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debbiecraig1952
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 26/04/2007 : 18:39:04
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my great-great-grandmother Cecilia Lundgren (later to become Mrs. Charles Hilstrom in Chicago) was born in Stavanger in 1847. The family emigrated to the US in about 1853. I believe her parents names were Olaf and Johann, although I am not positive. Where might I begin looking in census, etc? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I know nothing more for certain than this. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 26/04/2007 : 20:13:22
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Cecilia would have left Norway before the 1865 census - so a relatively easy search in that database is useless. The next earlier census of all persons was 1801 -- too early for your purpose.
You could search emigration databases for the port of Stavanger but be aware that those are not complete because of a destructive fire. You can also plan to search the various congregations in the city of Stavanger for 1847 births/baptisms. There was more than one church congregation in that city - so make a list and start checking each one.
Have you exhausted the US information available for Cecilia? obituary? marriage record? all census enumerations? Chicago city directories? American church records? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 26/04/2007 : 20:29:00
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Hi, I guess this is them in census-1880 for Chicago, Illinois.
Cecilia does not look to be Mary's mother...
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Edited by - jwiborg on 26/04/2007 20:30:46 |
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
690 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2007 : 20:49:41
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I think she is her daughter. The original census lists Mary as being born in Illinois.
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
690 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2007 : 20:53:21
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It does list her mother as being from Sweden, but I had a great grandparent listed as being from Norway, because her husband was and she was born in Wisconsin, so I'm going to keep looking.
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
690 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2007 : 15:36:30
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For some reason, those links didn't work. Sorry, about that. Here's the info from Charles Hilstrom's death certificate.
HILSTROM, CHARLES 07/28/1904 CHICAGO 60 YR U 00006067 COOK
And here is the info on Cecilia.
HILSTROM CECILIA F/W UNK 6034571 1928-11-29 COOK CHICAGO 28-12-01 (the first date is the death date and the second is the date filed. Here is the link for the state of Illinois databases. http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html
Hopefully that link will help you. Wanda
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
690 Posts |
Posted - 30/04/2007 : 06:22:25
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What is the word after Maria Magdalene's name on Cecilia's birth/baptismal record?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 30/04/2007 : 07:22:25
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The same parents had a girl by the same name in Gothenburg, Sweden in 1845. She probably died as an infant.
Cecilia Agnetta Andersdr Lundgren Christening: 24 AUG 1845, Lundby Forsamling, Goteborg, Goteborg Och Bohus, Sweden Parents: Anders Olof Lundgren & Maria Magdalena Erland
Jan Peter
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 30/04/2007 : 22:27:09
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Just some more info on the word after Maria Magdalene: It is close to Rosenvoldhaugen - it is Rosenkildhougen - members of the Rosenkilde family can be found in Stavanger from about 1700 up to 1850 - today there is a Rosenkildegate (Rosenkilde street) in Stavanger, at the bottom of a hill not far from the Dome. |
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debbiecraig1952
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 19:47:28
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quote: Originally posted by Hopkins
Cecilia would have left Norway before the 1865 census - so a relatively easy search in that database is useless. The next earlier census of all persons was 1801 -- too early for your purpose.
You could search emigration databases for the port of Stavanger but be aware that those are not complete because of a destructive fire. You can also plan to search the various congregations in the city of Stavanger for 1847 births/baptisms. There was more than one church congregation in that city - so make a list and start checking each one.
Have you exhausted the US information available for Cecilia? obituary? marriage record? all census enumerations? Chicago city directories? American church records?
Since my first post, I received from another kind volunteer the parish record showing Cecilia's baptism at Domkirken, Frue. I've located the archives on the internet, so I plan to browse the records of that parish to see if I can find her parents marriage, or emigration recorded in them.
I have done considerable work using Ancestry.com and have found 1870 census in Chicago, but not yet 1860 or 1880. I have death certificate. Also several children's birth records. But I appreciate your suggestions. |
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debbiecraig1952
Starting member
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 19:52:59
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
Hi, I guess this is them in census-1880 for Chicago, Illinois.
Cecilia does not look to be Mary's mother...
Jan Peter
That's them! If the surname was transcribed as HITSTROM that will explain why my search has so far failed to find them in that year's records. I've found many isntances of transcriber error, misspellings, etc, but that is to be expected, even today with standardized spellings! Thanks so much. I'll get a copy of the original document the next time I'm at the library now that I know what to look for. |
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debbiecraig1952
Starting member
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 19:56:15
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quote: Originally posted by Lislcat
It does list her mother as being from Sweden, but I had a great grandparent listed as being from Norway, because her husband was and she was born in Wisconsin, so I'm going to keep looking.
Wanda
This is the best message board community I've ever posted to! You folks are great.
Yes, this is my Cecilia and her husband Charles Hilstrom. I didn't have any record of Mary, but that doesn't mean a lot - many children died early in life in those days. |
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debbiecraig1952
Starting member
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 19:58:34
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quote: Originally posted by Lislcat
For some reason, those links didn't work. Sorry, about that. Here's the info from Charles Hilstrom's death certificate.
HILSTROM, CHARLES 07/28/1904 CHICAGO 60 YR U 00006067 COOK
And here is the info on Cecilia.
HILSTROM CECILIA F/W UNK 6034571 1928-11-29 COOK CHICAGO 28-12-01 (the first date is the death date and the second is the date filed. Here is the link for the state of Illinois databases. http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html
Hopefully that link will help you. Wanda
thanks |
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