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Dawn
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Posted - 24/04/2007 : 19:21:11
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Ive been adding more people to my "tree" and wanted to know about these names..
Anne Nikoline stoltenberg pedersdtr norheim. 1st, Is there a reason for such a long name? 2nd, is the "Norheim" part of the name, or ??
there are also names i got from someone that end in Lima, & Nja, and the way it was written i couldnt tell if they just put the town they were born in/or? at the end, or if it was part of the name.
thanks for any answers :)
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tlwright65
Senior member
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Posted - 25/04/2007 : 01:07:04
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I can tell you part of the answer! Anne Nikoline Pedersdatter is probably her actual name. Norheim was probably the farm they lived on. They normally took the farms names as their last name. For example: My 3rd great-grandfather, Andreas Eriksen lived on the Løberg Farm in Vang, Hedmark. When he and his family emigrated to the US, they used the name Loberg.
I'm not sure what the Stoltenberg name would be. Someone else will probably tell you that! |
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Dawn
Starting member
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Posted - 25/04/2007 : 02:05:55
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Thanks :) do you think i should search with those last "farm" names, or just stick with the given names? i dont want to search the wrong family LOL
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tlwright65
Senior member
USA
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Posted - 25/04/2007 : 02:42:40
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I can help look in the records, but I need her birthdate and where (if you know) she was born! At least the birthdate. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 25/04/2007 : 12:36:23
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Stoltenberg is an old family name in Norway, and it has probably been added to Anne Nikoline's name just to show that she is from that family. I would guess that either her mother or her father was of Stoltenberg-heritage.
The Stoltenberg-family have been known to hold many senior public servant positons for many hundred years. The current primeminister of Norway is named Stoltenberg, and his father was a Minister of Foreign Affairs. The family have had top-level official posisions for the last 4-500 years...
Anne Nikoline's father would be someone named Peder, and she lived on the Norheim farm, as Tami correctly stated...
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tlwright65
Senior member
USA
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Posted - 25/04/2007 : 16:05:53
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I just found out about the name Stoltenberg! Just put her birthdate in there and we can help find Anne and her family! |
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Dawn
Starting member
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Posted - 25/04/2007 : 17:35:53
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she was the wife of my great x' 5 (or 6, i lost count) grandfather Halvard Larson (serigstad) and if what i found was right, she was born 1803 died 1842
I didnt 100% confirm them yet.. i added them to my tree and am working on it, but by all means if you have info lay it on me. lol
i was not able to find her parents yet tho. just his.
this is the line im tracking.. Halvor serikstad B 1896, his father, Halvor Halvorsen serigstad B 1874, his father -Halvor Halvorsen B 1853 , (this is where i am still trying to confirm the info, atleast i can hope im on the right family line at this point LOL) his father,Halvard Larson Born: 1800, married to Anne nikoline stoltenberg pedersdtr norheim Born: 1803 Died: December 4 1842. then afther that , his Parents- Lars Hansen and anna halvardsdtr. ive gone back to 1600's but was getting ahead of my self and im trying to confirm what i ahave, the best i can.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 25/04/2007 : 19:11:41
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Here are Anne Nikoline's parents and siblings on the Noreim farm in Lye parish, Rogaland, 1801.
Her parents are Peder Tollevsen & Karen Pernille Bull
Children at home in 1801 are: Kistine Stoltenberg Pedersdtr (11) Jens Pedersen (8) Ragnille Pedersdtr (5) Karen Pernille Pedersdtr (1)
Anne Nikoline is christened 16-JAN-1803.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 25/04/2007 : 19:41:59
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Karen Pernille Bull, born 27-Mar-1769, married 06-Dec-1790 with Peder (Per) Torleivsson Tjensvoll.
Karen's father was Jens Jacobsen Bull, born 12-Feb-1718 in Tønsberg, Vestfold, dead 01-Oct-1804 in Lye, Rogaland. Jens was a priest in Lye for almost 50 years, 1753-1800.
Jens married 1) 16-sep-1755 with Akseliane Christine Smith (20-Sep-1737 - 23-Nov-1762) He had at least 5 children with her.
2) with Kirsten Vincentsdtr. Stoltenberg from Tønsberg (d. 1772) 4 children, among them Karen Pernille
Jens' father was Jacob Jacobson Bull and came from Denmark. His mother Marta Ottesdtr. Ørbech was from Ringebu, Oppland.
Jens' posterity are through his daughters. None of his 3 sons grew up to be adults. Family names such as Kielland, Arentz, Scheel, Zetlitz m.fl. can be traced back to him. Two of his daughters from the marriage with Akseliane are great-grandmothers of the big norwegian writer Alexander Kielland. He is recognized as one of the "big four" norwegian writers, together with Henrik Ibsen, Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson and Jonas Lie.
Jens was also "talented" with fortune-telling. There are several stories mentioned, one of them goes like this: "One Sunday Bull officiated in the parish, two of his sons drowned after going through the ice on a local small lake close to the parsonage. He ended the sermon early as possible and went home. When the people back home told him the sad news, he replied that he already knew it...
So Anne Nikoline' maternal grandmother was Kirsten Vincentsdtr. Stoltenberg from Tønsberg (d. 1772). Primeminister Jens Stoltenberg's lineage can also be traced back to Tønsberg to about 1650, which most likely makes you a distant relative to our primeminister...
Statsarkivet i Oslo (the regional state archives in Oslo) have a private manuscript about the Stoltenberg family history.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 25/04/2007 23:40:29 |
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Dawn
Starting member
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Posted - 26/04/2007 : 01:52:56
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That is some really cool stuff :) i printed that out to read to my mom.. she loves the stories ;)
But now i have an issue! ,Halvard Larson Born 29 JUN 1800 Serigstad, Time, Rogaland, Norway , death 09 NOV 1878 , , Norway Spouse: Ane Nikoline Stoltenberg Pedersdatter Norheim Marriage: 12 NOV 1823 , , Norway (6 or 7 kids) AND Halvard Larson Born 29 JUN 1800 Serigstad, Time, Rogaland, Norway Death: 09 NOV 1878 , , Norway Spouse: Johanna Svensdatter Thu Marriage: 11 APR 1844 , , Norway (another 7 kids)
so i guess he got married again after Ane nikoline died?? what happened to the kids from the first marriage?
and how exactly would i put this on the family tree!? hahaha!
the further i dig into this family history, the more confused i get :-P
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