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mkptrsn
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 Posted - 29/05/2007 : 16:15:09
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Hello,
Looking for information on Johan Lampe, born in Trondheim in ca. 1819, and his father seemed to be named Johan Diedrich Lampe from Bremen, Germany.
I appreciate any help in my family search!
Mike |
Edited by - mkptrsn on 30/05/2007 01:38:27 |
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Jo Anne Sadler
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mkptrsn
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eibache
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 06:46:36
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Johan Henrick was born Febr 28 1819 and baptized April 27.
He was an "uægte" child i.e. born out of wedlock.
His father was Johan Didrick Lampe, a merchant from Bremen (Germany). The mother was Ingeborg Bergitha Einersen. She was lodging in Sanden at the Smiths.
Godparents at the baptism was Mdm. Wedahl, Mdm. Geets, girl Bergite Hagen, merchant Braun, merchant Ole Brifack and merchant P Baltov.
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Edited by - eibache on 05/11/2011 08:03:38 |
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mkptrsn
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 08:20:02
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Hi eibache,
Thanks for the translation. I'm surprised to see all those names like Smith, Wedahl, Geets, Braun, Brifack and Baltov. They must have been merchants of some sort. Does 'by Smith' mean that they were employed on the Sanden Farm by someone named Smith?
I looked through the parish records and found another birth/christening record of Johan's brother, Dedrik Bernhard Lampe. I was hoping it may shed some light on where the mother was from or her age, etc. This one is even more difficult to read, but I made out the word 'pigan' which I guess means that they still weren't married.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070921690357.jpg (#35, 19 Aug)
Thank you,
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eibache
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 18:08:39
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If you use the page link it will make zooming possible.
The record says that Didrick Bernhard was "uægte" - i.e. born out of wedlock. He was baptized at home by the midwife Mdm Hegge which was confirmed in church Oct 14 1821.
The mother Ingeborg Bergitha Einersdatter is still lodging at the Smiths, but now the name of the building is given - Griffs Gaard.
No new info on the father.
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Edited by - eibache on 07/11/2011 22:13:21 |
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eibache
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 22:51:56
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Jacob Andreas Lampe was born Febr 6 1822, his mother was Sofie Jacobine Teilberg - the father Didrick Lampe was away on business when he was baptized. See
#37.
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mkptrsn
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Posted - 09/11/2011 : 03:22:30
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Hello,
Thank you for translating the records and also finding Jacob! Johan Didrick is my 4th great-grandfather, and I really can't figure him out. I know he moved to Norway at some point from Bremen, and apparently had a few kids without ever marrying! I don't know whatever happened to him or Ingeborg Einersen. His son Johan Hendrick is my 3rd great-grandfather so I only know what happened to that family line. Trondheim seemed like a very cosmopolitan place back in 1820 - all those foreign names.
Again, thank you! And If you know of any other databases that I can search through to find out info about the Lampe's or this family, I would appreciate the tip!
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mkptrsn
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ToreL
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Posted - 21/05/2023 : 22:58:44
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| I believe the line below the name starts with paa (meaning on) and ending with Trondhjem. Place of residence in the last column looks like Rian, which is a local farm. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/05/2023 : 23:46:37
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 23/05/2023 : 04:08:50
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Hey Mike,
Created an entry for you in the Bremen Genealogy Forum. I know that the search for your German ancestors can be challenging, given the territorial changes, which affected the language spoken and written, as well as the profession, of some merchants being travelers. I will update you when I hear back. If not, I will go ahead and enlist a friend who conducts professional German genealogy.
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ToreL
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Posted - 23/05/2023 : 12:55:13
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| Kjøpmand Didrick Lampe from Bremen also had a daughter baptized in Trondhjem Cathedral i 1820: #72 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 23/05/2023 : 13:22:05
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| Counting Didricka above, the merchant from Bremen seems to have had offspring with at least three different women in Tronheim. Jacob Andreas' mother is called Sofie Jacobine Teilberg above, but in this part of the Geni-tree she is called Feilberg, and that by a user who (judging by his own last name) knows what he is talking about. |
Edited by - ToreL on 23/05/2023 13:23:15 |
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mkptrsn
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Posted - 25/05/2023 : 00:15:24
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Thank you for help translating the record. I also noticed that Dederik had 3 sons, a daughter Didrika, and 'Uekte' in 1821. I wasn't quite sure what to make of all of that. I wonder why they felt that they needed to write opfostring (offspring).
My direct line comes from his son Johan Henrik. I was able to locate all of Dederik Lampe's sons, but Didrika seems to be a mystery, she may have died as an infant.
Thank you Dylan! I appreciate you making that entry, I have always wondered about the Lampe connection in Bremen. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 25/05/2023 : 11:37:18
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| Opfostring (moderrn spelling oppfostring) approximately means upbringing. The term was often used in censuses etc. about children who were being taken care of by other people than their parents, but it is extremely rare to see the term used for people above confirmation age. That a 28 year old man was on opfostring probably means that he was physically or mentaly disabled. |
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Johan Lampe from Trondheim
