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Lester Hanson
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 Posted - 14/04/2008 : 22:57:48
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Here is another child born to Tørger and Ingebør. Løden, born 21 Oct. 1820. Left page.
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eibache
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Posted - 14/04/2008 : 23:29:17
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døpt Barnet Frantsvies Faderen Tørger Fredriksen Haarstad og Moderen Ingebor Olsdatter
Widnerne John Pedersen Aas og Ole Olsen Lundeng og Marit Gundersdatter Wold og Marit Fredriksdatter Haarstad og Ann Halvengsdatter Haarstad |
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Lester Hanson
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Posted - 15/04/2008 : 01:25:22
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Wow! Is "Frantsvies" a boy or a girl? This name has to be somewhat rare.
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Lester Hanson
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Posted - 15/04/2008 : 01:36:46
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Kelly,
There could be more siblings to Arnt, but the birth records from 1807 to 1813 are not available on line.
Les
They weren't available for me, but Jan Peter found them, see below.
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Edited by - Lester Hanson on 15/04/2008 15:32:34 |
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kithielynn
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Posted - 15/04/2008 : 06:48:41
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Hi, this is hard for me to understand. Could you put it in English for me? It would be greatly appreciated.
døpt Barnet Frantsvies Faderen Tørger Fredriksen Haarstad og Moderen Ingebor Olsdatter
Widnerne John Pedersen Aas og Ole Olsen Lundeng og Marit Gundersdatter Wold og Marit Fredriksdatter Haarstad og Ann Halvengsdatter Haarstad |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/04/2008 : 07:44:07
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Strange name, I agree, but it was not uncommon in Meldal around 1800, see 1801 census for Sør-Trøndelag, Melbu and search for given name starts with Fran.
from this I would say Frantsviis could be better - it was a female name. Often a mans name was the origin, here Frants - Frantsviis, other examples Christen - Christiane, Ole - Oleane, Jørgen - Jørgine etc.
The record translated: baptized Frantsviis The father Torger Fredriksen and the mother Ingebor Olsdatter. The witnesses John Pedersen Aas and Ole Olsen Lundeng and Marit Gundersdatter Wold and Marit Fredriksdatter Haarstad and Ann Halvengsdatter Haarstad. |
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Edited by - eibache on 15/04/2008 07:50:10 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 15/04/2008 : 13:10:34
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Children of Torger Fredriksen & Ingeborg Olsdr:
Marit Torgersdr, chr: 24 MAR 1805, Haarstad, Rennebu, Sør Trøndelag
Frantsvis Torgersdr, chr: 28 JUN 1807, Haarstad, Rennebu, Sør Trøndelag
Frederic Torgersen, chr: 04 MAR 1809, Haarstad, Rennebu, Sør Trøndelag
Giertrud Torgersdr, chr: 23 SEP 1810, Haarstad, Rennebu, Sør Trøndelag
Ole Torgersen, chr: 07 FEB 1813, Haarstad, Rennebu, Sør Trøndelag
Arnt Torgersen, chr: 18 JUN 1815, Haarstad, Rennebu, Sør Trøndelag
Lodin Torgersen, born 28 JUL 1818, Haarstad, Rennebu, Sør Trøndelag. Dead 04 AUG 1818
Lodin Torgersen, born 21 OCT 1820, Haarstad, Rennebu, Sør Trøndelag
Whit Sunday was 17th of May in 1807, so the christening date for Frantsvis should be June 28th.
Frantzisse (Frandsvis) Klestsdatter Jachobi was an immigrant to the nearby community Kvikne ca 1635 with her husband Frants Jensen, so the name could come from that family. They came from Thuringia in Germany ("Thüringen"), and Frants was a charcoal-burner and was sent to the area to improve the conditions in the Kvikne coppermines.
Grete Ravlo born 1920 married to Lorentz Kvål, Steinkjer has a cabin in Nerskogen, and they have a bed there which used to belong to Gretes ggg-grandmother, Frantsvis Torgersdr. Hårstad 1807-1892.
The bed was moved from Nørgard Hårstad in Rennebu to Hofstad in Verdal in 1831, when Frantsvis and her husband Jon Andersen Risan (1800-1847) bought the Hofstad farm in Verdal.
Frantsvis Torgersdr Hårstad married Jon Andersen Risan on 09-JUN-1829
Children:
Anders Jonsen Hofstad Salberg, born 08-Feb-1828, dead 04-Apr-1901
Torger Jonsen Hofstad, born 18-May-1830
As a widow Frantsvis had the Øvre Hofstad farm for 7 years, until she married Ellev Andersen from the Sør-Tiller farm in 1853.
She handed the farm over to her son Torger Jonsen the following year. Fransvis died on Sør-Tiller in 1892.
Fransvis
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Edited by - jwiborg on 15/04/2008 16:22:20 |
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Lester Hanson
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Posted - 15/04/2008 : 18:16:47
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The 1865 Census has Løden Torgersen and family at Rennebu.Løden
Here is Løden's oldest son John and family in the 1900 census for Renneboe.
John
And Løden's youngest son Torger and family listed in the 1900 census for Renneboe. Torger
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Lester Hanson
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kithielynn
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Posted - 16/04/2008 : 00:35:19
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| I really want to thank all of you for helping me.Now I have to get this all put together. I am amazed at what you are finding. I could have never done it by myself. I started to look at the dictionary to figure out words and see if I can find the original farm. I'm still working on that and to see where they moved around. Thanks |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/04/2008 : 13:18:16
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Hi,
the Hårstad farm is located in Rennebu, Sør-Trøndelag, 1.5 hrs south of Trondheim. The city center for the rural area is Berkåk.
The Hofstad farm is located in Verdal, Nord-Trøndelag, 1.5 hrs north of Trondheim. Located at the red mark by the Leksdalsvannet lake in the upper right corner of the map below.
Hårstad:
Hofstad:
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Edited by - jwiborg on 16/04/2008 13:27:41 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/04/2008 : 15:22:33
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quote:
I really want to thank all of you for helping me.Now I have to get this all put together. I am amazed at what you are finding. I could have never done it by myself. ...
The real joy of this hobby is being able to do it yourself. You can! There are a number of excellent materials available online for your study and the number of Norwegian resources available online for research increases almost daily. Study, practice, enjoy!
Ancestors From Norway articles
Tips on Using Digitalarkivet
Norwegian census abbreviations
Norwegian censuses on NHDC website (instructions included)
Links and more links
The detail available in the parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005.
The Digitalarkivet web site - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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kithielynn
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Posted - 17/04/2008 : 04:39:41
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kithielynn
Junior member
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Posted - 20/04/2008 : 17:37:04
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can anyone translate this for me?
About Harstad, Arn Eriksen
f Arn ERiksen Hårstad. Född omkring 1590. [1] Död omkring 1650. [1] Bruker. Bruker. Född omkring 1590. [1] Död omkring 1650. [1] Hårstad, Nørrigard blev delt omlag 1600, antagelig først delt i to like store deler, Nørrigard og Søstuggu. Deretter blev Utstuggu skilt ut fra Søstuggu. Nørrigard fikk derfor like stor skyld som Søstuggu og Utstuggu tilsammen. I 1645 bodde det 6 mennesker på over 12 år på garden, deriblant Fredrik og kona hans. I 1635 er Fredrik med å skrive under en avtale om førsel vedr Innset/Kvikne. |
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eibache
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Posted - 20/04/2008 : 23:04:44
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| f Arn ERiksen Hårstad. Born about 1590. [1] Dead about 1650. [1] User. User. Born about 1590. [1] Dead about 1650. [1] Hårstad, Nørrigard (the northern farm) was split about 1600, probably first in two equal parts, Nørrigard (the northern farm) and Søstuggu (the southern cottage). Then Utstuggu (the outer cottage) was parted from Søstuggu. Nørrigard therefore got an equal dept as Søstuggu and Utstuggu together. In 1645 6 people were living on the farm, among others Fredrik and his wife. In 1635 Fredrik takes part as a signee of an agreement concerning førsel (I don't know what this is supposed to be) concerning Innset/Kvikne. |
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