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joycelovell
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 Posted - 16/07/2008 : 22:29:27
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Erik:
Thank you! This is great information, and, yes, I would like the biographical background of Christina's family. You are a whiz!
As for Mable, let me ask my mother what she remembers - this might be dicey, her memory is not great - but I remember her living alone in the Cities as a middle-aged/elderly woman. Great raspberry patch. I may have a picture somewhere. Actually, I have a family portrait of Thomas, Christina, and the clan. But let me get with mom. She may or may not remember her uncle, Thomas' brother. I have no memory of him.
Again, thanks!
Cheers,
Joyce
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 23/07/2008 : 18:22:12
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[quote]Originally posted by jwiborg
One of the sponsors are Olava Olsdatter Solberg born Eker. Could she be a sister of Kristofer Olsen Solberg?
This could be Olava in census-1865, living on the Solberg farm in Eker, together with parents, two brothers and a sister.
Her parents are Ole Kristoffersen & Berte Johnsdatter.
Olava Olsdatter Solberg died in South Africa on 14 Dec 1890.
Jan Peter.
Do you see where Kristofer Olsen Solberg was living in 1865? Can he be located on any Census?
Also, I was thinking, how did Margit end up in Oppland? In our research, it was found that Margit's sister, Liv, ended up moving to Vang in Valdres. Is that close to where this Solberg farm is?
Best Regards,Erik. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/07/2008 : 19:04:40
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Hi,
this could be Kristofer Olsen Solberg in census-1865. He is listed as married though, but it could be wrong, because no wife is listed with the household. He is listed as farmer's hand.
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 23/07/2008 20:58:49 |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 24/07/2008 : 03:12:28
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Originally posted by jwiborg
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Originally posted by Erik Carsten
Based upon what you now know, what parish would you look at in the Arki.....records for birth and baptism for Oluf?
It's hard to tell where Oluf was born/christened. My guess would be Gol or Hemsedal, but I did look there without finding him.
It's a shame that the 1865-census for Gol/Hemsedal are lost, thus we don't know if Margaret was living there and married to a Christofer Solberg by then.
She could be this woman living in Eker, Buskerud, but she could also be living in Gol/Hemsedal by 1865.
To the right is a map of Buskerud county. The blue part shows the location in Norway. Gol/Hemsedal is way up in the mountains.
 
Jan Peter
Jan Peter.
Can we go back to this women you found some time ago? Is this farm near where the farm the Christoffer Olsen Solberg might have been born on in Eker.
On Oluf's birth record it listed Kristoffer Olsen Solberg, born Eker and Margit Mikkelsdatter Teigen, Eker now Oppland.
Do I understand that the Parish Priest recorded that Margit had come from Eker?
I wonder if the OUtflights from Eker show Margit leaving for Oppland?
Erik. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/07/2008 : 07:53:17
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Hi Erik,
This may be Christopher in 1865 if all goes well with the pasting:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&a=b&filnamn=f60218a
and here is another go---
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=f60218a&gardpostnr=356&personpostnr=3572&merk=3572#ovre
Just in case this doesn't fix. There is a Christofer Ols.Solberg in Vestre Aker at the Gaustad Asyl. He is aged 21, tjenstedreng born in Eker and has "sindsyge".
If she was new to the parish the pastor may have assumed that Margaret was born in Eker since she had said she'd just come from there. It might be interesting to know where the son Tor was confirmed, if it was in Norway.(Okay thanks for info!) And Margaret reported on herself this time--with the first child it was her brother-in-law who ratted on her. But she may have been having a "convenience of memory" as it says the child is both their first indiscretion. Another thing about this entry is that the binding is so tight a couple critical words are missing in the shadows. For instance half of the first name of the first sponsor listed as well as the verb "fodt" which makes Eker her birthplace could easily say "[fra] Eker now on (it almost looks like to me) Opperud" rather than Oppland.
This finding of the baptism of Oluf is quite exhilarating! How did he accomplish this? Good old hard work gumshoe method or just a hunch?
Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 24/07/2008 : 08:24:05
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Originally posted by Erik Carsten
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Hi Erik,
This may be Christopher in 1865 if all goes well with the pasting:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&a=b&filnamn=f60218a
If she was new to the parish the pastor may have assumed that Margaret was born in Eker since she had said she'd just come from there. It might be interesting to know where the son Tor was confirmed, if it was in Norway.
Hilsen,
Jackie M.
Jackie. HI! the pasting did not come through I think. I couldn't see a Christoffer Solberg.....
p.s. Joel Thoresen from ELCA says hi. He was a big help. A good resource!
Best Regards,
Erik
Jackie.
Tor Aslaksen (Theodore Thompson) was confirmed in Gol/Hemsedal. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/07/2008 : 10:49:29
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Originally posted by Erik Carsten
Can we go back to this women you found some time ago? Is this farm near where the farm the Christoffer Olsen Solberg might have been born on in Eker?
The distance between Hoen and Solberg is about 2.5 miles (4 km).
Btw; both farms are located in Øvre Eiker, not in Nedre eiker as have been said earlier. Eiker was splitted in Øvre Eiker ("Upper Eiker) and Nedre Eiker ("Lower Eiker") on July 1st 1885 .
Jan Peter |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 24/07/2008 : 19:39:05
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Hi Erik,
This may be Christopher in 1865 if all goes well with the pasting:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&a=b&filnamn=f60218a
and here is another go---
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=f60218a&gardpostnr=356&personpostnr=3572&merk=3572#ovre
Just in case this doesn't fix. There is a Christofer Ols.Solberg in Vestre Aker at the Gaustad Asyl. He is aged 21, tjenstedreng born in Eker and has "sindsyge".
If she was new to the parish the pastor may have assumed that Margaret was born in Eker since she had said she'd just come from there. It might be interesting to know where the son Tor was confirmed, if it was in Norway.(Okay thanks for info!) And Margaret reported on herself this time--with the first child it was her brother-in-law who ratted on her. But she may have been having a "convenience of memory" as it says the child is both their first indiscretion. Another thing about this entry is that the binding is so tight a couple critical words are missing in the shadows. For instance half of the first name of the first sponsor listed as well as the verb "fodt" which makes Eker her birthplace could easily say "[fra] Eker now on (it almost looks like to me) Opperud" rather than Oppland.
This finding of the baptism of Oluf is quite exhilarating! How did he accomplish this? Good old hard work gumshoe method or just a hunch?
Hilsen,
Jackie M.
Hi Jackie. There is a pilot website for Familysearch.org that is absolutely incredible. The search engine is the best I've seen. that is how we found the record of Oluf's birth. It was pure luck though.
I have a question. Above you mention something about Margit's brother-in-law. What do you mean by this and how do you know this?
Thanks and best regards,
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/07/2008 : 02:24:05
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Hi Erik,
Yes in the entry for the baptism of the half-brother Tor after Margit's name comes the statement about this being the first leiermal and I believe the next words are "reported by Ole Haelgeson Berg."
Am most curious about the familysearch.org search page. It looks as though they have redesigned the look of their home page. Was it the search engine listed on the home page your brother tried?
Jackie M. |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 25/07/2008 : 05:44:30
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Jackie
yes it is on the main page now, bottom left hand corner. it wasn't there before and I don't know how long it will there but it's the best!
Erik.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/07/2008 : 06:52:31
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Wow! Finally! Congratulations! 
It reads:
Born 18-Apr-1870, chr 03-Jul-1870
Oluf
Illegitimate child
Parents: Bachelor, farmer's boy Kristofer Olsen Solberg b. Eker and girl Mari Mikkelsdatter Teigen (Eker, now in Oppland)
Sponsors: Halvord (?) Dølengen, Mari Dølengen, Gulbrand Haugereie, Knud Haugereie, Olava Olsdatter Solberg born Eker.
Their both 1st(?) illegitimate child
Source information: Oppland county, Jevnaker, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1858-1876), Birth and baptism records 1870, page 66.
Jan Peter
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Dear Jan Peter.
Are you sure about the spellings of the witnesses? I am terrible at using the census database but I really could not find any Haugereie or Dolengens in all of Norway. I am wondering if that Haugereie might actually be a farm name and the name might be Haugen?
How is it Margit and Kristoffer went to Jevnaker to have the baby, and then have all those witnesses or Godparents. But none from margit's family.......
It seems to me that they "eloped" but why to Jevnaker? There must be additional links. |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/07/2008 : 08:13:56
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Originally posted by jwiborg
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Originally posted by Erik Carsten
Can we go back to this women you found some time ago? Is this farm near where the farm the Christoffer Olsen Solberg might have been born on in Eker?
The distance between Hoen and Solberg is about 2.5 miles (4 km).
Btw; both farms are located in Øvre Eiker, not in Nedre eiker as have been said earlier. Eiker was splitted in Øvre Eiker ("Upper Eiker) and Nedre Eiker ("Lower Eiker") on July 1st 1885 .
Jan Peter
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Jan Peter.
Look at this. I did find a Gulbrand living on a Haugen farm in Jevnaker, and it list his birth place as Nordrehaug. According to your map this is very, very close to where Margit and Kristoffer lived in EKER.
1865 CENSUS
Pers.no. New household Given name Last name Family pos. Occupation Marital status Age Sex Birth place Cattle Sheep Pig Barley Mixed grain Peas Potatoes
518 1 1 Gulbrand Knudsen hf Husmand med Jord g 38 m Nordrehoug Pgd. 2 4 1 7/8 1/4 1/4 3
519 2 Marte Kristensdatter Hans Kone g 39 k Jevnaker
520 3 Kristian Gulbrandsen Deres Søn ug 13 m Jevnaker
521 4 Knud Gulbrandsen Deres Søn ug 10 m Jevnaker
522 5 Syver Gulbrandsen Deres Søn ug 9 m Jevnaker
523 6 Gustav Gulbrandsen Deres Søn ug 8 m Jevnaker
524 7 Nils Gulbrandsen Deres søn ug 6 m Jevnaker
525 8 Johanne Gulbrandsdatter Deres Datter ug 3 k Jevnaker
526 9 Mari Gulbrandsdatter Deres Datter ug 1 k Jevnaker
There was alos OTTO born 1867 and KAREN born 1870
The witnesses for Olaf's birth listed a Gulbrand and Knut Haugen "eie"
What do you think?
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/07/2008 : 08:55:44
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Jan Peter.
Here is a link to another child of Gulbrand Haugereie. I beleive Gulbrand was one of the witnesses to the birth of Oluf. I think we can read the name of one of the witnesses better on this one, and he is same witness to the birth of Oluf, his name is Edvard ?Dolengen?Possible Link to Oluf's Birth. 1870 #5 (Karen) |
Edited by - Erik Carsten on 27/07/2008 19:51:55 |
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jkmarler
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Erik Carsten
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Information on Margaret (Mickelstadther) Solberg
