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6163esd
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 Posted - 07/07/2007 : 19:40:03
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| Grandfather Oliver O. Nelson (in USA) born abt 1851 in Strand parish, Rogaland, Stavanger, reportedly imigrated to USA about 1861. At 10 years of age, he must of been accompanied by someone or destined for Kendall Co. Illinois, USA. Name may have been Nielsen in Holte Farm area. Looking for information on family or Oliver. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 01:45:06
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How close to 1851 can you prove his birth? 'About' can mean different things to different people.
The church records (1853) for Strand parish of Rogaland do indicate a birth/baptism record for a Johannes Olsen of Holte farm in Strand. His father is listed as Ole Nielsen and mother as Siri Halvorsdtr. Perhaps he might be a member of the same family.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6347&idx_id=6347&uid=ny&idx_side=-55
There is a beautiful series of bygdeboks for Strand - have you checked those yet? I saw them in the library at Salt Lake City.
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6163esd
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 21:29:38
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Reply to Hopkins response.
Birth date of 1851 is a close as I can find. He |
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6163esd
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 21:39:05
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Reply to Hopkins response:
1851 is only date I have. An IGI record(Batch No M012399) indicated his mothers name might have been Sirej Holdersdatter Bohlan, and his fathers name Ole Nelson Rolfe(?). I don't know where the Rolfe may have come from, I'd rather think it was miss read from Holte.
Olivers wedding license, Feb 8 1882, LaSalle Co. Il., said his father name was Ole Nelson ______ (illegible).
He was about 14 years older than his bride, Johanna Knudson from Aardal, Sverberghorten farm near Hjelmeland, Norway.
I've heard of bygdbok, but don't have access to such. Thanks |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 23:21:23
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I highly recommend joining this organization, for $8.00 membership per year, they will help you with your research and have Strand farm books:
http://www.rogalandslag.org/ |
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6163esd
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 00:24:13
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Thanks JoAnn, I've printed the application and will submit.
I'm only worried about having to learn to read Norweign at my age. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 00:33:27
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Just trying to sort out some possibilities since no birth- or emigration records has been found for Oliver, and to keep all options open.
- Great advantage for you since there was not many with firstname Oliver in Norway 1851.
- Sirej Holdersdatter is more likely Siri Halvorsdatter.
- Rolfe(?) confuse me, e might stand for eie (owned by), a cotters place under a farm named Rolf....e(eie), or perhaps a wrong spelling as you
suggested.
- Oliver was born in another parish but grew up in Strand.
Kċre
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6163esd
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 04:40:12
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Kaarto:
Thanks.
Oliver may be a name assumed after arriving in America. The last name may also been Nielsen. Some say the suffix "sen" is more Swedish use than Norweign?
I guess not all ships provided a manifest of their passengers that were leaving Stavanger.
If not Strand parish, where?
Thanks again. Marv
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eibache
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eibache
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 11:33:20
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Oliver may be a name assumed after arriving in America.
That particular IGI batch was information taken entirely from marriage records in Illinois - therefore a prior name change was quite likely - or even a complete mispelling of it. His name might even have been Halvor in Norway; true, it might not start with the same letter as we usually guess they will, but it has other similarities.
What worries me is that I can't find that Oliver Nelson in the US census in 1880 Illinois.
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I guess not all ships provided a manifest of their passengers that were leaving Stavanger.
Early Stavanger emigration records were destroyed in a fire. The database available was rebuilt from sources as otherwise available and can never be considered complete. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 15:32:19
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In the 1900 US census Oliver and Johanna are farming in Mercer Co. Missouri. He lists his birth as April 1851 in Norway, she lists hers as June 1863 in Norway. Of the 6 children still living with them they lists births in Illinois, Iowa and finally Missouri. Immigration years were left blank on that page.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 16:02:39
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From the moving out register at Strand parish, 20 Apr 1861:
Ole Nielsen Holte, 49 yo, destination America
Niels Olsen, 06 Aug 1844
Halvor Olsen, 12 Apr 1850
Johannes Olsen, 10 Feb 1853. (A twin with Marthe Ingeborg Anna. She died 25 Mar 1853)
Marthe Olsen, 19 Nov 1856. Should have been 19 Jan 1856
Looks like the Halvor mentioned above is your Oliver.
Ole Nielsen's wife Siri Halvorsdatter Holte (46) died on 02 Jan 1860.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 10/07/2007 13:22:52 |
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6163esd
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 16:32:32
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It does appear that "Halvor" was maybe Oliver after coming to the USA. The pronounciation is similar. A lot of the data you folks have furnished fits Halvor/Oliver and is very convincing.
I believe in 1880, Oliver was living with a family named Elias Thorson, and was identified as a boarder. I don't know if Elias was a relative or not.
Thanks for the help. |
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6163esd
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 16:40:22
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Jan Peter
I was going to ask how the ID picked the name Halvor Olsen, then it dawned on me it came from being the son of Ole.
Looks like the whole family immigrated in 1861. Any leads as to what ship they sailed on and port of destination?
Thanks again |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 16:50:10
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Yes, Olsen because he was the son of Ole.
Widower Ole Nielsen and his 3 sons Niels, Halvor & Johannes, plus daughter Marthe are all registered as moving out of the Strand parish on 20 Apr 1861. No leads as to what ship they sailed on or port of destination. A guess would be Quebec, which was the most common destination at that time.
Jan Peter
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Oliver Nelson, Strand, Holte Farm 1862
