbour Mission Church along with crews
> from other Ramsgate fishing vessels.
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> I found 3 reports . They will be forwarded
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> Name;- Campanula.
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> First Registered at Ramsgate;- December 1919.
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> Formerly Registered at Lowestoft.
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> Gross tonnage;- 95 tons.
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> Nett tonnage;- 40 tons.
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> Length;- 86.2 feet.
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> Beam;- 18.6 feet.
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> Depth;- 9.1 feet.
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> Built;- Yarmouth 1913.
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> Construction;- Steel
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> Date lost;- 4th February,1920.
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> Owners;- Isle of Thanet Steam Trawling Co,Ltd.
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> Last known position;- 10 miles off the Galloper.
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> Date re last position;- 4th February,1920.
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> Crew List CAMPANULA.
> ----------------------------
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> Skipper;- George Kennard. Age 25yrs. Son of Mr.G. and Mrs A.Kennard of
> 4.Norman's Place,West Malling,Kent.
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> Mate;- Frederick Samuel Halsey. Age 29yrs.Son of Samuel Thomas and Lydia
> Halsey;husband of Agnes Alicia Elizabeth Halsey (nee MacDougal), of
> 8.Plains of
> Waterloo, Ramsgate, Kent.
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> First Engineer;- William John Owen. Age 43yrs. Son of William John and
> Mary Ann Owen; husband of Alice Edith Owen (nee Lawrence) of 61 Dane Road,
> Margate, Kent.
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> Second Engineer;- Christian Thompson. Age 37yrs. (born 1883). Husband of
> Maude Oliva Thompson (nee Fast) of 6 Florence Terrace, Cannonbury Road,
> Ramsgate, Kent. Born in Norway.
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> Third Hand;- John Saunders. Age 31yrs. Son of the late Mr and Mrs
> Saunders; husband of Ellen Rose Saunders (nee Hubbard) of 49 Finsbury
> Road, Ramsgate.
> Born;- Croydon, Surrey.
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> Deck Hand;- Alfred Roland Cook West. Age;- 28yrs. Son of Alfred and
> Harriet Amelia West of 3 Cottage Road, Ramsgate, Kent.
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> Deck Hand;- Robert Bailey Fast. Age;- 25yrs. Son of Mary Ann Fast of 3
> Dove Cottages, King Street, Ramsgate, Kent.
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> Deck Hand;- Edward John Miller. Age;- 31yrs. Son of the late Edward John
> and May Miller; husband of Sarah Lilian Miller (nee Boughton) of 13
> Hereson Road,
> Ramsgate, Kent (born Ramsgate).
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> Trimmer;- James Frederick Cox. Age;- 45yrs. Son of the late George Daniel
> and Sarah Cox; husband of Charlotte Louisa Cox (nee Bond), of 6 St.James
> Square,
> Ramsgate, Kent.
> Born;-St.Peter's,Kent.
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> Hope this helps with your research - if you have any further questions
> please do contact me.
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> Very best regards
>
> Terry
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> Terry Wheeler
> The Ramsgate Historical Society
> https://www.facebook.com/RAMSGATE.HISTORICAL.SOCIETY
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2013 : 15:57:35
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Hi.
The birth of your Christian Tromm, it is hard nut to crack.
There are many pages in this topic, lots of names, so it is easy to get lost.
I look into this topic every day without any luck.
This is what genealogy sometimes is, but suddnly new info appears that need to be examined.
I spend several years to find one of my ancestors.
Do not give up
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2013 : 17:29:57
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Good afternoon Kċre ,
Thank-you.
Yes it is an extremely onerous exercise.
I'm sure the answer lies within the thousands of words printed in Christian's topic...all is needed is a...the link..!
Your encouragement is welcomed. I know I'm new to this 'game' but it is so infectious.
I (WE) will get there. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2013 : 22:11:11
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A medallist in England put me onto this site. He says his monthly magazine states that ALL wills made by WW1 soldiers will eventually be on-line. At present only soldiers who were killed/died in action are available. He also says that it was mandatory for every soldier to make a will. That makes sense
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23861821 |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2013 : 10:57:32
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As Kċre suggested... " Don't give up". I certainly won't.
I have been over and over and over again many times on the posts in this topic. Taking my own notes and expanding links to find Christian's connection...as you all know this can be very tiring...but...the link is here or coming from England..! |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/10/2013 : 14:38:35
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All probate records in Norway will be online in a "few years" and finally digitized and searcable (some are already) and free for anyone to use.
There Christian will be mentioned even though he has moved to another country.
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 12/10/2013 : 15:31:56
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Thank-you Kċre.
I do hope I don't have to wait that long to establish Christian's past, but if, so be it. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2013 : 11:39:20
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I received from the National Archives UK indication that documents applied for are now ready...I paid on line for them...I'm told it will take 14 days from date of receipt for arrival...can you believe that..?!
The other documentation awaiting from England (7th October) still awaits..!....nil desperandum. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 13/10/2013 : 13:58:33
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| Hoping that Christian's will from his WWI will reveal something, also. Very interesting set of records, thanks for the reference to the article. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 13/10/2013 : 15:13:25
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Jackie,
I have searched probate records in UK with regard a will made by Christian...negative.
If the only will (mandatory) were kept with his Army papers (destroyed)...we start again..! |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 14/10/2013 : 18:26:48
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Received in post 1 0f 3 requests.
2 more to follow. 'Sent separately for security'.
When all received I will post. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 15/10/2013 : 13:37:34
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I have asked our Son, Darren, to assist in my quest...he travels to Norway a couple of times each year.
He tells me some of his friends are Genealogists.. Who knows...a different slant on things..? |
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