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jwiborg
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 Posted - 25/02/2008 : 21:24:51
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Finally!!! 
# 41, born 16-Sep-1856, christened 12-Oct, Thor, parents Aslach Thorsen (?) Bakke & Margit Mikkelsdatter Fauske
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Illegimate child (born out of wedlock)
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/02/2008 : 21:30:17
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Emigration on 07-JUL-1871
Marit Mikelsdatter, married(!), (41) from Goel, destination Milwauce
Tor Aslaksen (11)
Oluf Aslaksen (1/2)
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 25/02/2008 : 22:01:47
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Dear Jan Peter.
I cannot access the link you are showing for the parents. Was Olaf born out of wedlock? or Theodore?
In Oluf's obituary it states his father passed away one year after his birth...... |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 25/02/2008 : 22:18:44
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Hi,
the link is for Thor.
It's his christening record and states that he was born out of wedlock.
Have not seen Oluf's chr record.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 00:28:02
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Aslach Thorsen Bakke is the father to Tor Aslakson (Theodore Thomson), but I doubt he is the father to Oluf. This looks to be Aslach in census-1900, married to Sigrid Olsdtr.
And he has a son born 1866, so he must have been unfaithful if he had a child with Margit in 1870.
Aslach Thorsen Bakke (1826-1906)
I believe Ole Thoreson Bakke born 18-May-1847 could be a brother of Aslach Thorsen Bakke, akthough there is 20 years between them. Maybe an uncle? 
Anyway; Ole Thoreson Bakke (32) can be found in Holden, Goodhue, Minnesota in census-1880. He emigrated with his family in 1851. He would have been 4yrs old then, and Aslach 25. A bit strange maybe that Aslach didn't emigrate as well, if his family left....
But it looks like your family had relatives in Goodhue, Minnesota before they emigrated. Ole T. Bakke could be an uncle or something to Tor/heodor.
There is even a Solberg living in the household!
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 00:36:58
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why do you suppose we have not seen the christening for Oluf?
Question, is being born out of wedlock considered a grave sin in the Norwegian Lutheran Church? Could Margrit have been "excommunicated" and thus Oluf would not have been Christened?
How do you suppose Theodore acquired the name of Thompson?
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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 00:37:06
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And in the next household is Holsten Tolson, which must be Halstein Thorsen Bakke, brother to Aslach.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 00:48:51
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Originally posted by Erik Carsten
why do you suppose we have not seen the christening for Oluf?
I have not seen the christening record for Oluf. Have you?
You indicated that he was born 18-Apr-1870, but it would be nice to find his christening record in a Norwegian churchbook.
Having children born out of wedlock was of course considered very bad, and the priest had also noted in the book that it was their first illegitimate child.
We don't know if Oluf is born out of wedlock, but the christening record would tell. Your information is that she was married to one Christofer Solberg.
I don't think she was excommunicated by the community, but emigrated due to wishes of getting a better life, earn money...
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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 00:52:36
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Did we ever find Theodore Thomson in the 1900-censuses??
I don't remember anymore, and this topic is quite long now...
It could be a transcription error. Maybe Thomson should be Thorson? Theodore's father was Aslach Thorsen Bakke..
Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 01:00:49
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it looks like Oluf was 6 months old when he emigrated. But I see they left Norway in July and if Oluf was born in April that would make him may 3-4 months old? II wonder if she didn't have time to get him christened? I wonder if he was baptized here in the United States?
Based upon what you now know, what parish would you look at in the Arki.....records for birth and baptism for Oluf?
Also, according to Oluf's obituary his father passed away one year after he was born, implying he died BEFORE they left Norwary but the timeline doesn't support this.
I am afraid we are digging up some family secrets that I best let lie. But I must know so let's continue.
edited as according to your information they left July 1871. So Olaf would have been a little over 1 year old. So yes, his real father could have died a year after his birth. Who WAS
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 01:18:35
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Dear Dalb, this is the Theodore Thomson, aka Tor Aslaksen that is the brother or half brother of oluf. The Douglas County Hisotrical Society sent me the biographical sketch so I have it now.
thank you.
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Originally posted by DALB
I do have a copy of the Douglas-Grant Co History - from one of my Great Grandparents. I was told that the only histories in the book are those that the family paid to have included, so it will miss a lot of families from that area. One of my sets of great grandparents is in the book, the other died before it was published, and their children did not put one in.
There are no listing for names similiar to Boraas. There is one Theo Thompson, but he is the one who lived in Urness Twp In Douglas Co, and was married 1881 to Julia Syverson. They had 14 children. He was born in Norway 16 Sept 1856 and died Jan 1916. He emigrated at age 16 to Goodhue Co where he completed his schooling and came to Douglas Co in 1875. No mention of his parents. If you are interested I can send the whole article.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 01:32:09
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
Did we ever find Theodore Thomson in the 1900-censuses??
I don't remember anymore, and this topic is quite long now...
It could be a transcription error. Maybe Thomson should be Thorson? Theodore's father was Aslach Thorsen Bakke..
Jan Peter
Dear Jan Peter, I think several people on this board tried but I don't think anybody posted a link.He would be found with his wife, Julia Syverson, and they had 14 children, Mary, Olaus, CArl, Tillie, Anton, Gilbert, Bennie, Christine, Bertha, Mabel, Selma, Ella, Louis and another Gilbert....the first Gilbert having died from Pneumonia.......they lived in Urness Township, which is just to the south of Brandon Township. |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 01:58:35
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| Yes, Theodore Thomson/Thompson in Douglas Co. appears in censuses later than the 1800 (as I said on 27 Jan). But those cannot be linked because they are pages on a subscription service. |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 20:08:16
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It could be a transcription error. Maybe Thomson should be Thorson? Theodore's father was Aslach Thorsen Bakke..
Jan Peter
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Yes Jan Peter, you are right. In the information that the Douglas county Historical Society sent me, they sent me a copy of the orignal 1880 census for Chippewa Thownship, which is now Brandon Township.
It looks like to me that Theadore family name was Thorson or perhpas Thoreson. But it is clearly not Thompson.
However, in 1886 I see a plat book for Urness Township and where his farm is the name is Theo. A. Thompson.
I have ordered a certified copy of Theodore's death certifcate which should show his father and mother as you found in your search. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/02/2008 : 21:25:39
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Originally posted by Erik Carsten
Based upon what you now know, what parish would you look at in the Arki.....records for birth and baptism for Oluf?
It's hard to tell where Oluf was born/christened. My guess would be Gol or Hemsedal, but I did look there without finding him.
It's a shame that the 1865-census for Gol/Hemsedal are lost, thus we don't know if Margaret was living there and married to a Christofer Solberg by then.
She could be this woman living in Eker, Buskerud, but she could also be living in Gol/Hemsedal by 1865.
To the right is a map of Buskerud county. The blue part shows the location in Norway. Gol/Hemsedal is way up in the mountains.
 
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Edited by - jwiborg on 26/02/2008 22:51:09 |
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Information on Margaret (Mickelstadther) Solberg
