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tlwright65
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 Posted - 23/08/2007 : 20:38:01
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Well, we already know that 2 of the marriages for Anna couldn't have happened since they were before the time she arrived! Narrows it down a little!!
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tlwright65
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Posted - 23/08/2007 : 20:46:50
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| The closest Anna is the one that married Nels Nelson. Same emigration date, the only thing different was the birthdate. In the 1900 census, it shows as Nov 1867, not Dec 1867....not that that is such a big deal. |
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NIBO
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Posted - 23/08/2007 : 21:09:46
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I guess Anna Petterson arriving Feb 27, 1893 to New York could be right, but in Swedish records it says she left for Chicago. Could she have changed the arrival port on the way? Was there no rule to pay a ticket to a specific city?
How could they both buy a ticket to Chicago if the ships sailed to New York?
Age 25 and last place of residence Gothenberg (Gothemburg) is acceptable - as the name (Persdotter is often changed to Persson, or in some cases even Pettersson - I have seen worse!).
"Your" Anna is arriving on the ship Etruria and she lists her destination as Michigan - possibly Michigan City, Indiana - not far from Chicago.
Anna returns to Sweden in 1906 - i just found out - and she was not married!! But her sister Maria is still in US by that time - that's all we know so far.
So, where did Maria go after reaching...well, any arrival port in 1889? Did she stay in Michigan City, Indiana? Did Anna visit her sister (1893) before she went home 1906?
Was Maria married in US?
If so it was after 1899 - when she is mentioned as unmarried in the swedish records!! Her father died and both sisters are mentioned unmarried - but no town (or country) is named.
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Edited by - NIBO on 23/08/2007 21:15:18 |
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tlwright65
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Posted - 23/08/2007 : 21:29:31
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Hi! New York, Philadelphia, and Boston were the main ports they docked at, usually, before setting out to their destinations.
Thank you for the update on Anna. At least we know she was not married by the 1900 census.
We'll keep searching!! |
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Edited by - tlwright65 on 23/08/2007 21:37:25 |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 23/08/2007 : 21:44:55
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Are you saying that Anna moved back to Sweden for good, in 1906?
As Tami was saying, the destination listed, is where they finally hope to settle, not the port that they came into.
So there is a possibility that both were still married in the 1900 census.
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Lislcat
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Posted - 23/08/2007 : 21:51:09
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Do either of them have middle names or middle initials?
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Lislcat
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Posted - 23/08/2007 : 22:15:26
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| Did they have an occupation, such as a cook, seamstress, etc....? |
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NIBO
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Posted - 23/08/2007 : 22:48:29
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No middle names. They were both maids ("pigor" in swedish).
Maria was born i Persby and her sister Anna was born in By, both villages in Sunne "county".
Anna came to live with their third sister Karolina (in 1906), my grandfathers grandmother, married in north of Sweden. There is a fourth sister, Kristina, also married in north of Sweden. When the other sisters went north Maria and Anna moved "west"...and as I said, Anna is home 1906.
Maybe Maria ended up in Sweden as well, but she has not been found yet...ANYWHERE!
Even if they both came home, it's interesting to find out where they lived "over there"!!! |
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Edited by - NIBO on 23/08/2007 22:49:44 |
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NIBO
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NIBO
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Posted - 23/08/2007 : 23:34:12
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By the way there are some interesting roots a bit further back by the mother of these sisters: connections to famous swedes like Gustaf Fröding, Selma Lagerlöf, Ingmar Bergman and Buzz Aldrin!
If you follow the father on the other side...you'll find Per Jönsson killed in 1637 by his brother Jöns (in selfdefence) in Sunne!
If there are any relatives alive in US today they have some good news waiting...
Special link |
Thanks for helping me out! |
Edited by - NIBO on 23/08/2007 23:48:32 |
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NIBO
Starting member
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 22:43:13
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Could anyone check if there is a Maria P:Son travelling on Rollo to Chicago in 1889?
Persdotter could have been changed to Person, Persson, P:son, P:dotter...and almost anything...beginning with P!
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NIBO
Starting member
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 22:46:46
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| By the way...Maria P:Son travelled from Oslo and she had 1959 or 1960 as birth year. |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 23:11:22
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The Rollo was a feeder ship that she would of taken from Oslo to Hull, England. Then she would of taken another ship to one of the US or Canadian ports, such as New York, Philadelphia, Boston, Quebec, etc... So you are looking for her on two different ship lists.
I'll look and see what I can find.
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NIBO
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 23:21:19
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I have read about the stay in Hull and the train to Southampton or Liverpool...but not about next ship...
When I look at Ancestry there is a Maria P:Son fitting in - but I cannot read the details, as a non-member... |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 11/09/2007 : 17:21:11
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I believe I found her on the S/S Germanic. This site says that it arrived in New York on February 28, 1889, but Ancestry has it listed as arriving New York on March 1, 1889. Just a day apart!
They also listed her as being from Norway, which wouldn't of been a stretch, because she came through Kristiania.
Maria Person, age 29, female, servant, destination is listed as USA.
Right before the group of Norwegians that she's listed with, is a large group from Sweden. I've seen it many times where they get the different Scandinavian countries mixed up and sometimes they will just list them as Scandinavian, so you have to be careful if you've put Sweden in the "Origin" section. I was putting Sweden into my searches and not finding her. Then I gave up with that technique and decided to look at the ship's passenger list for the possible connection with the Rollo and got lucky.
If you'd like a copy of the passenger list, just click on Lislcat at the side and it will take you to my profile. Then send me an e-mail, so I have you e-mail address and I can send it to you.
Take Care, Wanda
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Sisters from Sweden lost in Chicago!!
