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JenJohnson
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Belgium
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  17:26:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I cannot read where Anne is from either on the death certificate or the arkivet. Can anyone please help?
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7934&uid=ny&idx_side=-212
lefthand page, #5
It starts with D and it is in Heddal, Telemark.

I am pretty sure they are Ole Johnsen´s parents. Here is Ole getting married and father John is now at Liene, as it says on Ole´s death cert:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5960&uid=ny&idx_side=-297
lefthand page, #2

Any advice on how to make sure this is the right connection would be greatly appreciated.

Hopkins
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  18:04:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Duverud is the name of the farm they are both listed as residing on at the time of their marriage. That scanned record is their marriage record.

Page 367 of "Hitterdals-Boken: Gaarde og Slegter", by O.H. Holta says Anne Hansdatter, bapt. 6/4/1800, married 11/5/1824 to John Olsen Duverud, 28 years old.

To verify connection the birth/baptismal record for Ole Johnsen would be preferable - it might list names of both parents. Ole's marriage record says he is 28 when he marries, therefore born about 1828 - search the birth/baptismal records for that time period. Edited out because I feel Jan Peter is probably correct below.
Edited by - Hopkins on 12/11/2007 19:45:27
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  18:29:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Ole's age says 27¼ from the marriage record of 05-Apr-1859, thus born ca Dec 1831.

#5, Born Dec-17-1831, chr 01-Jan-1832, Ole, parents Jon Olsen & Anne Hansdr, Lien under Aase

John Olsen & Anne Hansdr also had a girl named Bergit, christened 11 Feb 1838 in Heddal, Telemark.
The family then lived at Liene farm in Aase schooldistrict, Hiterdal parish.

Jan Peter
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  19:58:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John and Anne had a girl Guri in 1829, see #5 and in 1835 they had Anne, see #27
Bergit was born Jan 31 1838, see #12
Anne died half a year later, see #36 and John married again in 1840, see #7
He then had a son Gregar in 1842, see #63
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 12/11/2007 20:48:28
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JenJohnson
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  21:18:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins

Duverud ...Page 367 of "Hitterdals-Boken: Gaarde og Slegter", by O.H. Holta says Anne Hansdatter, bapt. 6/4/1800, married 11/5/1824 to John Olsen Duverud, 28 years old.


Thank you so, so much.
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JenJohnson
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  21:23:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

I think Ole's age says 27¼ from the marriage record of 05-Apr-1859, thus born ca Dec 1831.

#5, Born Dec-17-1831, chr 01-Jan-1832,
Jan Peter

Thank you so very much. That is absolutely my great great great grandfather. I had his birth date from the death certificate. I swear I do not know how you all surf the archives so easily. You are amazing. And I need to study more. Thank you again.
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JenJohnson
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Belgium
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  21:25:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

John and Anne had a girl Guri in 1829, see #5 and in 1835 they had Anne, see #27
Bergit was born Jan 31 1838, see #12
Anne died half a year later, see #36 and John married again in 1840, see #7
He then had a son Gregar in 1842, see #63

Thank you. I am aghast at your ability to find these things and very, very grateful.
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DALB
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Posted - 13/11/2007 :  04:03:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the Heddal transcripts of the parish records - these could be additions to your family.

Ole Johnson & Anne Hansd may have had another daughter,
1824 May 27 Margit to John Olsen & Anne Duerud

Anne Hansdatter's parents -
Marr. 1793 Nov 7 Hans Halvorsen Duverud Bouglerud & Ingri Nielsd Malass

children:
1794 Oct 23 Halvor Hans Halvorsen & Inger Nielsd Duerod
1797 Mar 24 NIles Hans & Ingeri Driend u Bauged
1800 Apr 3 Anne Hans & Ingeri Dolreud u Baugeerud
? 1802 Dec 22 Ole Hans & Ingeri Onerud u Haugerud
1806 Apr 27 Gunder Hans & Ingeri Duerud u Baugerud

Hans & Ingeri - 1801 census at the farm Øgaam - with the 3 oldest children

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=4&filnamn=f10823&gardpostnr=12&personpostnr=367&merk=367#ovre

367 Hans Halvorsen Huusbonde 38 Gift 1ste gg Huusmand med jord
368 Ingeri Nielsd Hans kone 29 Gift 1ste gg
369 Halvor Hansen Deres børn 5
370 Niels Hansen Deres børn 4
371 Anne Hansd Deres børn 1

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JenJohnson
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Belgium
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Posted - 13/11/2007 :  08:50:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DALB

From the Heddal transcripts of the parish records - these could be additions to your family.

Ole Johnson & Anne Hansd may have had another daughter,
1824 May 27 Margit to John Olsen & Anne Duerud

Anne Hansdatter's parents -
Marr. 1793 Nov 7 Hans Halvorsen Duverud Bouglerud & Ingri Nielsd Malass

children:
1794 Oct 23 Halvor Hans Halvorsen & Inger Nielsd Duerod
1797 Mar 24 NIles Hans & Ingeri Driend u Bauged
1800 Apr 3 Anne Hans & Ingeri Dolreud u Baugeerud
? 1802 Dec 22 Ole Hans & Ingeri Onerud u Haugerud
1806 Apr 27 Gunder Hans & Ingeri Duerud u Baugerud

Hans & Ingeri - 1801 census at the farm Øgaam - with the 3 oldest children

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=4&filnamn=f10823&gardpostnr=12&personpostnr=367&merk=367#ovre

367 Hans Halvorsen Huusbonde 38 Gift 1ste gg Huusmand med jord
368 Ingeri Nielsd Hans kone 29 Gift 1ste gg
369 Halvor Hansen Deres børn 5
370 Niels Hansen Deres børn 4
371 Anne Hansd Deres børn 1




Thank you.

I also found the census record at farm Øgaarn all by my lonesome last night, but I looked my eyes out trying to find the birth of Ingeri or Ingri Nielsd anywhere in Heddal around 1772. Is Malass in Heddal?
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 13/11/2007 :  09:21:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You will find the marriage record for Hans Halvorsen and Ingri Nielsdatter as the 4th from the top on the right hand page here
Ingri Nielsdatter came from the farm Mælaas.
Einar
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JenJohnson
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Belgium
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Posted - 13/11/2007 :  09:46:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

You will find the marriage record for Hans Halvorsen and Ingri Nielsdatter as the 4th from the top on the right hand page here
Ingri Nielsdatter came from the farm Mælaas.


Thank you. Boy do I prefer records that show ages and parents of groom and bride.
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JenJohnson
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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  17:02:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

I think Ole's age says 27¼ from the marriage record of 05-Apr-1859, thus born ca Dec 1831.

#5, Born Dec-17-1831, chr 01-Jan-1832, Ole, parents Jon Olsen & Anne Hansdr, Lien under Aase

John Olsen & Anne Hansdr also had a girl named Bergit, christened 11 Feb 1838 in Heddal, Telemark.
The family then lived at Liene farm in Aase schooldistrict, Hiterdal parish.

Jan Peter


Can you please help me find the birth record for John Olsen, born about 1797, possibly in Bradsberg, Heirdal, Telemark? I believe his father was Ole Kjostolsen (from 1840 marriage to Ligne Gregarsd Bamberg). I tried but did not find anything conclusive. Maybe he is not even from Telemark.
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  21:49:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is here
right hand page, 7th from the top, he was born April 9 and baptized April 17 1797 and his father was Ole Kjøstolvsen at the Langeskaat farm i Søland, Hjartdal, Telemark.
By the way his second wifes given name was Signe.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 29/11/2007 22:23:55
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JenJohnson
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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  22:32:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much. I am doing my best to read it. Please correct me:
To Ole Kjostolssen Langeskaat born a son Jon on 9 April.Christening witnesses/godparents: Halvor and Anne Fosse, Ingeborg and Anne Halvorsd. Fosse and Michael Christiansen Lia.
Mother: Mari Jonsdattir

Thank you again for your help.
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 30/11/2007 :  00:55:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Langeskatt" was the name of a 'plass' attached to the Lia farm in Sauland, Hjartdal. There were several Lia farms in Sauland.
I'm checking the bygdebok - will respond if anything interesting found.

The 1801 census - (great spelling! )
1801
Edited by - Hopkins on 30/11/2007 01:03:59
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JenJohnson
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Belgium
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Posted - 30/11/2007 :  01:13:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins

"Langeskatt" was the name of a 'plass' attached to the Lia farm in Sauland, Hjartdal. There were several Lia farms in Sauland.
I'm checking the bygdebok - will respond if anything interesting found.

The 1801 census - (great spelling! )
1801


Respect. How do you find these things?!? With spelling like that it is like watching you pull a rabbit out of your hat.
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