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Robert Vincent
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Posted - 19/06/2007 :  23:14:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi i am searching for any relatives of Ole Olsen ,i know he had at least one child Thomas Olsen who was born in Haus Hordaland in 1848. Thomas came over to the Uk and in 1876 he married Agnes Emma Cook they had four children one of which was Alice who was my grandmother it would be great to trace my Norwegian roots thanks!
Edited by - Robert Vincent on 21/06/2007 00:09:12

Lislcat
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Posted - 19/06/2007 :  23:36:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think your dates are off, because you have Thomas getting married, before he is even born.
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Lester Hanson
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Posted - 20/06/2007 :  02:23:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Thomas Olsen's date of birth is a typo for 1848, there is a person that matches this date in the 1865 census.

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f61246&gardpostnr=570&personpostnr=4827&merk=4827#ovre

Unfortunately he is not at home.

He is person number 4827.

Les
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Jo Anne Sadler
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USA
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Posted - 20/06/2007 :  02:23:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Olsen, now that's an unusual name.

The Haus church records are available online, there is a Help section to learn how to navigate:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_fylke=12&idx_kilde=Alle&idx_periode=&idx_textsearch=&js=j

If he left on or after 1874, he should most likely be listed in the Bergen list:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebMeta.exe?slag=vismeny&fylkenr=&knr=&aar=&dagens=&katnr=5&alle=true

The first thing you need to find is his baptism record, it would give more information, farm name, parents exact names and ages as well godparents. You could search around for siblings too.

Do you know his Mother's name?
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 20/06/2007 :  02:38:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That sure seems like the correct person as he is a blacksmith like his father.

This could be him in the church records, born December 26, 1848, baptised January 1, 1849:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?urnread_imagesize=full&info=ingen&hode=nei&show=19&uid=32569&js=j

It does not give parents name but the mother is Martha Johansdtr. I cannot understand the last word, looks like Hovien.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 20/06/2007 :  02:50:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This "could" be his parents in the 1865 census, something to keep as a possibility. Ole is not listed as a blacksmith, though it could be his secondary occupation:

1865
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 20/06/2007 :  06:43:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
His birthdate reads October 26, 1848.

Ole & Martha got married in 1847, so her farm of origin should be stated in that marriage record. It looks like Hovden, which is a farm in the area.

Jan Peter
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Robert Vincent
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Posted - 20/06/2007 :  23:42:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for your help Lester
quote:
Originally posted by Lester Hanson

If Thomas Olsen's date of birth is a typo for 1848, there is a person that matches this date in the 1865 census.

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f61246&gardpostnr=570&personpostnr=4827&merk=4827#ovre

Unfortunately he is not at home.

He is person number 4827.

Les
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Robert Vincent
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Posted - 20/06/2007 :  23:46:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for help Jo Anne that was great
quote:
Originally posted by Jo Anne Sadler

Ole Olsen, now that's an unusual name.

The Haus church records are available online, there is a Help section to learn how to navigate:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_fylke=12&idx_kilde=Alle&idx_periode=&idx_textsearch=&js=j

If he left on or after 1874, he should most likely be listed in the Bergen list:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebMeta.exe?slag=vismeny&fylkenr=&knr=&aar=&dagens=&katnr=5&alle=true

The first thing you need to find is his baptism record, it would give more information, farm name, parents exact names and ages as well godparents. You could search around for siblings too.

Do you know his Mother's name?
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Robert Vincent
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Posted - 20/06/2007 :  23:55:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks Jan Peter your info
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

His birthdate reads October 26, 1848.

Ole & Martha got married in 1847, so her farm of origin should be stated in that marriage record. It looks like Hovden, which is a farm in the area.

Jan Peter
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 21/06/2007 :  08:32:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole and Martha had a son Johannes born 1845, see #108 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8280&idx_id=8280&uid=ny&idx_side=-108
They probably got married before 1847 then.
Einar
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 21/06/2007 :  09:13:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was this record which said 1847, but I found other sources now which actually says 1851...

Strange if they married in 1851, taken into consideration Johannes' chr record from 1845, where he is listed as a legitimate child...

Ole Olsen, chr 22 Feb 1813, Thunes, Haus, Hordaland. Parents: Ole Magnesen & Anna Olsdatter
Marthe Johannesdatter, born 16 Dec 1822, chr 25 Dec 1822, Haus, Hordaland
Marriage: 16 Jun 1851, Haus, Hordaland Link1 Link2 Link3

The marriage record says R鷣land as birthplace for Marthe Johannesdatter, while in the birthrecord for her son Johannes her birthplace is listed as Hovden...

Could it be 2 different couples? Their age look right, comparing their age from the 1851 wedding record an the 1866 census from Thun犘 store.

Jan Peter
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eibache
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Posted - 21/06/2007 :  09:19:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There was more than one couple Ole Olsen and Martha Johannesdatter in Haus parish. Knowing that Thomas was born Oct 26 and that the Johannes above had parents with the same names it is most likely that the right "Ole" and "Martha" could be Olav Olavsen and Marta Johannesen found at a search in LDS - Olav was born 1805.
Their son Olav Olavsen - ie Ole Olsen can be found at Hovden in the 1865 census.
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Robert Vincent
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Posted - 22/06/2007 :  21:33:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there ,just to let you know the name Ole Olsen (blacksmith ) and father ,appears on Thomas Olsen's second marraige certificate to Harriet
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

There was more than one couple Ole Olsen and Martha Johannesdatter in Haus parish. Knowing that Thomas was born Oct 26 and that the Johannes above had parents with the same names it is most likely that the right "Ole" and "Martha" could be Olav Olavsen and Marta Johannesen found at a search in LDS - Olav was born 1805.
Their son Olav Olavsen - ie Ole Olsen can be found at Hovden in the 1865 census.
Edited by - Robert Vincent on 22/06/2007 21:35:23
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Robert Vincent
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Posted - 22/06/2007 :  22:20:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
can you explain why the parents susnames dont match up with Ole's and Martha's on the records, cheers Bob
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

It was this record which said 1847, but I found other sources now which actually says 1851...

Strange if they married in 1851, taken into consideration Johannes' chr record from 1845, where he is listed as a legitimate child...

Ole Olsen, chr 22 Feb 1813, Thunes, Haus, Hordaland. Parents: Ole Magnesen & Anna Olsdatter
Marthe Johannesdatter, born 16 Dec 1822, chr 25 Dec 1822, Haus, Hordaland
Marriage: 16 Jun 1851, Haus, Hordaland Link1 Link2 Link3

The marriage record says R鷣land as birthplace for Marthe Johannesdatter, while in the birthrecord for her son Johannes her birthplace is listed as Hovden...

Could it be 2 different couples? Their age look right, comparing their age from the 1851 wedding record an the 1866 census from Thun犘 store.

Jan Peter
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 22/06/2007 :  22:55:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a number of excellent online articles which explain Norwegian naming patterns - including one excellent article from this website entitled "Those Norwegian Names"
http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na12.html
http://www.uib.no/hi/nameprac.htm
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