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Tessat
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 Posted - 20/06/2007 : 06:15:48
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I am trying to find any info about John Marcus Enersen born c 1869 Christiana Norway He was a sailmaker He married Sarah Franklin in Rotorua NZ 31/7/1895.His parents were given as Christian Enersen Carpenter and Marcu Morteuseu Moree
Regards Tess |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 20/06/2007 : 14:17:03
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| Are you dealing with a handwritten record? It is more likely that his mother's name was more like Maren Mortensen... where what appears to be the letter u is actually an n. |
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Tessat
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Posted - 21/06/2007 : 02:04:05
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| Thank you I am working from a handwritten copy of his marriage cert and that should make it a great deal easier to trace |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/06/2007 : 10:11:17
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A possibility in the 1865 census for Christiania:
Christian Enersen (31), carpenter , born Wekkerø (Vækerø, Oslo)
Marn Iversdr (25), wife, born Ringerige (Ringerike, Buskerud)
If this is the same Maren, she could have taken the lastname Mortensen from her father.
Maren, illegitimate child. Father Iver Mortensen Sæter, mother Marie Iversdatter Nøklebye.
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 21/06/2007 10:46:09 |
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Tessat
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Australia
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Posted - 21/06/2007 : 10:46:57
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Thank you for the info. It certainly could be the right people.
Could you please give me an Internet address for the Norwegian census as I would like to check for any siblings and or any other information on these people who are my great great grandparents.Also could you explain how she might have taken her last name from her father ?
regards Tess |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 11:12:20
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Have you tried clicking on the links given in the posting?
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 12:30:54
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Actually we've seen no proof that Maren ever used her father's patronymic name. The only mention of it has been on her son's Australian or NZ marriage papers? or other documents... Perhaps he was trying to utilize typical 'English' naming patterns.
Did she also go to Australia or NZ? |
Edited by - Hopkins on 21/06/2007 12:44:31 |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 21/06/2007 : 18:25:47
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Recommend you read the article on this site, Those Norwegian Names. Also, there are several links here to guide you to sites about doing Basic Norwegian Research, understanding what is available, etc.
There are also links to Norwegian Dictionaries but his is the best one I have found for reading older records:
http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 25/06/2007 : 20:46:14
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Available scanned records show these ancestors:
Mari Iversdatter was born March 9 1821 and baptized April 29 in Norderhov church #49 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8536&idx_id=8536&uid=ny&idx_side=-39, her parents being Iver Poulsen and Sigrid Olsdatter, Rognerudeie
In 1841 Marie, born at Nøkleby, had an “uægte” daughter Maren – father being Iver Mortensen, Sæter. Godfathers were Marte Iversdatter Nøkleby, Mathea Helgesdatter Hønefos, Marie Iversdatter Sæter (the mother), Ole Iversen Nøkleby, Ole Poulsen Sæter and Iver Mortensen Sæter (the father)
Iver Mortensen was baptized March 28 1813 in Houg church. His parents were Morten Olsen Knæstangeie and Kari Henrichsdatter. See http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8527&idx_id=8527&uid=ny&idx_side=-12
Marie Iversdatter 29 was married to Carl Helgesen 44 Rognerudeie March 4 1850 #10 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8537&idx_id=8537&uid=ny&idx_side=-291 Her father was Iver Poulsen, His father was Helge Carlsen. Best men were Peder Simensen and Poul Iversen Rognerudeie.
Carl Helgesen was confirmed Sept 9 1922 and was then 17 years old. His parents were Helge (Carlsen) and Ingri Støvern.
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Edited by - eibache on 25/06/2007 20:47:21 |
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Tessat
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Posted - 26/06/2007 : 07:51:17
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Thank you for all your valuable help It has made my search a great deal easier There is not a great deal of information available in Australia about Norway and I cant find any relatives living who would be able to give me any relevent information.
Would it be possible to find out any information on Christian Enersen"s family He was born in Wekkero Oslo in approx 1834.
Regards Tessat |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2007 : 16:12:40
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You'll be glad to know that the church records for the various Oslo congregations are scanned to digital format and available for FREE use by anyone with Internet access.
Go to the Digitalarkivet website (you'll probably want English entry point)
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar&spraak=e
Click on either link to the "Digitized parish registers" and be sure to study the good instructions given under "Users guide" |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2007 : 19:13:07
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If you look at the 1865 census link that Jan Peter provided, Wekkero is actually Vækerø, and that parish is not included on the online parish records.
I cannot find any information on Vækerø, maybe it was combined with another parish. |
Edited by - Jo Anne Sadler on 26/06/2007 19:14:07 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Tessat
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 08:24:31
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Thank you for all your help.
Could anyone tell me if people migrating to New Zealand came by a direct ship or had to go to England first.I have not been able to find John Enersen on any migration lists.Also no info on his birth or any siblings. |
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