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David Yaw
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 Posted - 15/10/2013 : 23:39:15
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Hoping that Christian's will from his WWI will reveal something, also. Very interesting set of records, thanks for the reference to the article.
Derek, I was at the main probate registry office in London this afternoon in connection with my own family research. I took the opportunity to check out the indexes for the years 1921 and 1922 for Thompson, Thomson and Tomson - regret to report no matches for Christian. Let's hope there is indeed a document from his army service, and that it wasn't with the rest of his records destroyed in that bombing raid. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/10/2013 : 23:57:52
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Originally posted by David Yaw
Derek, I was at the main probate registry office in London this afternoon in connection with my own family research. I took the opportunity to check out the indexes for the years 1921 and 1922 for Thompson, Thomson and Tomson - regret to report no matches for Christian. Let's hope there is indeed a document from his army service, and that it wasn't with the rest of his records destroyed in that bombing raid.
Cristian Tompson died in January 1920, so maybe the probate was in 1920? |
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jungfigh
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Malta
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Posted - 16/10/2013 : 02:35:54
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Originally posted by David Yaw
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Hoping that Christian's will from his WWI will reveal something, also. Very interesting set of records, thanks for the reference to the article.
Derek, I was at the main probate registry office in London this afternoon in connection with my own family research. I took the opportunity to check out the indexes for the years 1921 and 1922 for Thompson, Thomson and Tomson - regret to report no matches for Christian. Let's hope there is indeed a document from his army service, and that it wasn't with the rest of his records destroyed in that bombing raid.
Thank-you David.
I had the same problem. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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jungfigh
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Malta
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Posted - 16/10/2013 : 02:40:57
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Originally posted by jwiborg
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Originally posted by David Yaw
Derek, I was at the main probate registry office in London this afternoon in connection with my own family research. I took the opportunity to check out the indexes for the years 1921 and 1922 for Thompson, Thomson and Tomson - regret to report no matches for Christian. Let's hope there is indeed a document from his army service, and that it wasn't with the rest of his records destroyed in that bombing raid.
Cristian Tompson died in January 1920, so maybe the probate was in 1920?
Thank-you Jan-Peter I had covered that date. Christian certainly is an enigma wrapped up in a conundrum..! |
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Edited by - jungfigh on 16/10/2013 06:56:11 |
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jungfigh
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Malta
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Posted - 18/10/2013 : 10:04:12
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Originally posted by jungfigh
A medallist in England put me onto this site. He says his monthly magazine states that ALL wills made by WW1 soldiers will eventually be on-line. At present only soldiers who were killed/died in action are available. He also says that it was mandatory for every soldier to make a will. That makes sense
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23861821
Below is the full transcript from the medallist I mentioned:
A LASTING LEGACY.
Thousands of soldiers' wills written during World War 1 are being made available on-line. The project has been initiated by Her Majesty's Court and Tribunal Service (HMCTS) who are releasing the documents from their huge archive as being part of next year's World War 1 centenary commemorations. Some 280,000 soldiers' wills are held by the Probate Officer and will be available as an on-line database. Every soldier had to complete a will before they headed to the front line so, should they pay the ultimate sacrifice, then their estate could be dealt with. The soldiers carried a copy with them and many used the opportunity to write letters to their nearest and dearest. Courts Minister Helen Grant said "This fascinating project has opened the door to a whole new insight on our war heroes-it has given us the opportunity for the first time to hear the thoughts and emotions of the brave soldiers who died for this country in their own words". The documents will be available shortly and scanned copies of "The First World War Wills" can be searched and copies ordered on-line at www.gov.uk/probate-search for a small fee.
Your comments please. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 18/10/2013 : 11:04:23
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 18/10/2013 : 19:16:29
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The article link you posted earlier in the topic mentioned that the database online contains only those wills of men who were killed in action. Since Christian survived his military experience he is unlikely to be in the database. However, his will may have been preserved, but just not indexed.
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 18/10/2013 : 22:10:40
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I hope so Jackie.
I've still a few 'irons in the fire' pending from UK. Hopefully will have them sometime next week. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 21/10/2013 : 22:06:07
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Dear Mr Borg.
That is my Maternal Grandmother (sitting) in the picture you posted. I don't know who the other lady is. One discrepancy: my Nan died about 1952. I was 8 years old.
I would like to thank all contributors in my search. I will scrutinise them all tomorrow...an early start beckons. Thank-you all.
To-day I received Maud's Death Certificate. The year shewn was 1960. Amazing how time plays tricks on the mind. I could have sworn it was 8 years earlier. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 22/10/2013 : 12:19:39
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One of the certificates received from England, the wedding of Cristian and Maud dated July 19th. 1903. The Parish Church (Christchurch Ramsgate). His Father Donald Tompson (carpenter), her Father Thomas Fast (fisherman).
Cristian and Maud were both shewn as living at the same address at the time of their wedlock.
Cristian signs as Cristian Tompson. ( No H ).
Maud signs as Maud Olivia Adams Fast. (not hyphenated)..
He 20 years.
She 17 years. |
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 22/10/2013 : 16:27:50
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| Just curious, topic is so big now can't remember if anyone has looked at the 1901 England census at the Fast family to see if they had other boarders or fisherman living with them that year... |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/10/2013 : 16:39:53
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Grasping for straws.....
Search criteria:
given name including rist: christ, christain, christan, christean, christen, christian, christin, christjan, cristen, cristian, krist, kristain, kristan, kristban, kristean, kristen, kristiae, kristian, kristinius, kristinn, kristion, kristjan, kristoval, kristpinus, kristtian, kristyen, krristian, risten
surname starting with to: tobias, tobiasen, tobiass, tobiassen, tobies, tobiesen, tolefsen, tolfsen, tolfsrød, tollags, tollaks, tollaksen, tollefs, tollefsen, tollefssøn, tollevs, tollevsen, tollis, tollisen, tollofs, tolløfsen, tomas, tomasen, tomass, tomassen, tomasson, tomassøn, tommas, tommasen, tommassen, tommasstuen, tommesen, torakilds, torberg, torbergsen, torbjørns, torbjørnsen, torbjørnsrud, torbjørs, tordsen, torers, tores, toresen, toreson, toress, toressen, torevalds, torgals, torgers, torgersen, torgerss, torgrims, torgunrud, torjes, torjesen, torjeson, torjus, torjusen, torjuss, torjussen, torjusson, torkels, torkelsen, torkelss, torkilds, torkildsen, torkils, torkilsen, tormodsen, torsen, torson, torsteins, torsteinsen, torstens, torstensen, torstenson, torvalds, torvaldsen, torvilds, torvilsøn, tossen, tostens, tostensen
birthyear 1883 +/- one year: 1882, 1883, 1884
occupation includes fis: fisker, fiskeri
Finds 5 possibles:
Rogalnd, Egersund
Kristian Torkildsen b. 1882 Egersunds ladestad sta; father’s full name and occupation not known from census entry since this Kristian is an employee:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=20&filnamn=f01116&gardpostnr=39&personpostnr=231&merk=231#ovre
Rogaland, Strand
Kristian Tostensen Fjelle b 1883 Strand; father Tosten Kristiansen Fjelle boat builder
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=17&filnamn=f01130&gardpostnr=285&personpostnr=1596&merk=1596#ovre
Møre og Romsdal, Edø
Kristian Toresen b. 1883 Edø; listed as son of Paul Jakobsen, Kristian is temporarily away in Trondheim
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=23&filnamn=f01573&gardpostnr=371&personpostnr=2439&merk=2439#ovre
Sør Trøndelag, Aa
Kristian Torbergsen b. 1884 Aa; son of Torberg Olsen
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=26&filnamn=f01630&gardpostnr=308&personpostnr=2309&merk=2309#ovre
Nordland, Rødø
Kristian Torstensen b. 1884 Rødø; father is Torsten Hanssen
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=29&filnamn=f01836&gardpostnr=91&personpostnr=589&merk=589#ovre
None are particularly enticing as no Donald for father, no birthplace or residence reminiscent of Trom or Lauden Vordner. Only one's father, Kristian from Strand, is demonstrably a carpenter (boat building requires carpentry unless one building a metal ship).
But at least this is on the wall.... |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 22/10/2013 : 16:48:25
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| Thank-you for your continuing help Jackie...we'll get there. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 22/10/2013 : 17:14:29
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Just curious, topic is so big now can't remember if anyone has looked at the 1901 England census at the Fast family to see if they had other boarders or fisherman living with them that year...
No Jackie.
It shews Father Thomas (fisherman).
Mother Ann Mary.
Maud and five brothers living in Bloomsbury Road, Ramsgate. No lodgers.
Bloomsbury Road is also the address shared by Cristian and Maud at the time of their marriage (1903).
The 1911 Census shews Cristian and Maud living in Alma Road Ramsgate. With 5 daughters. The son's were not yet born.
Cristian is shewn as a Timbermerchant (sawer/labourer). |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2013 : 22:22:17
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| I've widened my search: Lloyds of London ( ship losses, etc). and similar to try to establish Cristian's date of birth. It must be recorded somewhere. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
Edited by - jungfigh on 23/10/2013 22:23:33 |
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