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leemn
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 Posted - 04/03/2008 : 22:55:26
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| Using your data and the place name Hommedal I searched the 1801 census for the name Aanon. First person is Aanon Ansteensen age 56, Next is Aanon Aanonsen age 77, wife is 44 and he has four young children, quite a man. Next is Aanon Larson age 84 wife Aslov Danielsdatter age 76. Three Aanon Ellingsen, one 52, one 51 both probably unlikely due to being too young. and one 69 but no wife listed. . And lastly Aanon Olsen age 71 wife Siri Pedersdatter age 61. I wonder if any of these names especially of the wives was found in the list of marriage and births you have listed in your last post. Bringing Hommedal into the picture does certainly open up the list of potential fathers for Aanon Aanonsen. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 04/03/2008 : 23:25:50
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| Check of the 141 farms in Hommedal 1801 census did turn up Kylland but no people of interest in the list of inhabitants. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/03/2008 : 00:06:20
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Quite a job, if at all possible, to find the Aanon when the known name of the father is only Aanon. The farm name Kylland is probably where he was born and could be noted in a record.
I would guess that either Hommedal / Landvik: 1741-1848, Ministerialbok or Hommedal / Herefoss: 1740-1821, Ministerialbok would be places to search. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 05/03/2008 : 00:24:14
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| Would the book Landvik Historielag by Johan Tviete be of any use. I can access that at the local university. Your reference above to the Ministerialbok for Landvik 1741-1848 is if I read correctly a reference to the Digitalarchive parish register which you use a lot but I find almost impossible to read. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 05/03/2008 : 00:49:16
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| I took a quick look at both sections for the years 1763, 1764 and 1765 since we had narrowed the birth yerar for Aanon Aanensen down to 1764 based on the various pieces of data you and I had found. Nothing definite showed up but I make take a longer look tomorrow. Finding the childs name turned out to be not so hard. But figuring out what is the parents name is a little harder. What does the passage start out with. Does it always start with the fathers name or is there some lead in statement before the fathers name is given. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/03/2008 : 07:17:39
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Both Landvik and Herefoss records must have been written by the same person and contain:
childs name written both in the left column and in the "text" which here goes as follows could be with some variations in others records:
the fathers given name, last name, sometimes farm, "og " (and), mothers given name, last name:, "barn kalt" or "barn døpt" (child called or child baptized), the childs given name and then the godparents names. |
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leemn
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Posted - 05/03/2008 : 16:04:36
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| Thanks a lot that will help greatly. I can usually find the childs name easily but the script makes it harder to translate the body of the work. Knowing the order the data is given in will help a lot. Actually while I am stymied here at least for a little while, I have learned a whole lot, both about my family and about using the Digitalarchive site during the past few weeks. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 06/03/2008 : 04:38:46
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| eibache, would you mind looking at the record on page 433 for Herefoss in Hommedal 1740-1821. It is for the year 1767 and note the ref to Kiddel upper left corne. This includes the name Aanon Aanonsen Kylland and Grinilo Kiddelsdatter. I would be interested in what you think of the list of people in this reference, Especially the people with Kylland attached to their name. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/03/2008 : 09:19:14
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Aadne Aanonson Kylland and "qwinde" (woman) wife Gunild Kiddelsdatters son called Kiddel. Carried by Jørgen Kyllands "qwinde" Siri Olsdatter, Godparents: Thomas Nielson Bielland, Ole Aanonson Kylland, Osmund Torgiuson Kylland, Elen Olsdatter Bielland, Asgier Tellefsdatter Linden.
Since most of the persons in the 1801 census for Kylland are to young for having attended this occation it is very difficult to have any opinion based on the census. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 06/03/2008 : 16:38:06
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| Yes, I agree, thank you for the translation, I did have some of the names wrong and qwinde is a term not in my dictionary. My strategy which I will try over the next few days is to look for all references to Aanonson and Kylland in the Hommedal 1740-1821 archives. I am unable to locate a reference to the birth of a Aanon in 1764 so I will try and find other children of some Aanon from Kylland and then try and link him to Aanon Aanonsen through some other means. It is odd that the 1801 census for Kylland did not prove more fruitful. Thanks again for your help. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 07/03/2008 : 01:56:35
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| Well a serach of the Herefoss-Homedal archives for 1740 up to about 1800 including confirmations found some interesting information but no aanon annonsen or a likely father named aanon anything. Some of the people relate directly to the 1801 census for Kylland. For example Ingeborg Jorgensdotter age 49 in 1801 census is found on page 449 as Ingeborg Jorngensd Kylland 17 yrs old in 1769. And Aanon Olsen is the son of Ole Aanonsen Kylland birth is found on p440 number 6 born 4 nov 1781. It is interesting to look at that one for not only the father but also the Aanonsen and Jorgensen and Jorgensdatters listed as god parents. I also found confirmations for Aadne Aanonson Kylland, whose birth we found aboove. and for a Ole Aanonson Kylland confirmed in 1756 born in 1736. Also three birth records for Ingeborg daughters of Aadne Aanonson Kylland and Gunild Kiddelsdatter for 1759, 1761 and 1763 with Ole Anonsen as god parent. So I have found records on lots of people who it would seem could be relatives of my Aanon Aanonse but not direct links. I will keep looking. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 07/03/2008 : 17:06:44
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| Eibache, Intresting results going back in time. The archives for Herefoss-Hommedal also go back before 1740. In that data set I find Aanon Kyllands with several children listed. One intresting one is Aanon Kyllands in 1724 for Aanon. In this data set no wives or god parents are listed. Eibache you might be interested in looking at the several refences to Aanon Kyllands and his children in this data set. Start with the Herefoss-Hommedal data set for 1690-1738 and click on the 1726 data set. No page numbers are given in this data set. but if you click on 1726-1731 up pops Aanon Kylland with son Ole. Looking at the pages around this one you find other children of Aanon Kylland including the Aanon in aobut 1724. I wonder if this is the patriarch of the family and all of the various other members such as Aadne, Ole and even maybe Aanon Aanonsen descend from him. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/03/2008 : 19:54:52
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| If you look at the births and deaths for persons listed as residing on "Vrengen" in the 1802-1804 Øyestad parish records and then look those persons up in the 1801 census - the "Vrengen" location would appear most often to tie back to the farm(s) "Asdal" and "Stranda Under Asdal". The Matrikkelutkastet av 1950 Aust-Agder Øyestad herad, Øyestad sokn - lists a large number of holdings under the name "Vrængen". |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 08/03/2008 : 04:15:54
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I just finished a review of the digital archives for Herefoss-Hemmedal for both sections 1690-1738 and 1740-1821. I haven't reviewed all of second set yet but will in the next few days.
This is what I have learned about Aanon Kylland and his family.
First record of Aanon Kylland is in Inroductin section year 1719 Thereafter he had the following children
Siru(?) 1719 Jorgen 1722 Aanon 1724 Ole 1726 Age 1733 a second Ole 1736
Aadne was found in confirmatin records for 1743 at 16 giving a birth year of 1727 no birth record was found on the first look.
For Jorgen children Ingeborg and Aanon were found in confirmation, calculated birth years of 1752 and 1753
For Aadne children Ingeborg three times 1759 ,1760,1763 and Kiddel 1767 all in birth records
For Ole, probably the second Ole children Aanon 1781
No chld for Aage
Most importantly no children for Aanon
If proof can be found one can conjecture a family line of
Aanon Kylland born about 1700 Introduction in 1719 with at least six children including
Aanon Aanonson Kylland born 1724 birth record in old section year 1724 no page numbers
Aanon Aanonson Kylland born 1764 based on calculation from marriage record no birth records found to date
Lars Aanonsen Kylland born
Now I need another source or two to really provide some proof of the family line. Anybody have an idea what bygdebok I could find Kylland history in. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 08/03/2008 : 04:23:09
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| Hopkins, I confess with all of the wading through the old pages of the digital archives I have not had time today to look over your latest post, but I promise I will to it tomorrow, thanks for all the help |
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