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diablo61-99
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Posted - 15/03/2008 :  18:31:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

This is my first post so please bear with me. I have located a relative who emigrated from SCHONWICK about 1880 to America. I have not found Schonwick Norway, is there or was there such a place? Was this a farm? My Relative's Surname was Severson.Any help would be appreciated.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 15/03/2008 :  19:02:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This could be Skånevik in Etne parish in Hordaland county located at the population centre at Skåneviksjøen in the southern part of the county (not visible by name on this map).

These are the church records for Skånevik local parish in Etne parish if you want to make lookups for yourself.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 15/03/2008 20:39:24
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Hopkins
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Posted - 15/03/2008 :  20:05:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RAS- What was your relative's given name? year of birth? Names and dates for any other members of the family that might also be from "Schonwick"? Where did they settle in the US?

We might be able to give your research a real kick start.
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diablo61-99
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Posted - 15/03/2008 :  20:36:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Great grandfather was Sever Severson, born Feb. 1846. His Father & Mother were Sever Lawson & Mary Knutson. He had several Brothers who also immigrated To America around the same time 1880. They setteled in the state of Illinois. Severs Brothers were Knute, John B: 1836,Lars B: 1841, Ole B:1844, KnuteB:1850,Iver B: 1864. All were involved in farming and coal mining. Thats the lot of them, Most setteled in the town of Gardner, Illinois, Sever lived in the town of Braceville, Illinois. Again thanks for the help.

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jwiborg
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Posted - 15/03/2008 :  21:14:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A possibility among the emigrants from Bergen:

Syvert Syvertsen Kallem (34) from Etne, Hordaland, emigrated from Bergen on Oct 20th, 1880.

Travelling with him:
Britha Ingemorssdatr Kallem, wife, b 1850
Syvert Syvertsen Kallem, b 1873
Siri Syvertsdatr Kallem b. 1859 (?)
Ingemor Syvertsen Kallem b. 1876
Amund Syvertsen Kallem b. 1874

Jan Peter

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Hopkins
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Posted - 15/03/2008 :  21:19:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The emigration records through the port of Bergen show Severt Severtsen leaving on or about 20 Oct 1880 - with a wife and children!! That's a surprise! But then in the US censuses it would seem to have been so.... but the oldest children are no longer living with parents...
He lists a farm name of Kallem and indicates that he is from Etne district (history connects the area to Skånevik) of Hordaland.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=26&filnamn=EMIBERG&gardpostnr=7088&sokefelt=skjul

I feel I should recognize the "Kallem" farm from previous research but I'm drawing a blank at the moment. I'll post again later if I can recall.

Brother Iver lists various emigration years in US censuses for Grundy Co. Ill. -- somewhat hard to read but looked liked 1885 in one and 1888 in another.

Good information for study while we continue to check other 'easy' items -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/articles.html


Ha ha on me - That's what happens when you pause too long before hitting the button to send.

Edited by - Hopkins on 15/03/2008 21:32:16
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Hopkins
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Posted - 15/03/2008 :  21:56:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The child called "Ingemor Syvertsen Kallem" at the time of emigration was born on Kaldheim farm in Stødle parish of Etne district. His father is then listed as Sjur Sjursen (not uncommon in this part of Norway). The record lists that Sjur Sjursen is 29 yrs old and his wife is 26 yrs old at the time of this birth. It futher indicates that they married in 1871.

Record #7

The history of the Kaldheim farm starts on page 383 of "Etne-soga", 5 volumes by Ståle Dyrvik.
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diablo61-99
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Posted - 16/03/2008 :  14:27:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am overwhelmed with the amount of data you folks have sent me in a short time. If there is any other facts I can send please ask. I think I need a program that will translate Norwegian to English. All My Severson relatives stayed in the Grundy county area and I have photos of their graves. After I have read the information about the hardships folks had on the crossings in your website I can see how people wanted to carve out a life for themselves in this country with hard work. thank you all agai


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Hopkins
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Posted - 16/03/2008 :  15:09:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For translating try several websites (AND consider buying a good Norwegian-English dictionary)
http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na17.html
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/census_abbreviations.html

Study the basics (given earlier) and prepare for a really fun ancestor hunt.

Always remember the "spelling problem" you've just learned. There was NO correct spelling. They spelled it as they heard it and many times the writers of the parish records were strongly influenced by WHERE they had been educated.

Etne and Skånevik areas of Hordaland are very well documented with available parish church records and bygdebøker. I've seen and used the Etne books in the Family History Library in Salt Lake City and most portions of the older Skånevik books are available for your use on LDS microfilm #1440059 - Øvstebø farm information starts on page 246 of volume 2 of the "Skåneviksoga - Åkra"
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eibache
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Posted - 16/03/2008 :  19:50:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe I am the only one to be confused here, lots of inaccuracies.
If Sever Severson = Sjur Sjursen from Skånevik with parents Sever Lawson & Mary Knutson = Sjur Larssen and Martha Knudsdatter is RAS Great Grandfather - I don't see how Syvert Syvertsen, Kallem fits into the picture even though he was born Febr 13 1846. His parents were Sjur Poulsen and Brithe Villumsdatter!

Siblings of Syvert Syvertsen were
Christian born Aug 25 1832
Ingeborg born Jan 6 1834
Anna born Oct 26 1836
Madli born May 31 1840
these persons are nowhere near the siblings RAS has mentioned, which are
Knut
Lars 1841
Ole 1844
John 1836
Knut 1850
Iver 1864
On the other hand the years born for these persons have not been confirmed for others than Knute 1850 - maybe they were not siblings but just came from Skånevik?

The info on Syvert Syvertsen and his family should be corrected as follows:
Sjur born Febr 13 1846, confirmed Nov 4 1860 married Britha Ingemundsdatter Nov 26 1872
Their children:
Son Sjur Febr 21 1873 bapt. March 2
Son Ingemund March 6 1875 bapt at home confirmed in church March 29
Daughter Sigrid May 31 1877 bapt June 17
Son Åmund Aug 26 1879 bapt Aug 3
Brithe born Oct 19 1847, confirmed Oct 12 1862 had parents Ingemund Tollevsen, Haaland and Siri Christensdatter married Nov 17 1839.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 18/03/2008 15:55:39
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Hopkins
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Posted - 17/03/2008 :  04:11:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Einar - It is difficult to help you prove or disprove those possibilities without knowing what areas you were looking in. Etne and/or Skånevik for which?
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eibache
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Posted - 17/03/2008 :  06:43:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Look-ups concerning:
The info on Syvert Syvertsen and his family should be corrected as follows:
Sjur married Britha Ingemundsdatter Nov 26 1872, see #7
Their children:
Son Sjur Febr 21 1873 bapt. March 2, see #4
Son Ingemund March 6 1875 bapt at home confirmed in church March 29, see #7
Daughter Sigrid May 31 1877 bapt June 17, see #7
Son Åmund Aug 26 1879 bapt Aug 3, see top here

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 17/03/2008 07:07:23
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eibache
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Posted - 17/03/2008 :  06:54:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Look-ups concerning:
Syvert Syvertsen, Kallem was born Febr 13 1846. His parents were Sjur Poulsen and Brithe Villumsdatter, see #6
Siblings of Syvert Syvertsen were
Christian born Aug 25 1832, see #10
Ingeber (Ingeborg) born Jan 6 1834, see #3
Anna born Oct 26 1836, see #11
Maline (Madli) born May 31 1840, see #7

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 17/03/2008 07:07:46
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diablo61-99
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Posted - 17/03/2008 :  18:46:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went through my records and copied the data I have on Sever Severson Born 1846 . Wife Bertha Hollon Oct 22 1847 They were married about 1873. Children born to the couple were Edward March 6 ,1873, Eddie H. August 1879 , Sarah December 1881,Christiana December 21 1883, Sadie Feburary 1886. Berthas parents were Edward Hollon & Sarah Hallan. It seems that we are getting somewhere.

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Hopkins
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Posted - 17/03/2008 :  20:50:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The son you call Edward was born/baptised as Ingemund in March 1875 Etne, Hordaland, Norway. The son called Eddie was born/baptised as Åmund in August 1879 Etne. Sarah, Christiana and Sadie were born in Illinois after the family emigrated Their choices for new American names are always interesting.

At least one of "Sever Severson"s neighbors in Braceville township of Grundy Co., Illinois was also from the "Kaldheim" farm(s) in Etne, but from another household there. In the US this man was called Knut Kaldem and no obvious family relationship can be seen from the limited information available.

Sever Severson's parents were not "Sever Lawson & Mary Knutson" but are as listed above in the link for his birth that Einer provided above. Relationships to the other Seversons of Grundy Co. Illinois appear difficult to verify and you should check that information VERY carefully. Sever's father, Sjur Paulsen, died on the Kaldheim farm in 1864 at the age of 69.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=gr12111863&gardpostnr=77&sokefelt=skjul
There are two very young boys in Etne in the 1801 Norwegian census named "Siur Paulsen" - I'd guess that the first of these two possibles is probably the right one. You'll need to do some step-by-step careful research to be sure.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=15&filnamn=f11211&gardpostnr=21&sokefelt=skjul
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=18&filnamn=f11211&gardpostnr=70&sokefelt=skjul
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eibache
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Posted - 18/03/2008 :  07:01:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The record for Sjur Paulsens death and burrial is #10

Einar
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