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bjuge
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 Posted - 08/10/2007 : 19:01:48
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My great-grandfather's family lived on the Bjuge farm in Biri, NO. (Carl Bergthor Bjuge was his name)
I have found that his father was named Andreas Iversen Bjuge, and his mother was Eline Marie Gulbrandsen. He apparently had a sister, named Elene Iversdatter Bjuge who came to the US in 1844 or 1845. She was born in 1824, in Biri. We know nothing of what became of her, but believe she may have married. Carl Bjuge came to the US in 1900, and was bound to a Johann(e/a) Myhre in Cambridge, MA.
There is another piece to the puzzle. Ole Svendsen Bjuge was likely a cousin of Andreas Iversen Bjuge, and entered the US in 1849 at the age of 21.
Andreas' parents were Iver Engrbretsen Bjuge, and his mother was Berthe Baardsdatter Bjuge, born 1804. She was still alive for the 1865 census, and was living in Kristiana with Andreas and his family. Andreas was a Schoolteacher, and was born in 1821 in Biri.
I've run into a solid bunch of dead-ends at this point. I've got nothing for tracking the Myhre's in Massachusetts. Ole Svendsen might have had offspring in Winnetka IL -- Anette Gunhilde Bjuge (Carl's sister) listed Mrs. Alfred Nelson of Winnetka IL as a cousin on one of her entries to the United States. Mrs. Alfred Nelson may, however, have been an offspring of Elene Iversdatter Bjuge. I suspect there may have been more siblings to Andreas and Elene, but have no way of knowing for sure -- the old family correspondence was thrown out decades ago.
I did manage to find Elene by browsing the bookstore at Vesterheim in Decorah, IA. I hope to make time to get to Madison to do some research in the records there. If, however, there is anyone who can shed greater light on this, I would be very appreciative!
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jwiborg
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 21:52:11
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Some records from LDS....
Widower Iver Embretsen Ekren (35) & Berte Baarsdr Bjuge (30)
Marriage: 27 MAR 1817, Biri, Oppland. Original record
Children of Iver Ingebretsen & Berthe Baardsdr:
Kari Iversdr
Birth: 04 APR 1819
Christening: 08 APR 1819, Biri, Oppland
Andreas Iversen
Christening: 18 OCT 1821, Biri, Oppland
Eline Iversdr
Birth: 21 OCT 1824
Christening: 22 OCT 1824, Biri, Oppland
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Eline Maria Gulbrandsdr
Birth: 05 SEP 1824
Christening: 06 SEP 1824, Biri, Oppland
Parents: Guldbrand Pedersen & Karen Larsdr
Ole Svendsen
Christening: 02 MAY 1828, Biri, Oppland
Parents: Svend Reiersen & Marit Christoffersdr
Based on his parents patronymic, Ole Svendsen can not be a first cousin to Andreas Iversen.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 08/10/2007 21:58:21 |
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bjuge
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 22:03:11
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Wow, thanks for the info! This gives me quite a bit more to research.
I guess Ole must've been either a non-related previous inhabitant of the Bjuge farm, or a more distant cousin. |
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bjuge
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 22:16:03
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I apologize for leaving out the fact that I know Eline Marie Gulbrandsen was born in 1841, in Biri: http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0218&kenr=009&bnr=0051
We believe she passed away in 1879 or 1880.
Jan Peter, Thank you very, very much!
Is that the ages you have after the marriage record of Iver and Berte? The census records above would seem to indicate that Berte would have been only 13 in 1817...which isn't out of the question for getting married, but does seem young |
Edited by - bjuge on 08/10/2007 22:30:37 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 22:27:03
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No problem... 
I'm questioning the age of Berthe Baardsdr in the 1865-census.
The marriage record from 1817 says she's 30, ie. born ab. 1787.
It could be this one, but the family is living on the Mælum farm in Biri. Maybe they moved to Bjuge later...?
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bjuge
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 22:32:09
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That looks likely. We know nothing about the family before Carl came to the USA, so we've put together as much as we can from documents on this side. That's how I found out his father's name -- from Carl's Half-brother's draft registration form in WW1, and his Social Security Death Index entry.
Would the move from Maelum to Bjuge have been a long move? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 22:46:08
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No, both farms are in the Gjøvik/Biri region, distance between the farms are ab. 25 km
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bjuge
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 23:11:24
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It's a definite possibility. Is it likely that the census of 1865 would be so incorrect on her age? Since I'm looking at transcribed data, I suppose it's entirely possible that someone misread an age of "81" with "61". If they simply asked people their ages, and then calculated their birthdates from that information, that seems likely. If however, they asked when they were born, and calculated age from that...
Your information is driving home the fact that I need to spend more time with my Learn-Norwegian book, so I can use the search engines more efficiently myself!
Looking at this page: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=hentglobal®ister=etternavn&pgj=54&teljing=ft1900&filnamn=f00301.wc2&amt=3&funnenr=11
I can see that Andreas has passed away, and Karoline is left with most of the family. Is a Løsarbeiderske a hired hand? And is 0301 Kristiana the address of the Bjuge farm, or of the house to which they had moved?
Would this, then be the 1801 census for the Bjuge farm at 0218 Agger (I love how spellings change!)
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=hentglobal®ister=etternavn&pgj=27&teljing=ft1801&filnamn=f10218.wc2&amt=2&funnenr=59
If so, then by 1900, only Anette Gunhilde was still living there: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=hentglobal®ister=etternavn&pgj=36&teljing=ft1900&filnamn=f00218.wc2&amt=2&funnenr=11 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 23:25:17
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Hi,
"Løsarbeiderske" was a girl who took any job available at the time, short-time engagements..., casual worker, day labourer.
The original 1865 census found at http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar&spraak=e list how old the person would be in 1866.
So if it says 66, it would indicate that he/she was born in 1800, but +/- 1 year is often needed.
The same census found at http://www.rhd.uit.no has the birthyear calculated based on the age given in the original papers.
Kristiana is the old name of the Norwegian capital Oslo, so the family probably moved down there when Andreas got the job as a teacher.
Oslo is 145 km south of Biri, today it will take you 2.5 hrs by car.
Agger is the old name for Aker, a region in Oslo.
Bjuge farm in Biri, Oppland can also be found in Biri ("Birie") in 1801, the famr is then called Biuge.
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