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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/02/2008 :  23:33:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
I have had a look into the Hemsedal Bygdebok now, and Mikkel Olsen Fauske (1797-1872) & Birgit Halvorsdatter (1801-1868) are listed on page 354, as the owner of Fauske Nordre in Hemsedal. Their children:
Margit b. 1830. Son: Tor Aslakson b 1856 -> Emigrated to America
Kari b. 1834. married 1856 to Ola Helgeson Berg -> Emigrated to America
Birgit b.1837, d.1844 (7yr)
Liv b.1840, married to Ola Trondson Brandvøl -> Emigrated to America
Ola b. 1843-1923

The book says that Mikkel later sold the Fauske Nordre farm to Ola Jakobson Huso, and they had plans to go to America. But they never did so, although their 3 girls who grew up did. The parents stayed some time at Berg farm, until they eventually ended up at the Fauske-Teigen farm.

This is interesting. The author of the Hemsedal bygdebok are not aware of Oluf's existence, which indicates that Oluf is not born christened in Hemsedal. And there is no Solberg farm in Hemsedal either.

But there are Solberg farms in Eker, Buskerud, so I feel that Eker (Øver Eker/Nedre Eker) is still the strongest possibility for Oluf's birth.
But what if they left before he was christened? Could the baptism have taken place in Goodhue?

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 27/02/2008 00:06:51
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  00:11:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[But what if they left before he was christened? Could the baptism have taken place in Goodhue?

Jan Peter
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yes, that's what I was thinking...especially if Oluf was also an illigitimate child-born out of wedlock. That probably would not have gone over too well with Local Church Officials.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  00:48:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could this be Thor Aslaksen?
Source information: Buskerud county, Gol, Parish register, Migration records 1871-1872, page 373.

#22 (right page)
11(?) Juni, Ungkarl (Bachelor) Thor Aslaksen Fauske (16), destination America

If it's him, it's interesting that Margit & Oluf are not listed on the same page.
An indication that Margit (& Oluf) didn't live in Hemsedal before the emigration.
Could Thor have been raised by his g.parents?
That was very common for children born out of wedlock, a single mum did often not have capital enough to support a child.

Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  00:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Jan Peter, we might be stuck for the moment. I don't want to continue to take space and time on this board. YOU ALL have been very generous with your time.

I will work on my end to see if I can feed you some helpful information that might solve this puzzle. I have contacted the Douglas County Historical society to see if St. Petri Church is still there, and if not if the records are being kept somewhere. In the obituary of Oluf it stated he was active in this Church and so it might show records of his confirmation/baptism?

Logically, Goodhue would be the place where he did get christened, if they did not do it Norway, and I think with the inforamtion you have provided I might be able to track down the church they attended there.

The Goodhue part of the puzzle DOES answer my big question about who did she know before she came over. I'm thinking Aslak might have been trying to help out Margrit by sending her to some of his family in Norway, maybe he felt guilty about the affair and illigitimate child. Lots of suposition.

I have a deep respect for my ancestors and as I sit here and we type and speak out names of people long ago forgotten, those names that might not have been uttered for many years, I wonder if they stir....as if waking from a long, deep sleep.

Kindest Regards,
Erik.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  01:02:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

Could this be Thor Aslaksen?
Source information: Buskerud county, Gol, Parish register, Migration records 1871-1872, page 373.

#22 (right page)
11(?) Juni, Ungkarl (Bachelor) Thor Aslaksen Fauske (16), destination America

If it's him, it's interesting that Margit & Oluf are not listed on the same page.
An indication that Margit (& Oluf) didn't live in Hemsedal before the emigration.
Could Thor have been raised by his g.parents?
That was very common for children born out of wedlock, a single mum did often not have capital enough to support a child.

Jan Peter



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Dear Jan Peter,
Well the dates work out! Juni 11? they left in July, and Thor would have been age 15...ALMOST 16 when they left. They must have met up with Margit and Olaf somewhere.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  01:27:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Jan Peter,

One other thing I overlooked, in reading Theordor Thompson's obituary, AKA Tor Aslaksen, it mentioned he had brother Oluf and a sister in Norway.....and that he had returned to Norway two times.....

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 27/02/2008 01:51:41
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eibache
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  07:08:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thor living at Teigen was confirmed June 18 1871 in Gol church before he left for the US, see "15

Einar
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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  08:59:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Carsten

The Goodhue part of the puzzle DOES answer my big question about who did she know before she came over. I'm thinking Aslak might have been trying to help out Margrit by sending her to some of his family in Norway, maybe he felt guilty about the affair and illigitimate child. Lots of suposition.
Kindest Regards,
Erik.
I don't think there was any need for Aslak to send Margit over to some family members in America, in a way of comfort her or something. Or to have family members sent over. Aslak (1826-1906) married Sigrid in 1858, so he had been married for 13 years by then. I don't think he had any money or interest in sending Margit over in 1871. She left by her own free will.

At the end of the 1800 century, almost 15 000 Norwegians emigrated yearly. Between 1825-1925; about 800 000 Norwegians emigrated to America. If the living conditions in Norway was bad, the emigration increased, and vice versa. A lot of emigrants left in love of adventure. They received ""America-letters" from relatives or friends, read emigrant-adverts in the newspapers, and emigrant-agents travelled around on the contryside to sell tickets for the Emigrant-boats.

And there was a lot of places to go to. You could go almost "anywere", and you would find uncles, aunts, sisters, brothers, friends, neighbours or old classmates...

Those who emigrated often knew where to go, they had received letters etc, about where family members or friends had travelled. Often; people travelled back home after some years (when they have saved up enough money to pay for the travel), to pick up family members or recruit new field hands... Or maybe just for a vist...

It looks like there was a big emigration from Hemsedal/Gol to Goodhue. It was very common that people from the same area of Norway emigrated to the same area of the US.
Most Norwegians emigrated to the northern part of the US, like Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 27/02/2008 12:05:55
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  18:19:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[Aslak (1826-1906) married Sigrid in 1858,

Dear Jan Peter:
1st. I'm working out a timeline here and if you remember Tor Aslaksen (Theo. Thompson) was born in 1856. So that means that he was born before Aslak married Sigrid. What are the implications? They had a baby but for some reason Margrit or Aslak didn't want to get married?

2nd. Thanks to your leading me to the post in Roots Web from the gentleman from Goodhue county. I have been in touch with hime and he has pointed me to a GOL Church in Goodhue County and they are reseaching records for a possible babptism for Oluf, or any indication that they might have been members of this Church. I will advise you as soon as I learn anything.

Thank you.
Erik.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  18:37:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Carsten

I'm working out a timeline here and if you remember Tor Aslaksen (Theo. Thompson) was born in 1856. So that means that he was born before Aslak married Sigrid. What are the implications? They had a baby but for some reason Margrit or Aslak didn't want to get married?

Kindest Regards,
Erik
Yes, it could be as simple as that. Tor is born in September, so maybe he's just a result of an "incident" at a Christmas/New Year's -party? You can only speculate...

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 27/02/2008 18:41:09
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  18:45:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

Thor living at Teigen was confirmed June 18 1871 in Gol church before he left for the US, see "15



Thank you for that Eibache! So for Thoe. Thompson (AKA Tor Aslaksen we have this:
Born September 16, 1856
Christened October 12, 1856 (That was a Sunday)
Confirmed June 18, 1871 (That was a Sunday.)
Left the Tiegen Farm on June 19, the following day.
Boat sailed from Olso on July 7, 1871
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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  23:05:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Theodore A. Thompson (58) arrived Port of New York on July 20th, 1914, sailing on The Kristianiafjord, leaving Kristiania, Norway on July 8th,

Theodor was naturalised by the District Court, Douglas Co., MN on Dec 7th, 1896. Address in the US: Box 48, Brandon, Minnesota.

No sure if they travelled together, but listed just above him on the Ellis Island manifest is one Knut O. Teigen (41). Knut O. Teigen was bearer of Passport No 25145, issued March 30th 1914. Address in the US: Grenville, S. Dakota.

Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  23:36:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jan Peter,
That is an interesting . In Theodore's obituary it stated he traveled back to Norway and he brought back evergreen seeds and he planted them all around douglas county. His nickname became "gran" which I guess means evergreen. His hobby was horticulture and apparently he and his wife had a beautiful garden and orchard and he gave a large Christmas tree to the church every Christmas.

And remember there is that little tid-bit of information in his obituary that stated he still had a sister living in Norway. I'm sure he would have stayed with family when he made his trips back to the motherland.

p.s. as far as I know none of his children took a husband by the name of Knut.

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 27/02/2008 23:40:46
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Posted - 27/02/2008 :  23:50:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...but I wonder if Theodore and/or Knut went back to Tiegen because one of their family was terminally ill.

Where do you get all this information? Does this information list any additional information like purpose of trip?
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/02/2008 :  00:04:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It sure does!

Knut Olsen Teigen (travelling companion) to Theodore A. Thompson in 1914, is Theodore's cousin!
Knut is the son of Margit's brother Ole Mikkelsen Fauske-Teigen (1843-1923).

Ole Mikkelsen Fauske-Teigen (1843-1923) & Sunnev Knutsdatter Fekjo (1836-1906) had the following children:
Mekkel 1864-1955, farmer on Fauske-Teigen
Birgit* 1867-1952, married to Ola Nilsson Brandvøl
Birgit* 1870, married to Endre Trondson Jordheim -> Emigrated to America
Knut 1872 -> Emigrated to America
Ola 1874 -> Emigrated to America
Per 1878 -> Emigrated to America
Margit 1881

*Could be a writing error, I doubt that both sisters were named Birgit.
The farmbook from Hemsedal reveals that Ole was a good mason, making indoor open fireplaces (hearth).
Mekkel (1864-1955) and his wife did not have children, and were both quiet people, always happy and satisfied.
His saying was "It's good enough"...

Knut was home in Norway in 1911 and 1914.
In 1914, there was a jubilee in Hemsedal which they attended, and Knut was elected by the "Hemsedal people in America" to deliver their gift to Hemsedal community.

Theodor Thompson's obituary mentioned he had brother Oluf and a sister in Norway?

Strange that Theodor said he had a sister... It should be Aslak's daughter then, since Margit had only given birth to two children, ref census 12900.

Aslak Thorsen Bakke (1826-1906) & Sigrid Olsdtr Kariset (1837-1915) had the following children:
Gunhild 1863, married to Eirik Olson Hulbak
Ola 1866
Margit 1873-1960 married to Knut Jakobson Dekko
Kari 1876-1913, married to Ola Larsson Jordheim -> Emigrated to America. Kari came back, and died in Hemsedal.

We should have the possibility open that there could be another Aslak Thorsen Bakke in the area, although I couldn't find any in the book at the first glance.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 28/02/2008 00:20:26
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