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enigma
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 Posted - 02/06/2007 : 00:37:25
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Apparently the "actual" (ya, sure) surname was either olson/olsen or some version thereof, but they used either Arkaas, Arkaasa, Arkasa, Arkosa AND/OR Arkose as their last name, here in America, in reference to a Norwegian farm in Buskerud named, ARKOSET.
In the opening post there is a very early reference to:
"Ola Olson Arkaas, ...etc."
I don't even know if they are family members, but it's the only online connection to "ARKOSE" that I can find in 19th Century Wisconsin.... and that is why I am interested in them, just in case it eventually pans out.
I wish I had more time to devote to this right now, but I'd better wait until I get ahold of some death certificates. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/06/2007 : 01:19:53
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I understand Jane, it must be correct, but I think this might be the right people even the final proof is missing, but:
I doubt there is another farm or place in Norway named Arkoset.
A look up in the registers from Siljan parish which is closer to Arkoset than Sandsvĉr is a new possibility.
In the pronunciation of Arkoset the ending t is stum so Arkose as you spell is how it sounds.
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enigma
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Posted - 02/06/2007 : 04:11:51
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Originally posted by Kċarto
I understand Jane, it must be correct, but I think this is the right people even the final proof is missing, but:
I doubt there is another farm or place in Norway named Arkoset.
Kċre
YOU are right!
After I read Wanda's posting, I realized that I'd not looked for Knud/Knut/Knudt/Knute OLSON-OLSEN in the 1880 Census.
Why?
Because just in the smallish Civil War database at the Vesterheim Norwegian-American website, there were so many OLSON/Olsen, Knud/Knut/Knudt/Knutes - whereas there was ONE "Arkaasa, Arne," and NO other Arkaas/Arkasa/Arkaasa/Arkosa/Arkoses of any other first name.
So I presumed -incorrectly- that Arne's brother was using the last name Olsen/Olson or some other spelling of the same for the 1880 US Census.
Anyway, in the 1880 census, ARNE has the last name O-L-S-O-N, as follows:
Arne OLSON Self M Male W 41 NOR Farmer NOR NOR
Guri
OLSON Wife M Female W 34 NOR Keeping House NOR NOR
Oluf G.
OLSON Son S Male W 11 WI At Home NOR NOR
Karen OLSON Other W Female W 85 NOR Boarder NOR NOR
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_6705061&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99
ARKAASA, Arne
From Sandsvaer, Norway. Born 12 Aug 1837. Civil War: Corporal. Post war: Died 30 May (?) 1892 in Scandinavia, Wisconsin. Stone reading "Arkose, Arne O. 1837-1892" is in Scandinavia Lutheran Cemetery Sect. II Row 1, Waupaca County, Wisconsin. Sources: (Ulvestad p262) (KJR) (Wisconsin Cemetery Records) (USGenWeb Archives by Geraldine Trinrud gertrin@gglbbs.com) "Arkose, Arne"
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enigma
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Posted - 02/06/2007 : 04:38:07
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Thank you so very much for the work you did on the Arkaas family you found in the 1880 US Census.
Knud/Knut/Knudt/Knute is my Greatgrandfather, as one of his daughters is my grandmother and one of the other women's names I've been a bit curious about is one of her sisters.
I wonder if Knut O. Arkaas fought in the Civil War, too, and if he did, then what name did he enlist under? I wonder where Guri, his brother's wife, is buried? Maybe she, or maybe she & others in the family returned to Norway?
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Originally posted by Lislcat
The Scandinavia area in Waupaca County is actually very pretty. If you plan to visit, find out when the Scandinavia Corn Roast is. I think it's in August, but it's really a nice time. A large percentage of the people there are either Norwegian or Danish. I have a tee-shirt from one of the Corn Roast's that says "Take a Liking to a Viking". Cute, I thought!
Scandinavia, Wisconsin Corn Roast: Aug.3,4,5
http://www.dwave.net/~mitchswenson/corn.htm
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The Waupaca library carries all of the local newspapers and obits from that area. They may be on microfilm, but I believe they have them. I have great grandparents buried in one of the Scandinavia cemeteries, so am somewhat familiar with them.
Thanks for the tip, I was under the impression that it was all archived at the (nearby) University of Wisconsin Library in Stevens Point.
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You said something in your post that I was just thinking today, while trying to find your family in everyway possible, in the different censuses. They seemed to have no problem with changing their names or people misspelling them. My father was the same way with his and I think it was because his parents and grandparents were use to it. My great grandparents had two different names that they were known by. In a total contradiction, my Mother's maiden name was misspelled in an obit and she threw a huge fit. Funny how things change. 
In this day & age, it's hard to conceive that such customs were customary, LOL
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....One question I had while searching through the US census, is if Knud Arkaas's family(as listed in the 1880 census) ever changed their name to Olson?
I don't know. But I do know that one of his daughters married my grandfather, using the last name: Olsen, (With an "E," ) but decades later her maiden name became "Arkose."
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I was trying to find an immigration date for Knud, so was looking to see when he died and was doing a search for his son, Carl.
In the 1900 census I couldn't find him, but found a Carl Olson and was wondering if the family had changed their name? Just curious. I don't know if it will give you anymore info or not, but thought I'd ask.
There is an online record of a Carl Arkasa birth in Waupaca County, and I'll get the URL for you tomorrow, I'm sure it's the same person.
Neither Knud nor his younger brother will be in the 1900 US Census - here are the dates from the Scandavia Lutheran Cemetery:
scan.txt
ARKOSE, Arne C. 1837 1892 II-1 Veteran Civil War
ARKOSE, Jonetta 1844 1886 II-33
ARKOSE, Knut O. 1835 1890 II-33
ARKOSE, Sophia Olson 1869 1892 II 33
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/waupaca/cemeteries/scan.txt
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Lislcat
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 03:26:14
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I think Guri died before 1910, because she's not listed in the 1910 census. She may have gone back to Norway, but if you had a son and grandchildren, do you think you would of done that? I don't think so. I think we just have to figure out where she is buried. She could be buried with Arne and it's just not listed. Or, maybe she went to live with some other family member?
Here's the 1910 Census
Olson, Olof, Head, 40 yrs, married 15 yrs, born in WI, farmer
Olson, Caroline, wife, 37 yrs., married 15 yrs, 4 children, 4 still living, born Norway, immigrated 1892,
Olson, Alvin C., son, 14 yrs., born WI
Olson, Malinda (clearly spelled), daughter, 13 yrs., born WI
Olson, Norman, son, 9 yrs., born WI
Olson, Wilhelm, son, 1 6/12 yrs., born WI
My great grandparents are buried in the same cemetery as Arne and Knud. They are Jens and Elizabeth Madson, plus some of their children. They were early settlers too and are listed in "Indian Land". They are the only non-Norwegian great grandparents that I have. They came over from Denmark.
UW-Stevens Point has the obits for the Stevens Point Journal on-line, not the Waupaca paper or the Iola Herald. I'll double check this week, but I'm almost positive that the Waupaca library carries the old obits for their area.
Good luck, Wanda |
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enigma
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 15:21:44
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Originally posted by Lislcat
I think Guri died before 1910, because she's not listed in the 1910 census.... I think we just have to figure out where she is buried. She could be buried with Arne and it's just not listed.[/b]
You're correct here. At some point earlier this year when doing a search on Arne, there was mention of an adjacent grave, unmarked, I think, that was presumed to be his spouse.
I'm unsure where I read that online, but now that I know that he is my great grandfather's brother, I plan to make hard copies of anything I find online about him.
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Here's the 1910 Census
Olson, Olof, Head, 40 yrs, married 15 yrs, born in WI, farmer
Olson, Caroline, wife, 37 yrs., married 15 yrs, 4 children, 4 still living, born Norway, immigrated 1892,
Olson, Alvin C., son, 14 yrs., born WI
Olson, Malinda (clearly spelled), daughter, 13 yrs., born WI
Olson, Norman, son, 9 yrs., born WI
Olson, Wilhelm, son, 1 6/12 yrs., born WI
My great grandparents are buried in the same cemetery as Arne and Knud. They are Jens and Elizabeth Madson, plus some of their children. They were early settlers too and are listed in "Indian Land". They are the only non-Norwegian great grandparents that I have. They came over from Denmark.
Isn't that old book fascinating? I'd like to pick up a copy.
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UW-Stevens Point has the obits for the Stevens Point Journal on-line, not the Waupaca paper or the Iola Herald. I'll double check this week, but I'm almost positive that the Waupaca library carries the old obits for their area.
Good luck, Wanda
I'm sure you're correct. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 17:06:37
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Hi there
I have been searching records from Siljan, Gjerpen and Solum, all nearby to Arkoset, but no hits so fare.
Knud was most likely Arnes older brother given name.
Even the emigration from Norway just had started, about 6000 Norwegians participated in the civil war and about 1000 fall.
Perhaps this link can be to some help?
http://vesterheim.org/CivilWar/index.html
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Lislcat
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 23:02:00
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I now know that the Waupaca Library has the Waupaca papers on microfilm, but I didn't see anything on the Iola Herald, which often had obits for the Scandinavia area.
These are their holdings:
Waupaca Area Public Library Microfilm Holdings:
Cemetery Index
Wayne and Alta Guyant's Cemetery Index on microfilm ( See Waupaca GenWeb at the top of the page for a listing of cemeteries).
This index includes a general index, as well as veteran and maiden name indexes with each cemetery. It includes cemeteries found in Portage, Waupaca, and Waushara counties as well as obituaries from the Waupaca County Post for some of the listings.
Newspapers
* Waupaca County Republican from April 2, 1874 - May 31, 1917
* Waupaca County Record from December 1, 1894 - May 31, 1917
* Waupaca County Post from January 19, 1878 - present.
Federal and State Census Records
Birth and Death Indexes
* Pre-1907 Birth and Death Indexes for Wisconsin on microfiche donated by the Waupaca Area Genealogical Society.
They will also do searches for a fee. 
Now you've got me interested in going to that cemetery again. It's been awhile since I worked on the Danish part of my family. I've traced them back to the 1600's in Vejle (Veile) Denmark, but I still have more current gaps to fill, so a trip there and to the Iola area, might be helpful.
Good luck with getting the death certificates. I found that very helpful
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enigma
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 23:43:59
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Wanda, have you checked to see if any of your family can be found in the old Wisconsin newspapers, now searchable at http://news.google.com -- then click on News ARCHIVE.
I was surprised when these old newspapers became available online at how many times I was able to find articles mentioning family members. There were so many small town papers, and back at that time, the "society" columnist invariably would mention if anyone came to town to visit relatives --- it's truly a different day & age; I have no idea if early papers for other regions of the USA are so "chatty" about the residents, but definitely that part of Wisconsin, had lots of "human interest" stories, galore. So you might want to try some searches, just in case some interesting anecdotes come up.
I've found the date of Knud Olsen's marriage to Jonette/Jonetta Iverson/Iversen.
APRIL 20, 1867
Genealogy > Wisconsin Genealogy Index Home
Marriage Record Details
Last Name:Iversen
FirstName:Jonette
Day:20
Month:April
Year:1867
County:Waupaca
Volume:1Page:135
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/vitalrecords/index.asp?id=2444037&record_type=m
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enigma
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 23:58:06
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Originally posted by Kċarto
Hi there
I have been searching records from Siljan, Gjerpen and Solum, all nearby to Arkoset, but no hits so fare.
Knud was most likely Arnes older brother given name.
Even the emigration from Norway just had started, about 6000 Norwegians participated in the civil war and about 1000 fall.
Perhaps this link can be to some help?
http://vesterheim.org/CivilWar/index.html
Kċre
Aren't you a sweetheart -- that is so very nice of you! However, I really hope you aren't wasting your precious time -- and I hope that Ola Olson & Sigrid and his sons Knut Olson & Jonette Iversen and Arne Olson & Guri Riste .... well, I hope that they actually are listed somewhere.
What if it turns out that they are Saami or Same or something, and actually traveled some distance to tenant farm at Arkoset before emigrating, but otherwise have no connection to Buskerud or Telemark??? I hope you are not going up a blind alley wasting precious time & energy for naught.
I have explored the Vesterheim database, but haven't seriously researched Knud/Knut/Knute/Knudt Olsen/Olson yet -- there's too many entries for me to plough through currently, but some day I will.
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enigma
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 03:55:42
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| Next year, 2008 will be the 150th anniversary of the nearby city of Stevens Point, Wisconsin. I wonder if that might be a good summer to spend some time 25 miles away in Scandinavia, Waupaca County --- it seems like there should be a big emphasis on local history, more so than normal, at that time. |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 05:10:11
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Waupaca celebrated it's 150th anniversary in May, so it's too bad you missed that. My sister said that they put on a very nice celebration. As a alumnus of UWSP, I'm sure that Stevens Point (Go Pointers!) will put on a good celebration and there are many more hotels in the St. Point area, although Waupaca has a few. Even though Stevens Point and Waupaca are nearby, they are two separate counties and I don't think there will be much more emphasis on local history in Waupaca, than what is already there. Waupaca is very proud of it's heritage, so I think you will find a wealth of information, whenever you travel there.
Good luck!
Wanda
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Lislcat
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 05:50:03
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Thanks for the heads up on the newspaper archives on Google. I found quite a few articles about my grandfather, who was involved in local politics. Now I just have to decide if I want to subscribe to the newspaper service, to get the full articles. It's very enticing, just seeing a little blurb and wanting to read the entire article.
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enigma
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 15:24:52
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Don't worry about joining - figure it this way, the longer you wait, the more likely it is that that even more newspaper articles will be scanned online.
Last night I read that there were a total of 82 different Norwegian American newspapers in Wisconsin between the early 1800s and the 1980s -- that will be an extraordinary treasure trove if they ever get translated and placed online, hey?
Another place where you MAY find mention of your early family members is over at http://books.google.com/
That site is much bigger than a year ago, and the searches bring back LOTS more results than previously.
Also, if there's anything that you follow closely in the current news, you can sign up for news alerts at http://news.google.com/ - and then every time the word OR phrase you've signified, every time it appears in a news article anywhere, you'll receive an automated email with a link to the original article.
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enigma
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 15:51:22
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Originally posted by Lislcat
.....One question I had while searching through the US census, is if Knud Arkaas's family (as listed in the 1880 census) ever changed their name to Olson? I was trying to find an immigration date for Knud, so was looking to see when he died and was doing a search for his son, Carl. In the 1900 census I couldn't find him, but found a Carl Olson and was wondering if the family had changed their name? Just curious. I don't know if it will give you anymore info or not, but thought I'd ask.
Good luck with your research.
Wanda
I don't know if they every actually changed the name, officially. I do know I am finding stuff about my grandmother using either Olsen OR Olson -- in fact, even about the same events; for instance, on the marriage license, she's Olsen and in an early newspaper she is reported to have the maiden name of Olson, with an 'O.' But, I can't seriously say that there ever was any official name change, there are so many fluctuations, that it just seems random.
I have no idea if Carl Johan stays with "Olson" or tries out "Olsen," or if he goes onto some of the many forms of Arkaas or Arkaasa etc., etc. --- however, his birth was recorded under the spelling, Arkasa.
Here is the birth record for the youngest child, the only son of Knud O. Arkaas:
Carl Johan (Arkasa/Arkose) Olson
b. April 6, 1878
Genealogy > Wisconsin Genealogy Index Home
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/vitalrecords/index.asp?id=2365945&record_type=b
Birth Record Details
Last Name:Arkasa
First Name:Carl J
Day:06
Month:April
Year:1878
County:Waupaca
Reel:302
Record:1144
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It is also possible that "Carl" became CHARLES, and that "Johan" became JOHN - as in Charles John Olson OR Charles John Olsen.
Also, it is possible that this is his SON, if he had a son, shown here below, having the first name Charles and using the surname, Arkose:
Monroe County MI Archives Photo Tombstone.....Arkose, Charles ...
Monroe County MI Archives Photo Tombstone.....Arkose, Charles & Margaret ... Image file size: 58.0 Kb
ARKOSE
Charles 1905-1980
Margaret 1917-1997
File at: ...ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mi/ monroe/photos/tombstones/bedford/arkose29467gph.txt
1. Charles ARKOSE - U.S. Social Security Death Index Birth: 21 Jan 1905 State Where Number was Issued: Michigan Death: Aug 1980
2. Margaret ARKOSE - U.S. Social Security Death Index Birth: 15 Mar 1917 State Where Number was Issued: Michigan Death: 24 Oct 1997
3. Charles ARKOSE - U.S. Social Security Death Index Birth: 21 Jan 1905 State Where Number was Issued: Michigan Death: Aug 1980
4. Margaret ARKOSE - U.S. Social Security Death Index Birth: 15 Mar 1917 State Where Number was Issued: Michigan Death: 24 Oct 1997
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ancestorsearchresults.asp
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