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kallio
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USA
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Posted - 30/07/2007 :  04:34:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am having trouble finding my way and am hoping someone can lend some assistance.

I am looking for the family of Isak Aslaksen Guddal, emigrating from Kristiansand, Norway 25 June, 1891 (http://tinyurl.com/37937).

If I understand the process, there are two ships they could have been on, the S/S Juno (5) or the Thingvalla. Am I correct that these are “feeder” ships, and they would have sailed another ship from Hull to the United States?

If so, I am not sure how to figure out what ship that may have been. From the Juno (5) line I can click a link to see corresponding ships, but there isn’t a link for the Thingvalla.

I hate to ask so many questions, but I have spent quite a bit of time confusing myself here and need a little help getting “unraveled.” My goal is to figure out the ship they would have sailed and then scroll through the passenger list. Tusen takk for any help!
Cheers – Kalli

From the digitalarkivet:
1891 Juni 25 2506 Isak Aslaksen m G Gaardbruger 52 Tonstad S. Minnesota Norge
1891 Juni 25 2506 Inger Sofi Aslaksen f G Hustru 44 Tonstad S.
1891 Juni 25 2506 Astrid Aslaksen f U 21 Tonstad S.
1891 Juni 25 2506 Tonette Aslaksen f U 10 Tonstad S.
1891 Juni 25 2506 Bertha Aslaksen f U 8 Tonstad S.
1891 Juni 25 2506 Aslak Aslaksen m U 6 Tonstad S.
1891 Juni 25 2506 Martha Aslaksen f U 4 Tonstad S.

Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 30/07/2007 :  06:50:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, you sure have tried to figure it out. Here is the link:

click here

It doesn't list the line, I cannot figure out what Utlending means, my dictionary say foreigner.

I have check the Ancestry.com datebase but could not find anything. That does not mean it isn't there, I just could not find it. If you look at the Index of Arrivals here, they could have gone into several ports, including Canadian ones.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 30/07/2007 :  06:57:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the link to the Canadian passenger lists, there is no index, you search by year and then figure out that they might have arrived about 10-20 days later. A little tedious but alot easier than the old days:

Lists

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kallio
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USA
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Posted - 30/07/2007 :  16:57:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jo Anne –

Thanks for your help and the link to the Canadian site. I will have a little scroll through it and see if I can find them ;). I had the digitalarkivet site, but it looks like my tinyurl link didn’t go through.

I am still a little confused regarding the ships. Were the Juno (5) and Thingvalla the only two ships they could have been on (given the departure date) and were those considered “feeder” ships?
If they were feeder ships, there is a link to other ships on the Juno (5) page, but not for the Thingvalla. Is there another way to look for these long-voyage ships?

Thanks again for your help. :)
Kalli
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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 30/07/2007 :  17:15:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The S/S Thingvalla was not a feeder ship, you will find more information about the ships and the line on this web site, you can start with the Thingvalla Line history and description page, where you will find links to other pages with information. Regarding the S/S June you are correct in assuming it was a feeder. It sailed between Scandinavian ports and Hull. It was owned and operated by the Wilson Line. I suspect that you are mixing up the two cities "Christiansand" and "Christainsund". The more likely ship if they did not go by the S/S Thingvalla would be a feeder to Hamburg from Christansand, see the route of the S/S Kong Ring here. It had a departure on June 27, and the date on the Digitalarkivet could actually be the date when they signed the contract, and not the actual departure date. However, the S/S Thingvalla is the ship I would check first, then perhaps the Hamburg Amerika Line and NDL ships with arrival dates 2 - 3 weeks after their departure from Norway.

Børge Solem
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kallio
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USA
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Posted - 31/07/2007 :  02:49:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Børge for your advice.

I was able to find the passenger list (on Ancestry.com) for the Thingvalla, arriving July 9, 1891 (this is a day after the one listed on this site). I have checked the 7 page list many times, but have not found my ancestors.

I am unable to figure out where to view or get microfilm for the Kong Ring ship. "Kong Ring" does not come up on Ancestry and I couldn't find a place to find passenger lists on Google.

I hope I am not asking too many questions, but I am genuinely confused by all the ways to search the ship's lists. I have only tried to find someone once before and had to give up that search for the time after many long days of searching through passenger lists :) I am trying to learn how to search better as I go along.

Thank you again for you help. If you know of a place to find the S/S Kong Ring lists, I would be so happy to know.

Cheers - Kalli
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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 31/07/2007 :  04:04:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, if you read what I actually wrote, you will realize that Kong Ring was a feeder for Hamburg, and if you read what it says on the page where the link leads you, the route of the ship will stand out quite clearly. It also states that most passengers proceeded from Germany on the Hamburg America Line or North German Lloyd ships. When you click the little wheel by the name of the ship you will see a page of connecting ships and can narrow your search for the actual passenger list. You will see that an arrival to Baltimore is a possibility.

Børge Solem
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