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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  17:55:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

Christian is #5
father carpenter Casper Christophersen and mother Pernille Knudsdatter. (Cannot read farm, but they were Inderste - renters).
There are no bygdebøker for Eiker/Nedre/Øvre Eiker.
In 1865 Christian is with his brother and mother at Solberg in nedre Eiker, see here





Eibache. Can you come close to reading the farm name on this or can you throw it out to the group to see if anybody can read it. I have the Modum Bydgebok and maybe if might make some mention of this family.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  19:02:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by jwiborg

Aslach Thorsen Bakke is the father to Tor Aslakson (Theodore Thomson), but I doubt he is the father to Oluf. This looks to be Aslach in census-1900, married to Sigrid Olsdtr.

And he has a son born 1866, so he must have been unfaithful if he had a child with Margit in 1870.

Aslach Thorsen Bakke (1826-1906)

I believe Ole Thoreson Bakke born 18-May-1847 could be a brother of Aslach Thorsen Bakke, akthough there is 20 years between them. Maybe an uncle?

Anyway; Ole Thoreson Bakke (32) can be found in Holden, Goodhue, Minnesota in census-1880. He emigrated with his family in 1851. He would have been 4yrs old then, and Aslach 25. A bit strange maybe that Aslach didn't emigrate as well, if his family left....

But it looks like your family had relatives in Goodhue, Minnesota before they emigrated. Ole T. Bakke could be an uncle or something to Tor/heodor.
There is even a Solberg living in the household!

Jan Peter
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[size=2]Jan Peter, I am going back to an old post from you that said there was a Magnus O. Solberg in the household that was related the Tor Aslaksen that Margit had her first child with in Hemsedal/Gol.

Do you think there could be any connection to this Magnus Solberg and the Solbergs Margit might have know in EKER?

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Knudt T. BAKKE Self M Male W 49 NORWAY Farmer NORWAY NORWAY
Guneld O. BAKKE Wife M Female W 42 NORWAY Keeping House NORWAY NORWAY
Tori R. BAKKE Son S Male W 22 MN At Home NORWAY NORWAY
Anna BAKKE Dau S Female W 15 MN At Home NORWAY NORWAY
Karen G. BAKKE Dau S Female W 13 MN At Home NORWAY NORWAY
Olive BAKKE Dau S Female W 8 MN NORWAY NORWAY
Julia J. BAKKE Dau S Female W 3 MN NORWAY NORWAY
Peter J. BAKKE Son S Male W 5 MN NORWAY NORWAY
Tori J. BAKKE Father W Male W 80 NORWAY NORWAY NORWAY
Ole T. BAKKE Brother M Male W 32 NORWAY Farmer NORWAY NORWAY
Magnus O. SOLBERG Other S Male W 30 NORWAY Farm Laborer NORWAY NORWAY [/size=2]
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Edited by - Erik Carsten on 05/05/2008 19:05:35
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  04:21:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Sorry to be in this so late but is anyone still interested in Ole Tronson Brandvold?

His obituary was published in the Hallinglag of America's magazineHallingen in December 1922, page1399-1400. His birthdate is given as 20 June 1837. His funeral was conducted on the 17th [month not given ]His age at death is given as 85 years, 3 months, 34 days. It says he came to America from Vang, Valders where he lived until from 1876 (which might explain why he was not found in the US census)until 1900, when he came to Douglas county, Minnesota, then to South Dakota. In 1904 he moved to Macoun, Saskatchewan, Canada. Survivors mentioned are the widow, Mrs. CJ Hemsedal, Hallingdal, Mrs. Johnson in St. Paul, Minnesota; Trond Brandvold, Ole Brandvold, Mrs. Peter Brandvold all of Macoun.

The Mrs' obituary was published in Hallingen in March 1926, page 64. Her deathdate is reported as 22 Jan 1926 and she is survived by 5 children:Tom and Ole of Macoun; Mrs. Betzy sic Bramstad, Midale California; Mrs. Mary Johnson of St. Paul, Minnesota; Mrs. Ingeborg Dækko Hemsedal, Hallingdal; another daughter Mrs. Inge Bergum died some before. It also says Liv came to Douglas County, Minnesota in 1890. In 1892 they homesteaded on the Sisseton reservation by Crawford, S.D. for 11 years, then two years at Roseau, Minnesota and after 1904 in Macoun.


There are Solberg farms found in the Gol (Hallingdal) bygdebok in volumes IV, pages 609, 722, and volume VI, page 673; and a Solberget in Volume III, page 834. Perhaps this is the farm you need for the other question.

Hope this is of interest....

Jackie M.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  08:05:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Jackie.

We have been looking for these people for some time.....Thank you! It is nice to know what became of Liv, Margit's sister.

Through the help of the researchers here at Norwegian Heritage, it has been shown that Ole and Liv's son Thrond, married Caroline-a first cousin. I show Thrond and Caroline in Qu'apelle, SASK. in 1906 but after that I see no record of them. Is that "Tom", listed as a son of Liv, Thrond?

Also, by Midale you mean SASK, not California, right? Also, I could not find Crawford, South Dakota?
Thank you.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  08:18:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by jwiborg

It sure does!

Knut Olsen Teigen (travelling companion) to Theodore A. Thompson in 1914, is Theodore's cousin!
Knut is the son of Margit's brother Ole Mikkelsen Fauske-Teigen (1843-1923).

Ole Mikkelsen Fauske-Teigen (1843-1923) & Sunnev Knutsdatter Fekjo (1836-1906) had the following children:
Mekkel 1864-1955, farmer on Fauske-Teigen
Birgit* 1867-1952, married to Ola Nilsson Brandvøl
Birgit* 1870, married to Endre Trondson Jordheim -> Emigrated to America
Knut 1872 -> Emigrated to America
Ola 1874 -> Emigrated to America
Per 1878 -> Emigrated to America
Margit 1881

*Could be a writing error, I doubt that both sisters were named Birgit.
The farmbook from Hemsedal reveals that Ole was a good mason, making indoor open fireplaces (hearth).
Mekkel (1864-1955) and his wife did not have children, and were both quiet people, always happy and satisfied.
His saying was "It's good enough"...

Knut was home in Norway in 1911 and 1914.
In 1914, there was a jubilee in Hemsedal which they attended, and Knut was elected by the "Hemsedal people in America" to deliver their gift to Hemsedal community.
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Dear Jan Peter. A very nice mortician dug up (not literally though) Knut's obituary for me. As I learned, Knut moved to Kalispell, Montana to be close to his brother, Peder. At the time of his death the obituary listed survivor's as 3 brothers:
1. OleTeigen in Bowman, North Dakota
2. Michael (Mikkel) in Norway
3. Peder in Kalispell, Montana.
and two sisters:
1. Mrs. A. Nygaard, also in Bowman, North Dakota
2. Birget in Norway.

I looked at the birth records for the parish and yes, there were TWO Birgits. I don't know why they would name them the same but they did.

I am thinking that the Birgit that married Endre Jordheim, somehow his name was changed to Nygaard.

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 07/05/2008 08:20:41
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  10:30:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eric,

Yes sorry Midale Sask. There are a few discrepancies between the two obituaries. Yes it often happens that children are named the same name: two grandparents with that first name may mean there has to be 2 children with that name--you wouldn't expect grandparents to share a namesake? Etc.

Knut Olson Teigen gave $5 for Hemsedal as part of the Folkegaven project about 1910-1914. This project involved raising money to give to their home kommunes. Money was first spent to raise bautastein in each kommune in Hallingdal carved with the names of the 1807-1814 veterans. The money (about $20,000 US) was taken to Norway. Estimates of about 1200 Hallings visited with the funds. When he donated his address was "Greenville, SD".

Peder Olson Teigen of Creston, Mont gave $10.
Ole Olson Teigen of Bowman, N.D. gave $10.
Ole Throndson Brandvold of Macoun Sask gave $5.
Thrond Olson Brandvold of Macoun Sask gave $5.

Best, Jackie
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  18:33:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.

Thanks to the new poster on these boards, I have finally found Liv and Ole Brandvold and some of their children.

I see them in the 1906 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta.

Ede Brandvold, b 1827 = OLE
Lio Brandvold, b. 1827 = LIV
Ole Brandvold (son) born 1880
Inga Brandvod (daughter) born 1888.....she married BERGUM
Tho Brandvold = THROND b. 1870
his wife Caroline
and their children Leivert, Clarence, Lida, and Nellie.

Note that in the 1900 US Census where I found Thron and Caroline living in White Rock, SD....they state LEIVERT is a STEP-SON. That would indicate either CAROLINE or THRON had another spouse before they married.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  20:38:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


dear Jackie,

Can you explain about this Hallinglag? Also, t his magazine you spoke about, is it still being published? If not, when did they stop printing it?


Is there still an active group of Hallingdal descendants? I would be interested in joining.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  20:47:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...according to the Bydgebok pages that were send to me by a cousin that has this book, there is a section on the Brandvol family.
It states that Ola and Liv had a farm Grov i VANG 1876-1900. Then it says this

"I Amerika budde dei fyrst i Minnesota, so i Sor Dakota, men i 1904 flotte dei til Canada." Dei var gifte i 51 ar og hadde 5 born

do I understand that they married ag age 51? That must be a misprint.

what does "budde" mean?

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 07/05/2008 20:58:53
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jwiborg
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  20:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Carsten
"I Amerika budde dei fyrst i Minnesota, so i Sor Dakota, men i 1904 flotte dei til Canada." Dei var gifte i 51 ar og hadde 5 born.
In America they lived first in Minnesota, then in South Dakota, but in 1904 they moved to Canada. They were married for 51 years and had 5 children.

Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  21:03:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
o.k. thanks.

I just got an email from the Sasketchewan Genealogical Society and there is a 4 page biographical sketch on the Brandvolds in Macoun, and she is sending it down to me.

Jan Peter, this is really filling in all the grey areas with the exception of the big one. Olaf's father.

Do you feel we are stuck for them moment and do you have any other suggestions?

I am almost ready to move onto the "Bakken" side of my family.

Best Regards,
E.B.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/05/2008 :  04:18:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Eric,

Yes the Hallinglag is still functional. Last year was our hundredth anniversary celebration. The magazine has been continuously published since 1908. This year's stevne (meeting) is in Minot, North Dakota. Here is our web address:

http://www.fellesraad.com/hallinglag-home.htm

Welcome!

Jackie M.

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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 13/05/2008 :  19:09:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

quote:
Originally posted by Erik Carsten
"I Amerika budde dei fyrst i Minnesota, so i Sor Dakota, men i 1904 flotte dei til Canada." Dei var gifte i 51 ar og hadde 5 born.
In America they lived first in Minnesota, then in South Dakota, but in 1904 they moved to Canada. They were married for 51 years and had 5 children.

Jan Peter





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Jan Peter.


Do you see a record of LIV and OLE Branvold emigration to America?

If my information is correct. I am showing that their son Trond and his wife Caroline emigrated in 1888? and then Trond's parents would have come over in 1900 as the Norwegian farm book states?

Another question I have is that according to the 1900 US Census Trond and Caroline list their first son "Leivert" as a step-son. How could this be?

I see that Leivert's name became Severt. This whole family ended up in Macoun Sask. CANADA.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 13/05/2008 :  21:16:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Jan Peter, actually according to this posting from JKMARLER from the HALLINGLAG it shows LIV came over in 1890? I'm confused, who had the farm in VANG till 1900?


The Mrs' obituary was published in Hallingen in March 1926, page 64. Her deathdate is reported as 22 Jan 1926 and she is survived by 5 children:Tom and Ole of Macoun; Mrs. Betzy sic Bramstad, Midale California; Mrs. Mary Johnson of St. Paul, Minnesota; Mrs. Ingeborg Dækko Hemsedal, Hallingdal; another daughter Mrs. Inge Bergum died some before. It also says Liv came to Douglas County, Minnesota in 1890. In 1892 they homesteaded on the Sisseton reservation by Crawford, S.D. for 11 years, then two years at Roseau, Minnesota and after 1904 in Macoun.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/05/2008 :  02:24:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Here is the web page address for the homestead Ole T. Brandvold took in South Dakota--dated 1901.

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Detail.asp?Accession=SDMTAA+078284&Index=2&QryID=72572%2E34&DetailTab=1

Perhaps, Mrs. & Mr. migrated seperately?

The obituary says this. exactly:

"Mrs. Branvold, som var født i Hemsedal, Norge, kom, ifølge med sin familie, til Brandon, Douglas county, Minn., in 1890. I 1892 tog de homestead paa Sisseton Reservation, Crawford, S.Dak. hvor de forblev i 11 aar. Siden var de 2 aar i Roseau county, Minn., og kom til Canada i 1904."

Obviously some discrepancies between the two obits requiring more research etc.

Hilsen,
Jackie M.


Edited by - jkmarler on 14/05/2008 02:28:28
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