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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 08/03/2008 : 08:03:15
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This is what I have seen
Aanon Kylland = Aanon Willumsen?
Willum Sundtiøn baptized Anond April 3 1692
Aanon Willumsen Sundtiøn married Ane Knutsdatter, Espestøl May 21 1720. Children:
Sept 15 1720 - Sjur
Aug 23 1722 – Jørgen
Nov 12 1724 - Aanon
Sept 22 1726 - Ole
Jan 4 1733 - Gunnild
Sept 29 1736 - Ole
Aanon Kylland normally had his children confirmed 18-20 years old as was the custom in Hommedal at that time. I am afraid that Aadne Aanonsen Kylland, 16 years confirmed 1743 may be wrong and could well have been Aanon Aanonsen, 19 years. |
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Edited by - eibache on 08/03/2008 08:28:16 |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 08/03/2008 : 16:48:55
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| Although Aadne shows up in the Herefoss-Hommedal 1740-1821 with four children three Ingeborgs on pp 428, 1759 no 4, as well as on ,429,430 and then Kiddel on p 433 top of right page and clearly looks like Aadne Aanonson. Interesting that I never found any birth records for Aanon Aanonson. Are the names Aadne and Aanon somewhat the same. I am still missing that connecton between Aanon Aanonson born Nov 12, 1724 and Aanon Aanonson born 1764. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/03/2008 : 22:15:54
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| Are the names Aadne and Aanon somewhat the same? - that all depends on how the names were pronounced - could be misinterpreted but again that is perhaps to hope for too much - further evidence would be needed, which of course has not been found so far. |
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leemn
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Posted - 08/03/2008 : 22:44:14
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| I guess my real question was why do we not find a birth record for Aadne when we see him as a father several times. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 02:21:20
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| I guess I missed this first time through, but there is a Aanon son of Aadne Aanonson Kylland and Gunhild Kiddelsdatter born in 1758. Eibache, what would he have used for a last name. Would he have been called Aanon Aadnenson (that is not a name I have ever seen) or some other last name. Also could you look at the god parents and witnesses, are there two Ole Kyllands there, those would certainly be the two sons of Aanon Kyllands born in 1724. Could this be our Aanon Aanonson Kyllands who we are assuming was born in 1764 based on marriage records. I will keep looking |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 02:24:39
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| eibache, I forgot to add that the above reference to Aaanon is from p 427 lower right number 3 entry of those for 1758 for Herefoss-Hommedal archives |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 03:55:08
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| Marriage record for Aadne Aanonson Kylland and Gunhild Kittelsdatter ????? in 1757 on p 461 Herrefoss-Hommedal. Would like to know if you can read the brides farm name. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 04:30:48
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| under death and burial records p 470 year 1767 we find Kiddel Aadneson Kylland. So in this case we see the name stays with Aadneson. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 04:51:20
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| Also same page year 1780 a Aanon Aadnesen Kylland and on p 471 Aadnon Aanonsen Kylland died at 48 years old. and in same list number 8 Gunhild Kiddelsdatter Kylland |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 08:07:54
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The best I can do for Aanon baptized March 28 1758:
Aadne Aanonsen Kylland og Gunild Kittelsdatters barn kaldt Aanon
Christen fra Handalsejet, Are Tejd, Terkel Lille Handal, ? Ole Kylland, Ole Kylland den yngre, Birthe Christensdatter Hegref, Gunlow Aanonsdatter ?
He would definitely be Aanon Aadnesen.
The brides farm name is Mosberg af Moeland Sogn.
Kiddel Aadneson burried 1767 = Aadne Aanonson Kylland and Gunhild Kittelsdatters son
Aanon Aadnesen Kylland burried in 1780 was 26 years old, if parents were Aadne Aanonson Kylland and Gunhild Kittelsdatter he would have been an "uægte" son. Should the age have been 22 years?
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 19:12:28
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Well there is so much data here on the Aanon kylland family that I had to make a spreadsheet to hope to understad it all. Some thoughts
Aanon Aanonson Kylland was born in 1724 and nothing further is found on him in the Herefoss-Hommedal parish archives. No confirmation, no marriage, no children, no death. Why,? It likely means that he moved at a fairly young age to another farm where he was married and had children. Need to find that farm and parish.
We know he is not the same as Aadne Aanonson Kylland, Aadne was probably born about 1727 (confirmation) or 1725 (death notice for year 1773 on p471 and states that he died at 48). Whereas Aanon was born in 1724. Also Kiddel died with name Kiddel Aadneson not Aanonson. |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 19:21:15
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Expanding on my short reply. We know a lot about the Aanon Kylland family but not much about Aanon Aanonson Kylland. Is that because he left Kylland farm and Herrefoss-Hommedal parish early in life and married and raised children at another location.
We have a lot of information on the other children of Aanon Kylland. We have his brothers and sisters, They are Jørgen, Sjur, Ole, Aadne, Gunhild, and Ole the younger.
We know many of their children, and it would appear that two of them Ingeborg Jørgensdatter and Ole Aanonson still lived at Kylland for the 1801 census. However many of the family had died by this census and it does not appear they had a very active role in the farm. Eibach comments on my summary |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 20:08:18
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Aanon Aanonson Kylland born November 12, 1724 at Kylland, Herefoss-Hommedal parish, Father Aanon Kylland, Information found mainly in the Herefoss-Hommedal parish records
Aanon Aanonsen Vrengen born 1764, died 1800 Braastadiet, Øyestad, Aust-Agder. Information found in 1801 census Brastad, Øyestad and Øyestad Bygdebok.
Hopkins, I started to reveiw the names in the 1801 census for two farms mentioned by you. So far I have not made a connection but I need to go into more depth in the Vrengen parish records.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 21:18:39
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Vrengen NOT a parish. Name of a number of subfarms.
I missed when you decided the Aanon Aanonsen born in Øyestad 1764 was NOT the man you were looking for. Where in this 5 pages is that? |
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leemn
Junior member
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 22:02:24
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| No, Aanon Aanonse is still the man. I have good data from the Øyestad Bygdebok on him and his family including his son Lars, who is my great-great-grandfather. and his two wives. What I am seeking is his father. A good candidate is Aanon Aanonson Kylland, however I lack any connection between the two men. What I was seeking over the past two pages of desperate posts was a reference in the Herrefoss-Hommedal parish archives showing that Aanon Aanonsen Kylland had a son around 1764. But other than the birth record of Aanon Aanonson Kylland there is an amazing lack of any reference to him, while at the same time there are lots of references to his brothers and sisters and their families. Thus leading me to give up on looking any more in the Herefoss-Hommedal parish records and try someplace else. Tommorrow I will again return to the U of M library and try to find a bygdebok that will be useful to dig into. Thanks for correcton on Vrengen. I will try to find a bygdebok for Vrengen or the other two farms who listed. |
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