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TLarson
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 Posted - 03/10/2007 : 00:54:56
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| I am trying to figure out the name of the ship my great great grandfather came to America on. His name was Anders Larson. He changed his name when he came to America to Larson so before he came it would have been Anders Klukken or Anders Holmli. He came in 1882 from the Verdal region and he came to Minnesota. |
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Hopkins
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eibache
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Posted - 03/10/2007 : 19:49:36
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It looks like Anders actually was the son of Lars and thereby was named Anders Larsen in Norway. On the emigrant list it says that he was 20 years old in 1882 and came from Verdal. No Anders Larsen has been found born in 1882, but #20 here is most likely the birth record for your great great grandfather. His parents Lars Andersen and Maria Olsdatter were living at the farm Kluken when he was born.
Anders can also be found in the 1865 census see here and note that he had a younger brother - most likely Ole Larsen registered as 29566 on the emigrant list. His birth record is #53 and his full name is Ole Martin. The parents then lived on the farm Holmlivald. You will find them as #31 and 32 here moving out of Verdal. |
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Edited by - eibache on 03/10/2007 20:03:55 |
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TLarson
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Posted - 03/10/2007 : 21:14:42
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| Anders was born March 17, 1860 and yes His parents names were Lars and Maria and it makes sense that they would have moved to the Holmlivald farm later. Anders did have a brother Ole who came to America at one time also. |
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TLarson
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Posted - 03/10/2007 : 21:31:46
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| When I looked at the digitalarkivet I saw both Anders and Ole leaving in 1882 and they are listed as going to West Union, MN and that is where they went so that would be them! |
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eibache
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Posted - 03/10/2007 : 21:35:12
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Parish records for the birth of Anders parents is not readily available, but the confirmation record for Anders father Lars Andersen is #6 he was born at Kluken farm in 1825 and his parents were Anders Johannesen and Bereth Baardsdatter.
Lars married Maria Jan 11 1859, see #1
Maria Olsdatters confirmation record is #18 She was born Nov 21 1835 and the parents were Ole Ephastsen and Martha Baardsdatter at the Holmlivald farm.
You will find Ole in the 1865 census here his wife is recorded as Bereth, but that should have been Martha of course! |
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TLarson
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 21:14:34
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| Is it possible to find specific dates for when Anders grandparents would have been born and when they died? I have some years, but I would like specifics if at all possible. I am also wondering about dates for Anders' wife's parents. Her name was Anne Hansdtr Langdal and she was born June 26, 1859. Here parents names were Hans Arntsen Langdalen Lillie b. 1823 but I don't know a death year and her mother Mali Andosdtr b. 1833 and d. 1887. Any specifics that could be found I would greatly appreciate! |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 22:18:49
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Anders grandfather was also an Anders, son of Johan. In the 1801 census we can find Anders Johansen at the Kluken farm - possibly this is the right Anders and he was then 2 years - reasonable for being a father of a child born in 1825, see here.
Anders father was Johan Bentsen, 30 years old and his mother Marithe Amundsdatter 23 years.
The birth record for Anders is #4 from the top left hand page easy readable. A note with a question mark says he married April 8 1824 - which again sounds reasonable. Another note says he died Dec 21 1870, see #1
Correction! This is not the right Beret Anders grandmother Bereth Baardsdatter can be found in the 1801 census, see here and since she then was 4 years old we find her in 1797, see #8 from the top on the left page here The notes at her record says she married Nov 8 1821 - no question mark here and is probably the right date, and the other that she died March 3 1879 at the Holmli farm. See #29 |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 22:48:38
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Annes birth record is #35 and her parents were Hans Arentsen and Mali Andorsdatter.
In the 1865 census we find them at lille Langdal see here.
Hans was then 44 years old and born in Lom, Mali was 33 years.
A birth record for Mali is not available, but she was confirmed in 1848, see #2 her parents were Andor Olsen and Sigrid Sivertsdatter.
Hans was a widower when he married Mali, see #10 his father was Arent Olsen and being one of the best men he was obviously living at the Langdal farm. In 1865 he is here |
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TLarson
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 23:00:57
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| My records indicate that Anders' grandfather Anders was born in 1799 and died in 1870. I have no birth or death date for his wife Beret Bardsdtr though. Anders Johansen had one other child before Lars whose name was Mikkel and he was born January 12, 1823. So if Anders and Beret got married in 1824 they would have had one illegitimate child. Lars was born December 23, 1825 and therefore would have been a legitimate child. I do also have a birth year for Johan Bentsen 1771 and his wife Marithe 1778 I do not have death dates for them though. Could you tell me what the birth date for John Bentsen says please, as I am not very good at deciphering old records yet. Thank you for all your help so far! |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 23:41:54
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Your dates seems to coincide with what I have found. I did not find Johan Bentsens birth record - #4 was Anders Johansens - sorry for the mixup.
To find death dates for Johan and Marithe you would have to look throu death records from 1830 -1860 - that takes time!
you can look in the scanned records here. |
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Edited by - eibache on 05/10/2007 00:18:01 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 00:22:40
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Hi,
this looks like your Beret.
Beret/Berit Baardsdatter born Feb. 3. 1802 on Qvelstad, christened in Stiklestad church Feb. 14.
Parents: Baard Larsen Qvelstad and Siri Nielsdatter Top right page
Godparents, hard to read some of the farms:
Andor Nielsen Indal, Niels Larsen Dal?, Ole Olsen Molde, Marte Olsdr Indal, Hiertrud Mark dale?, Maret Olsdr Moe.
A note below Berits name its written:
konfirmert (confirmation) 1817
gift (married) 8.4.1824
Enke (widow)21.01.-70
+ (died) 14.03.-94
Kċre
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Kċarto
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 00:45:35
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Reforme Corporal Baard Larsen Schiefloe and Siri Nielsdatter Qveldstad married Jan. 1797, #1 1797
Reforme Corporal means he likely was a Grenader, a recruited soldier. He was listed in Trondhjemske regiment, 2. Nasjonale bataljon (Verdal), as Norway was preparing for the war against Sweden 1814
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Edited by - Kċarto on 05/10/2007 01:21:09 |
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eibache
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 10:31:31
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The Birit Kċre found is the right one, it says she was a widow Dec 21 1870 - this is the date that Anders died, her death date can be confirmed and also the date for marriage coincide even though it cannot be confirmed due to lack of scanned records.
Just another bit of info, Baard and Siri were living on Ĝstre Qvelstad. The farms where godfathers were living are Indalen, Dillan, Molden and Moe. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 14:03:27
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Beret Baardsdatter died on Holmlivald March 14. 1894 as "Kaarenke", former owner of the farm.
Verdal 1891:
Beret Baardsdatter lived on Jamt-Pladsen with her son, cotter Lars Andersen born 1825, married with Maria Olsdtr, three children, Beret, Elling and Mette Click here
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Kċarto
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 14:19:06
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Verdal 1900:
It seems Jamt-Pladsen was another name for Holmlivald.
Beret and Anders son Lars Andersen had now changed last name to Lars Holmlivald, he lived with his wife Marie and two of the children, Elling and Mette.
His daughter Beret born 1869 is missing in the 1900 census for Verdal.
Kaarm. (former owner) and Enkemand (Widower)Lars Andersen Kluken born 1825 died on Holmlivald march 15. 1917 of age #9
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Edited by - Kċarto on 05/10/2007 15:35:00 |
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Looking for ship Anders Larson came on,
