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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 09/07/2007 : 17:14:40
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Still some ifs, but until Oliver is found all options must be kept open, perhaps look into other parish´s.
The em. records from Stavanger 1825-1970 shows 57 persons with firstname Oliver, so he was likely christened Oliver.
Oliver O. Nelson (Nielsen) was likely christened Oliver Olsen, but took his fathers initials(if Ole Nielsen was his father) and changed to Oliver O. Nielsen.
Is Halvor used as first name in USA?
The -sen ending is Norwegian or Danish, the -son ending in Scandinavia is Swedish.
We must go back to the middelage or vikingage to find the -son ending in Norway.
Here is a map showing all the parish´s in Rogaland. Strand is east of Stavanger across the fjord.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/rogaland.html
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Edited by - Kċarto on 09/07/2007 17:23:22 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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6163esd
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 21:21:23
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I haven't noticed Halvor as being in common use in the USA.
Thanks for the tips, map and leads. I can now start looking for other family members of Ole Nelson.
It was interesting to see that my grandparents were from the same neighborhood(Ardal and Strand). However, they didn't marry until 20 years later and in a different country.
Regarding the christening as Oliver, wouldn't the farm name "Holte" tie him to Strand?
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 22:00:09
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A christening as Oliver? Did I miss some that showed evidence of that in all our posts here? I know my eyes are weak ....
You can find farms named Holte (now Holta I think) in many different parts of Norway. That isn't a secure LONE piece of info to use. But I don't feel the possible link to Strand is that tenuous -- I think it still looks like your best place to start.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 22:02:13
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| Holte is a common name on farms in Norway - at least some 27 farms are listed - 3 of these are in Rogaland - Strand, Helleland and Vikedal. I have not found any Oliver born in 1850 - 1852 in either of the comunities in question. |
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Kċarto
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Norway
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6163esd
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 00:15:53
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Oliver said on his marriage license in 1882, he was born in Stavanger, Norway. Would that reduce the number of "Holte" or "Holta" farms to the Strand area only?
Remarkable research, thanks. |
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6163esd
Starting member
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 03:04:13
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kaarto/kare
The "Emigranter fre Stavanger 1825-70" was very interesting and valuable documentation.
Is there a similar document available for the year 1881, I believe, when my grandmother emigrated from her home in Ardal, Sverberghorten farm, near Hjelmsland, Norway. Her name was Johanna Knudtdatter and her birthday was June 3, 1863. Thanks |
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6163esd
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 03:08:31
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Not sure if he was confirmed as Halvor and then changed to Oliver O. Nielsen. Haven't had much luck tracing his whereabouts in the USA until his marriage in 1882.
I have the Heritage data now, so that will help my search.
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eibache
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Norway
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 12:49:56
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As said in a previous reply from Hopkins, the Stavanger emigration records were destroyed in a fire, and the database was rebuilt from different sources available. And among them, one of the most valuable sources was the moving out registers from the different parish'es in the district.
And I think that is the case with the Emigrant link from Kċre above.
I believe the records of Ole Nielsen and his 4 children in the "Emigranter fra Stavanger 1825-1970" database are just a transcript from the Strand parish churchbook which I linked to yesterday.
Even Marthe's birthdate have the same error. She is born January 19, not November 19.
I agree that the Bark Hebe arriving Quebec on June 8 1861 is a good possibility though.
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6163esd
Starting member
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 13:31:04
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Thanks Jan and eibache
The "Emigranter" record of Johanne and Knud would have been my great grandmother and uncle(Knud). Johanna was born in 1863 and immigrated earlier, perhaps in 1880 pr 1881. She was in America and got married 8 Feb 1882.
Is there an earlier record?
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jalaemmons
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Posted - 17/08/2014 : 14:13:36
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I just came across your messages. Perhaps I can help. Halvor, later Oliver, was my great grand uncle. His little sister, Marta, was my ggrandmother. Oliver married Johanna Knudsdotter in LaSalle County, IL on 8 Feb 1882 and later relocated to Mercer, Missouri. He died in Missouri in 1907.
I have not been able to find any record of their father, Ole Nielsen (and various other spellings) after he arrived in Lisbon, IL in 1861. His daughter, Marta, was confirmed and married in the Lutheran Church in Lisbon. So did Ole die shortly after immigrating or did he relocate?
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/08/2014 : 17:30:16
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From the ELCA database of funerals at archives.com here is a long shot for Ole Nielsen, Bethany Lutheran church at Gardner, Illinois:
Name carried as Ole Nilsen
age 80 years
died 13 Mar 1894 funeral 14 April 1894 |
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jalaemmons
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Posted - 19/07/2015 : 20:12:10
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Halvor (Oliver) Olsen (12 April 1850 - 1907)) was my great uncle. His younger sister Marta (Martha) was my ggrandmother. Their father, Ole Nielsen (4 October 1812 - ?) was widowed twice in Norway. His first wife was Ingeborg Andersdotter and his second wife (Halvor' s mother) was Siri Halvorsdotter. After Siri died Ole immigrated in 1861 with his 4 surviving children to Lisbon, IL. My best information shows Halvor born on Holte farm, Strand, Rogaland, Norway and baptised on 19 May 1850. He married Johanna Knudsdotter on 8 February 1882 in LaSalle County, IL. He died in Mercer, Missouri. I have been trying to find out what happened to Ole after arriving in Lisbon, with no luck. I am happy to share any information I have on this family.
Jan Emmons
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Oliver Nelson, Strand, Holte Farm 1862
