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jsimon132
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  01:31:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am interested in my family name of Smestuen (USA). It may be spelled Smedstuen in Norway. Thanks for any help!

John Smestuen

jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  03:34:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
In 1865, the farmname Smedstuen/Smestuen can be found in 31 different municipalities in Norway.
Do you have any clue where your ancestors came from?

Akershus
  • Vestre Aker
  • Østre Aker
  • Urskaug
  • Sørum
  • Lørenskoven
  • Skedsmo
  • Ullensager
  • Næs
  • Ejdsvold
  • Nannestad


Hedmark
  • Næs
  • Ringsaker
  • Vang
  • Stange
  • Brandvold
  • Vaaler
  • Aamot
  • Rendalen


Oppland
  • Lesja
  • Vaage
  • Øyer
  • Fåberg
  • Birid
  • Vardal
  • Østre Toten
  • Vestre Toten
  • Jevnaker
  • Gran


Vestfold
  • Sande


Nord-Trøndelag
  • Verdal
  • Sparbo




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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  03:35:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are/were farms called Smestuen (and spelling variations on that) in at least 6 major areas of Norway (and many smaller districts within those major areas).
What are the names of the family members who came from Smestuen, when were they born, when did they leave Norway?

Edited by - Hopkins on 11/07/2007 03:36:08
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  04:03:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I only notice ONE head of household named Smestuen in US censuses who lists a birthplace of Norway. Ole Smestuen in Dunn Co. WIS, 1910. Lists himself as 27 yrs old and gives immigration year as 1902.
This Ole Smestuen is also in the WorldConnect databases on Rootsweb as Ole O. Smestuen, Birth: 27 Dec 1882 in Norway , Immigration: 1902, Death: Feb 1975 in Wheeler, Dunn County, Wisconsin.

Is this the Smestuen family being sought?
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jsimon132
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  15:21:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, Ole Smestuen is my grandfather and he lived in Dunn County Wisconsin USA. I am not sure which of his brothers or sisters came to the USA with him or separately. I believe that Ingeborg, Anders, Albert and Martin might have been here too. I am interested in how he arrived here....his route and the ship he may have been on. Thanks for the help!

John

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Jo Anne Sadler
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USA
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  18:32:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are articles and other help on this site on ships, routes, etc. Look at the Index of Departures and Arrivals to see where/how Norwegian Immigrants were getting to North America at that time.

For $27. you can get a copy of Ole's Social Security Application, it would have ALOT of information including his place of birth and parents names. You can access this on the free Rootsweb.com database and print out a form letter.

He is in Dunn County in the 1920 and 1930 census, all indicate immigration year as 1902. Amanda went by Manda.

On September 11, 1918 he registered for the World War I draft, his application states his name is Ole Olson Smestuen, born December 27, 1892, not naturalized, wife Manda, short, slight build, blue eyes, light hair, farmer.


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Jo Anne Sadler
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USA
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  18:49:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Olsen Smeatuen, was naturalized in Dunn County, Wisconsin on July 30, 1941, #971.

http://ezproxy.uwstout.edu/ics-wpd/findgaid1/index.shtml

You can obtain a copy of his naturalization papers and it will include a wealth of information including his picture, ship he can on, place of birth, etc.
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  19:12:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The farm was likely named Smedstuen:
Smiths stove/cabin, the recidence of a smith or black smith.

The letter d when you pronounce Smedstuen in Norwegian is "dumb", Smestuen is the verbal pronunciation..

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 12/07/2007 00:01:54
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  19:29:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could this be your Granfather?

Ole Smedstuen from Holtålen in Sør Trøndalad county, em. via Trondheim in Sør Trøndelag March 12. 1902, dest Pipstone Minnesota.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7&filnamn=EMITROND&gardpostnr=98045&merk=98045#ovre

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 11/07/2007 20:40:01
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Hopkins
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  21:37:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most all of the 'Smestuen' farms were from the area closer to Oslo - rather than north around Trondheim. No 'Smestuen' farm in Holtålen Sør-Trøndelag.

BUT the 1900 Norwegian census for Holtålen shows a man who is identified as Ole Johnsen Smedstuen, from Gudbrandsdalen Krs (Oppland) and he lists children by the names of John, Ole, Anders, Ingebr... etc. The son Ole listed with birth year of 1882.
1900 on Flootberg farm

John, you appear to have more information about the family that you haven't shared - so perhaps you can match one or two of these listed siblings.

Well done Kåre. I never thought to check Trondheim emigration protocol after seeing where the vast majority of farms with that name were located.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  21:41:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Ole Smedstuen who emigrated via Trondheim 1902 was your grandfather.
He must the same Ole Smestuen Hopkins pointed out above.

Ole Olsen Smedstuen born Des. 27. 1882 in Holtåsaen municipality, nr 2.
His father Ole Johnsen Smedstuen born 1855 was working at the railroad and his mother Maret Olsdatter born 1857 was from farm Prestrønning
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6512&idx_id=6512&uid=ny&idx_side=-19

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 12/07/2007 00:11:57
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Hopkins
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  21:44:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you search the database for emigrants from Trondheim for persons with last name containing "Smedstu" - it will show you 5 total entries. Two departures for Ole O., and others for John, Ingebrigt, and Martin. -- all heading for locations in Minnesota between 1901 and 1913.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~stromgen/digitalarkivet/Tips/Tips.htm

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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  22:18:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You have not said anything about your knowledge of Oles roots in Norway - anyway he is here, #2 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6512&idx_id=6512&uid=ny&idx_side=-19
His father Ole Johnsen born 1855 was working on the railroad and came from Smedstuen (I would prefer translation to blacksmith cottage) and his mother Maret Olsdatter born 1857 was from the place where they rented rooms in 1883 (Prestrønning)
Their child Anders is #8 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6512&idx_id=6512&uid=ny&idx_side=-27
Ingebrigt is #6 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6512&idx_id=6512&uid=ny&idx_side=-36
Marit is #5 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6512&idx_id=6512&uid=ny&idx_side=-41
Ingeborg is #6 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4382&idx_id=4382&uid=ny&idx_side=-4
Martin #3 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4382&idx_id=4382&uid=ny&idx_side=-7
Anna #14 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4382&idx_id=4382&uid=ny&idx_side=-13
Olaf #3 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4382&idx_id=4382&uid=ny&idx_side=-17 (he died in 1899)


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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  22:22:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All of them, at lest four, you did find in the emigration records in Trondheim are brothers from Smedsrud/Flotberg in Holtålen Hopkins.

They also had a brother Martin and three sisters, Marit, Ingeborg and Anna, father Ole worked on the railway tracks for the NSB company and mother Marit in the house. John and Ole worked as miners.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=24&filnamn=f01645&gardpostnr=22&personpostnr=150&merk=150#ovre

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 12/07/2007 17:32:34
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Kåarto
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  00:39:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is most likely Marit Olsdatter´s father, only church records can give the final evidence.

Widower Ole Olsen Prestrønning born 1826 living as "Føderaadsmand" on farm Prestrønning.
He was earlier owner of Prestrønning and when he handed over the farm to his son Peder Olsen Præstrønning he set up a contract which gave him free food and a room (Føderaad) for the rest of his life.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=11&filnamn=f01645&gardpostnr=49&merk=49#ovre

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 12/07/2007 11:35:04
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jsimon132
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  02:51:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank You for all this information! I am very grateful...and will follow up with all these suggestions! Thanks Again! John Smestuen

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