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peder
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 Posted - 16/02/2008 : 21:28:14
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Eilias Hansen born 1851 Loiten wife=Kirstine Guild....
dau Ingeborg born april 1 1879 married John Pedersen (born march 23 1881)of Trysil nov 1 1900.
want to know Eilias family info, father /mother etc. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/02/2008 : 22:44:53
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Most likely it´s this family on farm Løvlien
Elias had one sister Marie and two brothers, Hermand and Johan.
Marie age 77 is likely his grandmother, at least she was "Føderaadskone" the former owner of the farm.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/02/2008 : 23:38:41
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Løten in Hedmark county 1900:
The whole family on Spaanestad nedre (lower).
Elias and Kristine had 5 children.
Ingeborg Eliasdr and John Pedersen had one son Einar born 1898.
It looks like Ingeborg was born in N.Redalen in Hedmark .
Here are the church books for Rendalen if you want to make look ups, and to be sure she is the right person.
The same for Løten
If N. Redalen is Øvre (Upper) or Ytre (Outher) Rendalen I don´t know.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 17/02/2008 09:11:23 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/02/2008 : 23:58:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto
If N. Redalen is Øvre (Uper) or ytre (Outher) I don´t know.
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N. Rendal is Øvre Rendal.
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DALB
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 01:58:21
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Marriage of Elias & Kirstine in Løiten - 1877 Sept 25
Elias Hansen Lovbak '51 - father - H Mikkelsen
Kirstine Gulbrandsdatter Petersborg sondre '55 - father - G Olsen
His parents, Hans Mikkelsen & Ingeborg Helgesdatter, may have married in Aamodt where the wife was from.
The children were born in Løiten -
1850 June 13 Hermann at Lobak
1851 Oct 17 Elias at Lovbak
1855 Jan 25 Marie at Lovbak
1863 Sept 11 Johan at Langsetslaaten
Birth of Hans Mikkelsen
1816 Dec 1 2 Hans to Michel Hansen & Marthe Imbretsdatter Sigstad
Marriage of Michel & Marthe -
1816 Nov 2 Michel Hansen Roseth 20 & Marthe Imbretsdatter Roseth 22 |
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DALB
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 05:43:28
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Birth of Marthe Engebretsdatter - (the wife of Michel Hansen)
1794 Oct 26 to Ingebret Olsen & Anne Christiansdatter Odegaard
Marthe and family on 1801 census - Engebret has been married 3 times.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=f10415&gardpostnr=20&personpostnr=268&merk=268#ovre
1801-telling for 0415 Leuthen
County district Parish Local parish Farm
20 Hedemarken Leuthen Leuthen Ødegaarden
Given name Last name Household pos. Age Marital status Occupation Sex
264 Engebret Olsen Huusbonde 51 Givt 3die gang Bonde og gaardbeboer M
265 Anne Christensdtr Hds kone 43 Givt første gang K
266 Ole Engebretsen Hands søn 25 Ugivt Skoemager M
267 Chresten Engebretsen Deres børn 2 M
*268 Marthe Engebretsdtr Deres børn 7 K
269 Gunnor Olsdtr Hans moder 80 Enke af første ægteskab
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Marriage of Engebret's parents
1745 June 17 Ole Olsen Hagen & Gunor Olsd Skramstad
Children - 1745 July 25 Ole to Ole Olsen Hagen & Gunnor Olsdatter
* 1748 Oct 6 Embret to Ole Olsen Jensberg & Gunnor Olsdatter
1750 Sept 29 Ole to Ole Olsen Jensberg & Gubior Olsdatter
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Marriages and children born to Engebret
1st marriage - 1771 Nov 8 Embret Olsen Jensberg & Anne Hansdatter Skrieve
death - 1772 Mar 18 - Anne Hansdatter Jensberg 23 yr 3 mo
her birth - 1748 Dec 8 Anne to Hans Siversen Skierve & Berthe Olsdatter
2nd marriage - 1772 Oct 10 enken Embret Olsen Jensberg & Berthe Nilsd Ostre Sveen
children:
1774 July 3 Anne Embret Olsen & Berthe Nilsd Jensberg
1776 Oct 6 Ole - at Jensberg (he is on the 1801 census at Ødegaarden)
1779 Feb 7 Gunnor - at Odegaard
1781 Sep 16 Elen - at Odegaard
1784 Nov 7 Anna - at Odegaard
no death found for Berthe Nilsdatter
3rd marriage - 1789 Aug 20 enkm Engebret Olsen Odegaard & Anne Christiansd Roset
children:
1790 June 20 Berthe to Engebret Olsen & Anne Christensd Qvend
death 1791 Apr 21 Berthe Engebretsd Odegaard 1
1792 Mar 18 Christen - at Odegaard
death 1794 July 20 Christen Engebretsen Odegaard 2 yr 6 mo.
1794 Oct 26 Marthe - at Odegaard (on 1801 census at Ødegaarden)
1797 Mar 19 Christian - born 12 Mar at Odegaard (no death found)
1799 Apr 7 Christen - born 31 Mar at Odegaard (on 1801 census at Ødegaarden) |
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peder
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Posted - 18/02/2008 : 18:49:36
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thanks to all who responded with info. much appreciated. I would never have found any of this.
for DALB, how did you find out so much in a short time? was this in print somewhere?
I would very much like to know Hans Mikkelsen born 1816 ,his father was michel Hansen roseth and mother Marthe Imbretsdatter, where was michel Hansen roseth born and when?
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DALB
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Posted - 19/02/2008 : 03:04:52
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I found no Mikkel born around 1796 - if he was age 20 when he married. Then I checked for his death and his age at birth would be around 1790, so I took another look. I am quite sure that this is his lineage in Løiten. He would have been married at about age 26.
death -1861 Apr 2 Mikkel Hansen Langsetsletten 71 yr 6 mo
death -1866 May 22 Marthe Embretsd Loengen 72
Birth of Mikkel - 1790 Feb 28 Michel to Hans Pedersen & Mari Helgesdatter Troppe
Mikkel's parents and children born to them - and the family in 1801 at the farm Romm
Marriage - 1780 Mar 18 Hans Pedersen Breva & Mari Helgesdatter Karud
Children:
1780 Jul 2 Inger at Breva
1782 Mar 17 Hellene at Rogstad
1784 Dec 11 Pernille at Stor Brastad
1787 Sep 17 Jens at Rokstadstuen
*1790 Feb 28 Michel at Troppe
1792 Nov 25 Haagen at Roma
1795 May 31 Kristine at Roma
1796 Oct 15 Martha at Rom death - 1796 Jan 6 - Martha Hansd Rone 11 wk 1 da
1799 June 9 Martha - born 8 June at Rom
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=3&filnamn=f10415&gardpostnr=52&personpostnr=510&merk=510#ovre
1801-telling for 0415 Leuthen
County district Parish Local parish Farm
52 Hedemarken Leuthen Leuthen Romm
Given name Last name Household pos. Age Marital status Occupation Sex
509 Hans Pedersen Huusbonde 48 Begge i første ægteskab Bonde og pladsens beboer M
510 Mari Helgesdtr Hds kone 47 Begge i første ægteskab K
511 Jens Hanssen Deres børn 14 Ugivt M
512 Mechel Hanssen Deres børn 11 M
513 Haachen Hanssen Deres børn 9 M
514 Pernille Hansdtr Deres børn 17 K
515 Marthe Hansdtr Deres børn 2 K
516 Brynild Mortensdtr Kone 85 Enke af første ægteskab Vilkaar med jord K
517 Morten Hanssen Hendes søn 55 Givt første gang Vanfør
Birth of Hans Pedersen
1753 Dec 2 Hans to Peder Olsen Brevaen & Inger Hansdatter
Birth of Mari Helgesdatter
1754 Dec 1 Mari to Helge Haagensen Rogstad & Inger Giovaldsdatter
Marriage of Helge & Inger
1754 Oct 24 Helge Haagensen Rogstad & Inger Giovaldsdatter Qvestad
Children:
*1754 Dec 1 Mari at Rogstad
1757 Apr 24 Johan at Karud
1760 Jan 27 Haagen at Karud
1764 Jan 6 Knud at Karud
1767 Aug 30 Marthe at Karud
1771 Feb 3 Anders at Karud
death - 1789 Aug 25 - Helge Haagensen Roverud 68
This data comes from the Parish transcripts from Løiten by Lloyd A Olson.
They are available through LDS - I don't know if they are on film or fiche.
Church records of Løten parish, Norway : Marriages 1731-1849, Births 1732-1851, Deaths 1732-1821
A good place to do research in Hedmark is at Solørlag - http://www.solorlag.org/ |
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DALB
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Posted - 19/02/2008 : 05:48:11
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I did not find a marriage date for Peder Olsen Brevaen & Inger Hansdatter, but their were several children born to that couple.
1748 Dec 31 Anne Peder Olsen Gylling & Inger Hansdatter
1750 Apr 12 Ole at Trettebergstuen
1751 Dec 26 Kirsti at Trettebergstuen
*1753 Dec 2 Hans to Peder Olsen Brevaen & Inger Hansdatter
1755 Aug 8 Nils at Brevaen
1758 Aug 13 Gunnor at Brevaen
1761 Feb 1 Pernille at Brevaen
1763 Apr 17 Inger at Brevaen
1765 Apr 14 Jens at Brevaen
1768 Dec 27 Michel at Brevaen
death 1800 Nov 22 Peder Olsen Breva 90
death 1772 June 17 Ingri Hansdatter Brevaen 51
remarriage of Peder - 1773 Apr 25
enkm Peder Olsen Brevaen & Enke Giertrud Olsd L. Rogstad
death 1779 Apr 1 Giertrud Olsd lille Rudstad 63 yr 4 mo
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Kåarto
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Posted - 19/02/2008 : 07:24:52
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Hans Mikkelsen was born Oct. 8, christened Dec. 2. 1816 on farm Sigstadeie, a subfarm under Sigstad.
Parents Meckel Hansen Sigstadeie and Marthe Engebretsdatter #43
Meckel Hansen and Marte Imbretsdatter Roseth married in Løten nov. 2. 1816.
Meckel Hansen age 26, bachelor on Roseth and Marthe Imbretsdatter age 22, maid on Roseth # 20
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Edited by - Kåarto on 19/02/2008 09:53:20 |
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eibache
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Posted - 19/02/2008 : 09:18:12
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Many interesting findings. May I leave some comments to some of them:
1. from posting Febr 17 - Birth of Hans Mikkelsen
1816 Dec 1 2 Hans to Michel Hansen & Marthe Imbretsdatter Sigstad - the correct date is Dec 2nd - the | actually belongs to dt "datum"
see #1
2. same posting - Marriage of Michel & Marthe -
1816 Nov 2 Michel Hansen Roseth 20 & Marthe Imbretsdatter Roseth 22 - the age of the groom reads 26 (is easily read as 20)
see #20
3. Michel, the son of Hans Persen and Mari Helgesdatter, was not born Febr 28 but christened on that day, see top right hand side here
(it is on Løten 1773 - 1800 page 142)
4. Marthe Engebretsdatter - (the wife of Michel Hansen) her mother was Anne Christensdatter, see her baptismal record of March 18 1758 on top of right hand page here
parents being Christen Larsen, Hveen and Inger Olsdatter. |
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Edited by - eibache on 28/02/2008 00:03:29 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 19/02/2008 : 10:11:37
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Age 26 fits better.
Løten 1801:
The family on Ødegården, Marthes father Engebret was from Ødegården and her mother Anne was from Roseth.
Ole age 25, shoemaker, is from his former marriage.
Widow Gunnor Olsdatter age 80 is Engebrets mother
Embret Olsen was born 1748, he was christened Oct. 6.
Parents: Ole Olsen ....berg and Gunnor Olsdatter, left page #10 from bottom
Beutiful records.
Can you translate line 2. Einar?
Ole Olsen Hagen and Gunnor Olsdatter married June 17.1745 #2
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Edited by - Kåarto on 19/02/2008 14:36:50 |
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eibache
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Posted - 19/02/2008 : 10:54:54
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The engagement and marriage record for Christen Larsen and Inger Olsdatter is the second from the top, left hand page, married Oct 7 1756, see here
Inger comes from Skillingstad. Christen was "Bygde Lehns-mand" - local sheriff. The note to the left is hard to read, but it seems like "Co****ret hjemme i Huuset efter Konges tillatelse dato Christiansborg d. 12 Augusti 1756." - Married at home after permission from the King dated August 12 1756.
Inger was baptized Nov 11 1736, see bottom of right hand page here
her parents were Ole Evensen and Aase Juulsdatter.
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Edited by - eibache on 19/02/2008 11:06:10 |
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Kåarto
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eibache
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Posted - 19/02/2008 : 11:38:16
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"Trolovet Aprilis d 29
Ole Olsen Hagen og Gunnor Olsdatt. Lille Schramstad
for dette ægteskabs riktighet i alle maader caverer
Syver Olsen Grøholt Ole Olsen Grøholt
Co****red d 17 Junii 1745" |
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Edited by - eibache on 20/02/2008 14:07:56 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 19/02/2008 : 12:33:47
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Thanks Einar.
Cavere is an old expression for to guarantee, so the two best men Syver and Ole Olsen Grøholt guarantee that this marriage in all ways was correct/legal.
Gunnor Olsdatter Skramstad was confirmed April 28. 1737, right page under Piger/Girls 2 column
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Edited by - Kåarto on 19/02/2008 19:41:22 |
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