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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/02/2007 : 00:30:30
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quote: Originally posted by matthewmac66
Where do you find the great maps, Jan Peter?
The maps are from Norgesglasset
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matthewmac66
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 20/02/2007 : 02:40:16
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
quote: Originally posted by matthewmac66
Where do you find the great maps, Jan Peter?
The maps are from Norgesglasset
Jan Peter
Wow, nice. Thank you. |
M. McClellan North Carolina, USA Ancestry: Kristenhaugen/Haugen/Christiansen, Olson, Knudsdatter/Kindsæth |
Edited by - matthewmac66 on 20/02/2007 02:40:41 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2007 : 14:18:39
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Hi, I have been visiting Statsarkivet on Kongsberg but it wasn`t much new info to get from Land Bygdebok, but... The main archive for S- and Nordre Land are plased on Statsarkiven in Hamar in Hedmark County. I disvovered that Kinseth and Nordsinn parish are on the Western part of the river Dokka (Østsinn parish on Eastern side) and farm Kindseth belonged to the Northern and Western part of Norsinni school region (1865 Telling) Nordre Land are shrinking accordin the method of ellimination, but not enough. I wonder why there was no Kindseth farms in 1801, 3 farms in 1865 and none in 1901, 3 farms connot simply vanish, they have changed names as Kristenshaugen. Now I think yesterdays Kristenstuen was a blind track. Kjennslia seems to be an old farm for generations. The author of Land Bygdebok from 1962 stated it was only 4 farms ending on -seter/sæter: Kjennseth (on the southern ridge) Domset, Engeset and Frøsæther. Kåre |
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matthewmac66
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 20/02/2007 : 17:41:09
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quote: Originally posted by Kåarto
Hi, I have been visiting Statsarkivet on Kongsberg but it wasn`t much new info to get from Land Bygdebok, but... The main archive for S- and Nordre Land are plased on Statsarkiven in Hamar in Hedmark County. I disvovered that Kinseth and Nordsinn parish are on the Western part of the river Dokka (Østsinn parish on Eastern side) and farm Kindseth belonged to the Northern and Western part of Norsinni school region (1865 Telling) Nordre Land are shrinking accordin the method of ellimination, but not enough. I wonder why there was no Kindseth farms in 1801, 3 farms in 1865 and none in 1901, 3 farms connot simply vanish, they have changed names as Kristenshaugen. Now I think yesterdays Kristenstuen was a blind track. Kjennslia seems to be an old farm for generations. The author of Land Bygdebok from 1962 stated it was only 4 farms ending on -seter/sæter: Kjennseth (on the southern ridge) Domset, Engeset and Frøsæther. Kåre
Thank you, Kåre. I appreciate your continued research. |
M. McClellan North Carolina, USA Ancestry: Kristenhaugen/Haugen/Christiansen, Olson, Knudsdatter/Kindsæth |
Edited by - matthewmac66 on 20/02/2007 17:41:53 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2007 : 22:46:20
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This area of Søndre Land parish has been transferred to Nordre Land, that's why it was so tricky to find the farm...
The farm is called Kjenset today, and is as Kåre says west of Dokka.
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matthewmac66
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 20/02/2007 : 23:30:02
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Wonderful news, guys. Thank you very much. I'm guessing then that the plot of land which Christian Hansen (Haugen) worked would be close by. I really appreciate all of your research on this! |
M. McClellan North Carolina, USA Ancestry: Kristenhaugen/Haugen/Christiansen, Olson, Knudsdatter/Kindsæth |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2007 : 00:03:37
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In your first post here you say that your family originated from "Odnæs". Census-1865 shows that one of the neighbouring farms to Haugen and Kristenhaugen are Odnes. So Kristenhaugen must be located next to Odnes, but I guess it dosn't exist anymore.
Driving distance between Kjenset, Nordre Land, and Odnes, Søndre Land is 20 km (12 miles)
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Edited by - jwiborg on 21/02/2007 00:11:16 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2007 : 00:16:46
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Wow, great work Jan Peter. Matthew, if you draw a line between Kjenseth and M in lake Mjøsa below gjøvik and Hamar (Norways largest freshwater lake), you will find Flugerg Church on the Eastern part of Lake Randsfjorden and Kristenshaugen was placed in Fluberg parish in 1865 Telling, it´s at least a start (Fluberg was known for Flubergbakken, a famous skijumping hill in the "old days")
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2007 : 00:46:48
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Odnes farm is also located in Fluberg local parish. However, the distance to the Fluberg church is 8 km.
I believe Kristenhaugen was located much closer to Odnes, maybe just a few 100 meters apart...
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matthewmac66
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 21/02/2007 : 02:22:55
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
Odnes farm is also located in Fluberg local parish. However, the distance to the Fluberg church is 8 km.
I believe Kristenhaugen was located much closer to Odnes, maybe just a few 100 meters apart...
Jan Peter
Thank you both. This is such great detail and brought a smile today. It will be good to have the area in which I can now visit. I am learning much as we work through this. Now to also work on the language, so that I can make the most of the web resources |
M. McClellan North Carolina, USA Ancestry: Kristenhaugen/Haugen/Christiansen, Olson, Knudsdatter/Kindsæth |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2007 : 02:44:51
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Check with TravelGenie - they are located in Ames Iowa and have a website (probably much like travelgenie.com??). You can purchase modern maps of Norway. I have a collection of super close-up maps of areas in Norway where my families originated. The maps are VERY high quality and absolutely fascinating.
Keep studying the 'how-to' articles about using the Norwegian parish church records (all under Links from this website). Also check into the bygdeboks that might exist for your ancestral areas of Norway. |
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matthewmac66
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 21/02/2007 : 03:39:45
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quote: Originally posted by Hopkins
Check with TravelGenie - they are located in Ames Iowa and have a website (probably much like travelgenie.com??). You can purchase modern maps of Norway. I have a collection of super close-up maps of areas in Norway where my families originated. The maps are VERY high quality and absolutely fascinating.
Keep studying the 'how-to' articles about using the Norwegian parish church records (all under Links from this website). Also check into the bygdeboks that might exist for your ancestral areas of Norway.
Thank you, I surely will ah......found them here |
M. McClellan North Carolina, USA Ancestry: Kristenhaugen/Haugen/Christiansen, Olson, Knudsdatter/Kindsæth |
Edited by - matthewmac66 on 21/02/2007 03:44:25 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2007 : 15:19:59
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Hi, after a good night sleep I am also more and more convinced: "kristenhaugen" lies in the Odnes area as Jan Peter pointed out, in local parish Fluberg and Kristenhaugen in 1865 census was likely or flagrant a blind track. Martin Kr. Haugen age 3 in the 1865 census was son of Christian Hansen age 36 and Kari(Karen) Knudsdatter (Kindseth) age 37 on farm Haugen as Borge and Jan Peter mentioned earlier. This farm was placed in the Western school region which means on the Western part of Randsforden. On the West side of the delta about 1 mile across the lake from Odnes lies Haugen and the distance between Haugen and Kindsæth, they was "almost" neighbours. Kristenhaugen was likely named after Kristian later than 1865, Martin used the original name Haugen when he emigrated, Martin Kr. Haugen There is one small BUT for the final evidence, the church records, or is it still to many many trees..... Kåre |
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 21/02/2007 : 17:53:59
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quote: Originally posted by Kåarto
Kristenhaugen was likely named after Kristian later than 1865
Kåre, the Kristenhaugen place was already there in the 1865 census, actually it lists 2 places with that name. All of these places were listed on page 15 according to the Digitalarkivet, and seams to be crofts under Haug or Haugen: Haugerud, Berg Kristenhaugen, Haugen, Haugen, Snedkerhaugen, Haugen, Kristenhaugen, Svarverhaug and Svarverhaugen. |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2007 : 19:31:05
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The Sons of Norway used to sell highly detailed maps of individual parishes. I looked on their website which has gotten rather confusing and could not find a link. You could email them and inquire.
www.sofn.com
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