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kithielynn
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 Posted - 23/04/2008 : 03:21:56
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Emigration on the bark Franklin on 28 Apr 1870. Destination Quebec, Canada:
Arnt Torgersen Solem (54)
Berit Jørgensdatter (46)
Thomas Arntsen (16)
Johan Arntsen (12.5)
Ingeborg Arntsdatter (9.5)
Anne Arntsdatter (4)
I cannot find Johan or Ingeborg in South Dakota. How do I find them. No one in my family knows of them. Where do I search for them? This is the census when they homesteaded.
Census-1880 for Spink, Union, Dakota Territory
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Name: Solem
Home in 1880: Spink, Union, Dakota Territory
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Birthplace: Nor
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Dorthea J. Scott (I'm not sure why this is in the census record. I think it should be Beret)
Father's birthplace: Nor
Mother's birthplace: Nor
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Household Members:
Name Age
Solem 68
Dorthea J. Scott Solem 56
Thomas Solem 26
Anna Solem 13
Ole Oleson 22
Andrew Oleson 22
Emma Oleson 35
Thomas Oleson 28
Knud Oleson 22
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kithielynn
Junior member
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2008 : 21:31:27
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can anyone put this into english for me?
FRedriksen Hårstad, Torger
1777-1863
Bonde på Hårstad og eier fra 1804 1829.
Född 1777. [1]
Döpt 1777-09-14. [1]
Död 1863.
Hårstad med bøksel 1 spand 1 øre er gått over fra nu avdøde Løden Olsen Bjerkaker til stedsønnen Torger Fredriksen 7. juli 1804 for 400 Rdr. Løden døde i 1804.
Samtidig har ovenmeldte Torger Fredriksen ved kontrakt forplikter seg til å ha beholdt den halve gårg Hårstad 2 øre, imot halvdelen av alle årlige utgifters årlige svarelse, så lenge han finder det for godt
Hårstad 1 spand 1 øre av eieren Torger Fredriksen ved kontrakt forplikter seg til at hans svage søster Riborg Fredriksdatter for livstid skal nyde et vist bestemt opphold og fri underholdning på visse vilkår. 21 august 1812
23. februar 1829. Skjøte fra Torger Fredriksen til sønnen Fredrik Torgersen på 1 sp 21 markl i gården Hårstad for 500 spdr |
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 18/05/2008 : 23:14:37
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Many special law words, some don´t exist in our languide today, hard to translate, hopefully you´ll understand.
How much land 1 spand, 2 øre, 1 spand 1 øre or 1 sp 22 markl was in the farm I dont know.
Torger Fredriksen Hårstad, farmer on Hårstad and owner from 1804-1829.
Born 1777
Christened Sept. 14. 1777
Dead 1863.
Hårstad including the leased land (1 spand 1 øre was a part of land) is taken ower from late Løden Olsen Bjerkakers step son Torger Fredriksen on July 7. 1804 for 400 Riksdaler. Løden died 1804.
At the same time Torger Fredriksen by contract put under an obligation to keep half of the farm Hårstad and to pay for half of the costs as long as it suits him.
Hårstad by the owner Torger Fredriksen put under an obligation, by a public contract on August 21. 1812, to secure his weak/sic sister Riborg a surtein standard of living and free food for the rest of her life.
February 23. 1829 deed (properrty) from Torger Fredriksens to his son Fredrik Torgersen takes ower a part of the land in farm Hårstad (1 sp 21 mark) for 500 Spesiedaler was officially published.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 18/05/2008 23:47:52 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/05/2008 : 08:42:09
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If it is of interest the baptismal record for Torger Fridrichsen born 1777, baptized Sept 14, is #25
his parents were Friderich Torgersen and Marit Nielsdatter.
Friderich Torgersen and Marit Nielsdatter married March 31 1776, see #4 from the top here
Fridrich died in 1791, see here
he was then 47 years old - he was baptized April 5 1744, see
here
His parents Torger Fridericson and Marit Svendsdatter were married April 11 1737, see here
Marit Nielsdatter Stavne was baptized April 15 1753, see here
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kithielynn
Junior member
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51 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 14:50:08
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kithielynn
Junior member
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51 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 14:56:28
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Could you help me with this one?
fff Torger FRedriksen Hårstad. Född omkring 1702. [1] Död 84 år gml i 1786, 84 år gml. [1] Bonde på Hårstad 1741-1781. farm owner Bonde på Hårstad 1741-1781. Född omkring 1702. [1] Död 84 år gml i 1786, 84 år gml. [1] "Torger Fredriksen ved skjøte eller gavebrev solgt og overdraget til sin sønn Svend Torgersen hans tilkommende broderlodd 1 øre 14 2/5 marklag med bøksel til odel for 200 Rdr betaling den 26 august1769 Torger solgte videre 26. februar 1777 den halve del med bøksel 2 øre til sønnen Fredrik Torgersen for 125 Rdr. Torger Fredriksen og sønnen Svend Torgersen solgte Hårstad med bøksel 1 spand 1 øre til den ældste sønn Fredrik Torgersen for 300 Rdr. Dette skjedde 2. januar 1781. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/05/2008 : 17:09:15
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Hope this make sence to you, this old lawmaterial is hard to translate.
Torger Fredriksen Hårstad born about 1702, he died at age 84 in 1786. Farmer on Hårstad from 1741-1781.
Torger Fredriksen´s deed (property) or as a gift he sold and handed over to his son Svend Torgersen his "broderlodd" his allodial birthright (as fredrik Torgersens brother) 1 øre 14 2/5 marklag (an old measurement for a piece or a part of land in a farm), "med bøksel" including the leasehold land and the "odel" allodial birthright for 200 Riksdaler, the payment was on August 26.1769.
February 26. 1777 Torger sold his part (50%) including the leasahold 2 øre to his son Fredrik Torgersen for 125 Riksdaler. Torger Fredriksen and his son Svend Torgersen sold Hårstad including the leashold 1 spand 1 øre to the oldest son Fredrik Torgersen for 300 Riksdaler. This took place on January 2. 1781.
Here is an English version of the Norwegian Odel/Odelsrett still exisiting in Norway as the only country in the world. I have been told Minnesota still has a "simulare" law, click here
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Edited by - Kåarto on 20/05/2008 17:23:41 |
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kithielynn
Junior member
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2008 : 18:32:16
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I do have some more that I need help with if that is okay. You have been a great help. Here is a couple I need in english. Thanks
ERiksen Hårstad, Arn
1590?-1650?
Bruker.
Född omkring 1590. [1]
Död omkring 1650. [1]
Hårstad, Nørrigard blev delt omlag 1600, antagelig først delt i to like store deler, Nørrigard og Søstuggu. Deretter blev Utstuggu skilt ut fra Søstuggu. Nørrigard fikk derfor like stor skyld som Søstuggu og Utstuggu tilsammen. I 1645 bodde det 6 mennesker på over 12 år på garden, deriblant Fredrik og kona hans. I 1635 er Fredrik med å skrive under en avtale om førsel vedr
and this one:
ARntsen Hårstad, Torger
1625?-(...)
Bruker Nørgard Hårstad 1663-1709.
Född omkring 1625. [1]
Död 1709, 93 år gml. [1]
1689, Munderingspenge til oberstløytnant Fyhn. Torger betalte 13 Rdr.
Ved Prestens manntall i 1664-1666 var Torger 40 år. Dvs født 1624-1626
1701, 80 år , gammel soldat
and this one:
Eriksen Hårstad, Fredrik
1595-1663
Bruker 1635-1663.
Född 1595.
Död 1663.
Var i 1635 med å skrive under en avtale om førsel av malm og proviant vedr. Innset/Kvikne. Fredrik og kona bodde på garden i 1645
Fredrik skattet i 1657 for en av de største buskapene i bygda.
and this one:
Bonde og eier av Hårstad fra 1781-1790.
Född 1744. [1]
Döpt 1744-04-12. [2]
Död 47 år gml i 1790, 47 år gml. [2]
Fredrik Torgersen døde i 1790 og i 1793 blev Hårstad av samtlige barns formynder solgt til stefaren Løden Olsen Bjerkaker på visse vilkår for 399 Rdr.
TOrgersen Hårstad, Fredrik
1809-1889
Född 1809. [1]
Döpt 1809-02-19. [1]
Död 1889-09-07. [1]
1829. Skjøte på 1 spand 21 marklag fra Torger Fredriksen til Fredrik Torgersen for 500 Rdr.
1829. Kårkontrakt fra Fredrik Torgersen til foreldre og søskende.
1863. Skjøte fra Fredrik Torgersen til sønnen Torger Fredriksen på gårdene Hårstad og Hårstadkroen 1 spand 1 øre for 1000 Spdr.
1863. Kår fra Torger Fredriksen til foreldrene.
1871.12.5. Kontrakt om rett til laksefiske i Orkla i 10 år mellem Torger Fredriksen og Parker og Simond. |
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kithielynn
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 21/05/2008 : 18:36:22
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This is my gggrandfather who I would like information on the farm he went to and what happened to it since he left to come to the US. Everyone else that I have traced back is the harstad farm last name. I would like to find out why he left and find living relations to tell me things which I find hard to find.
Arnt Torgersen Hårstad. Kjøpte halve Solem .
Född 1815. [1]
Döpt 1815-06-18. [1]
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/05/2008 : 20:51:51
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Eriksen Hårstad, Arn
1590-1650
"Bruker" User of he farm.
Born about 1590
Dead about 1650.
Håsrstad, Nørrigard (a local pronunciation for the Northern farm) was split up about 1600. First probably in two equal parts, Nørrigard and Søstuggu (Norhern and Southern Hårstad). Then Søstuggu was split up in two farms, Utstuggu (Outher Hårstad) and Søstuggu. The value "Skyld" for Nørrigard was the same as for the two other farms together. In 1645 6 people older than 12 years lived on the farm, among them Fredrik and his wife. In 1635 Fredrik signed an agreement concerning "førsel" (not sure, likel acting about a road, trespassing etc.)
"Skyld" valued the farm if it was sold, by inheritance and set the tax paid to the king.
Arntsen Hårstad , Torger
1625
User of Nørrigard Hårstad 1663-1709
Born about 1625, dead about 1709, age 93
1689, "Munderingspenge" to Colonel Lieutenant Fyhn, Torger paid 13 Riksdaler (Munderingspenger was a tax ment for uniforms to the soldiers)
"Ved prestens mantall" the 1664-66 census, Torger was 40 years, i.e. born about 1624-26.
1701, age 80, an old soldier.
Eriksen Hårstad Fredrik
1595-1663
User of the farm 1635-63
Born 1595
Dead 1663
Signed an agreement in 1635 consernig "Førsel" of Ore and Provisions concerning Inset/Kvikne(likely two farms) Fredrik and his wife lived on the farm in 1645. Fredrik paid tax for one of the largest Lifestocks in the country side.
"Bonde og eier" Farmer and owner of Hårstad 1781-1790
Born 1744, christened April 12. 1744. Died at age 47 in 1790.
Fredrik Torgersen died in 1790 and in 1793 Hårstad, on behalf of all the children, their Guardian sold the farm to the step father Løden Olsen Bjerkaker on certain conditions for 399 Riksdaler
Torgersen Hårstad Fredrik
1809-89
Born 1809, christened Feb. 19. 1809, died July 8. or Sept 7. (Norwegin or English date?)
1829, deed (property) on 1 spand and 21 marklag (a value of a certain part of the farm) from Fredrik Torgersen to Torger Fredriksen for 500 Riksdaler.
1829 "Kårkontrakt" he set up a contract which secured him and his wife free room and board on the farm as long as they lived.
1863 Deed (Property) from Fredrik Torgersen to his son Torger Fredriksen of the farms Hårstad and Hårstadkroken, 1 spand 1 øre for 1000 Spesidaler.
1863 "kår" (see kårkontrakt abowe) from Torger Fredriksen to his parents
1871, Mai 12. A contract for Salomonfishing in the river Orkla lasting for 10 years between Torger Fredriksen, Parker and Simond (could be two well-to-do English Lords)
The weight, approximately, since the unit of a measurement could change from century to century.
I spand was 9 Kilogram/18 Pound and 1 mark (marklag) was half a pound, so 1 spand and 21 marklag was 28,5 pund , in most cases calculated in Butter or corresponding products. 28,5 pound of butter correspond to about 115 pound of Grain.
When it comes to taxes, 1 spand was estimated to 72 mark.
1 øre was the value of 27 gram of silver (1 pound is about 453 Gram)
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Kåarto
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Posted - 21/05/2008 : 21:08:02
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Hi,
Puuuh,
a lot of words which dont exist in our language today, hope is make sence to you.
Arnt Torgersen Hårstad, baught half of Solem.
Born 1815
Christened June 18. 1815
Died
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kithielynn
Junior member
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - 22/05/2008 : 00:52:39
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| Thank you so much for doing this for me. You are great. This makes more sense and is very interesting. |
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kithielynn
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 22/05/2008 : 02:08:59
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I missed one. This one is the only one I need that will complete who carried down the farm. Thanks for you help.
Fredrik Torgersen--------------------------
Bruker Nørigard Hårstad 1709-1741.
Född kr 1661, 40 år i 1701. [1]
Död 1755, 86 år gml. [1]
Fredrik utgav 20.september 1729 en panteobligasjon til hr.Hans Hamond på 100 Rdr mot pant i gården Hårstad, skyldende med bøksel 4-øre.
Denne blev innført og betalt den 12.oktober 1737.
Fredrik solgte Hårstad, som skylder med bøksel 1 spand 1 øre til sønnen Torger Fredriksen for 100 Rdr 10. juli 1741 |
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kithielynn
Junior member
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - 22/05/2008 : 02:19:29
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oops and this one: thanks
Torger Fredriksen--------------------------------
Bonde og eier av Kroen og Hårstad fra 1863.
Född 1841-01-28. [1]
Död 1905. [2]
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kithielynn
Junior member
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - 22/05/2008 : 02:30:07
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| Torger Fredriksen born 1841 is the last one that I find had the Haarstad farm. I see he only had two living daughters and the two sons died before the age of one. So does anyone know who took over the farm? I don't know where to go from here. |
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Solem Family
