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Lester Hanson
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USA
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Posted - 21/04/2008 :  02:26:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carra,

Here are several records for you to add to your tree.
1865 telling for Christian Christoffersen and Oline Olsd, and family: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=14&filnamn=f61718&gardpostnr=66&sokefelt=skjul

1900 telling for Kristoffer Kristiansen Lyshaug and family: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=f01718&gardpostnr=489&sokefelt=skjul

Christine, born 3 September 1856: #1 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16946&idx_id=16946&uid=ny&idx_side=-14

Ole-Petter, born 15 May 1860 #9 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16946&idx_id=16946&uid=ny&idx_side=-27

Elen-Marie,born 25 May 1863 #17 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16946&idx_id=16946&uid=ny&idx_side=-40
Elen-Mare, died 10 Mar 1865: 1865 #2 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16984&idx_id=16984&uid=ny&idx_side=-63

Christoffer, born 13 Dec 1869 #3 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16984&idx_id=16984&uid=ny&idx_side=-14

Carolina, born 14 Oct 1873, #28 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16984&idx_id=16984&uid=ny&idx_side=-20 and her twin Karen Martha #29. (Thanks Einar)

Les

Edited by - Lester Hanson on 21/04/2008 21:53:13
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carraj
Medium member

USA
107 Posts

Posted - 21/04/2008 :  19:29:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Lester!! What an amazine wealth of information! Thank you again for your kindness and generousity!

Carra Johnson
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 21/04/2008 :  19:54:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why not include Karen Martha #29
she was a twin sister to Carolina!

Einar
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carraj
Medium member

USA
107 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  07:26:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the marriage record of Zacharias Knudsen, the place of birth and residence of the bride and groom, I can only make out the first one, Stadsbygden. Would someone be so kind as to take a look at the other three and help please?
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2457&idx_id=2457&uid=ny&idx_side=-191

Any help with the witnesses too please?
John ______
Ole _______
Knasbakken ??

Thanks very much for the assistance!

Carra Johnson
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Borge
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Norway
1297 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  08:52:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The groom is born at Stadsbygden, residence at Skarsaunet
The bride is born at Gravaas, residence at Skarsaunet.

Witness:
John Hindrum
Ole Stephensen Knarbakken

Børge Solem
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carraj
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USA
107 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  11:01:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hei Borge, Thanks very much!!

Carra Johnson
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 16/05/2008 :  10:37:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you seen this?

The forefathers to this family was Casper Andersen Skaanøen 1726-93 and Ingeborg Hagtorsdatter Pallum 1726-1812.

Casper Andersen was christened June 2. 1726, left hand 19 and 20. line from top:
2. Juny.........døbt (bap.) Anders and Dordi (Ingeborg) Skaanøens søn (son) Casper

Ingeborg Hagtorsdatters christening record is on the former page, 45, left hand line 30 from top:
Døbt (Bap.) Hagtor and Elin Pallums Datter Ingeborg

Their son Knud christened Oct. 30. 1763 in Statsbygd, last christening in October.
33. Confirme: Casper and Ingeborg Skaanøens hjemmedøbte Søn Knuds Daab.
Casper and Ingeborg Skaanøen (he was christened at home) Son Knuds Bap. 33.

Knud Caspersen married July 26. 1812 in Rissa to Ingeborg Knudsdatter Pallum born 1783.

Gunnar Morten Gravås from Dis-Sør Trøndelag has made this information for Morten Gomo, gjest /visitor, he is a descendant from this family. click here

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 16/05/2008 14:26:52
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carraj
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USA
107 Posts

Posted - 17/05/2008 :  02:35:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kåre,

THANK YOU!! No, I hadn't gotten too deep into this part of the family yet ... this is wonderful and I am grateful for your kindness! I was so surprised to see the Gunnar Morten Gravås name ... I have just received from my cousin a large wall-chart that Gunnar did in 1975 of all this side of the family ... it is about 4' x 5' ... huge and all hand-written!! Gunnar gave the information to one of the Heggens in Canada and they gave it to my cousin at a Heggen family reunion in 1994 or so.

I wonder if there is a way to learn whether Gunnar is still around and doing geneology? I have a correction I could pass on to him that would be important to his work. Any ideas?

His research has Kristian as the father of a family that actually belongs to Kristoffer, who went to Montana. That is my cousins' grandfather and I knew him well also. I am still researching Kristian, although I do know that he married the stepdaughter (Oline) of his Uncle Kristoffer Rian/Rium/Reum.

This is an amazing gift you have sent, Kåre, and I thank you so much! I'll get out my Norwegian dictionary and work on it over the weekend!!



Carra Johnson
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carraj
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USA
107 Posts

Posted - 17/05/2008 :  06:59:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hei Kåre, I am learning much about the family thanks to your information! I am unable to find one word in any of the dictionary sources I have ... could you tell me what "Forkølelse" means? It is listed as the cause of death. Thank you!

Carra Johnson
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 17/05/2008 :  10:05:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
the link abowe was a lucky finding.
Its Norways National Day, Mai 17. today, been watching the childrens parade, always a great event.

I think both Gunnar Morten Gravås and Morten Gomo from Rissa could be possibe to find.

Førkølese (old spelling), Forkjølelse today, means having a cold.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 17/05/2008 14:39:24
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carraj
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USA
107 Posts

Posted - 17/05/2008 :  16:25:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kåre for the translation. Everyone here in America with Norwegian roots dreams of celebrating Syttende Mai in Norway someday! Until then, we celebrate here with our Norwegian groups all over the U.S. with our own parades and picnics and other get-togethers. Our small Syttende Mai picnic today near Washington, D.C. usually has 500-800 people. Many of the Syttende Mai celebrations in the west areas where most of the Norwegian immigrants settled have thousands of people attend each year. Have a great day and thanks again for all your help!

Carra Johnson
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 18/05/2008 :  11:52:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Syttende mai was very cold, the averarge temprature in Norway was the coldest in 50 years, but most people didn´t seems to care about that.

Here are some more from Rissa and the Skaanøen (øen means island) and Pallum farms.

Skaanøen 1801, Knud Caspersen age 37 "Land. sold." Soldier in the local militia, his mother, widow Ingeborg Haftorsdatter (her husband Casper died 1793) and Knuds sister Ellen age 32, Haftor Gunnersen age 19 work as a servant.

Pallum 1801: Ingeborg Knudsdatter age 18, her parents Knud Haftorsen age 71 and Sara Andersdatter age 57, two brothers Anders age 25, Knud age 20 and a sister, Berit age 29.
Christopher Haftorsen age 68 married to Marit age 62 (on top) is Knuds brother, two sons David and Christopher and a famale servant Marthe age 19.

Knud Caspersen and Ingeborg Knudsdatter married March July 26. 1812.
Bachelor Knud Caspersen Skaanøen and maid Ingeborg Knudsdatter Pallum. Best men were Peder Flyten and Knud Mælhuus, #13

Ingeborg Knudsdatter Pallum was born 1783 and christened in Rissa March 16.
Døbt Knud and Sara Pallums Datter Ingeborg.
Christened Knud (Haftorsen) and Sara (Andersdatter) Pallums Daughter Ingeborg, the next persons are the Godparents, left hand down #17

Wedding in Statsbygd/Rissa Mai 27. 1726, Ingeborg and Knud Haftorsens parents, Haftor/Hagtor Knudsen and Elen Christophersdatter, left hand down page, thick letters: Copul: Hagtor Knudsen og (and) Elen Christophersdatter

Haftor/Hagtor Knudsen was born to Knud Haftorsen Pallum, he died in 1762 at age 70 and was June 6., left hand line 13 and 14 from bottom: Knud Pallum 70 ar gml

Havtors mother was Maritte Jonsdatter Overskaug b.a. 1659, she died in 1730, age 71, and was buried Jan. 29. 1730 in Rissa: Maritte Pallum 71 aar, 2. column line 24 from top

Elen Christophersdatter was born on Flataunet in Rissa and christened March 15. 1704. Hard to read, left hand line 16 from top: Ellen ......Christopher Flataunet, modern Ingeborg (the mother Ingeborg)

Actually, Christopher Flataunet was Christopher Larsen Flataunet born about 1658, he died at age 91,5 in 1747 and was buried in i Mai as Christopher Larsen Flataunet 91 1/2 aar gml

Kåre



Edited by - Kåarto on 19/05/2008 12:33:17
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carraj
Medium member

USA
107 Posts

Posted - 18/05/2008 :  19:09:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My goodness Kåre, THANK YOU!! You're finding the very bedrock of that side of the family!! I'll spend the rest of day enjoying it and adding it! Thank you again so much!

Carra Johnson
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 18/05/2008 :  20:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are welcome,
I find this on Elen Christophersdatter Flataunet in English owned by Olav Henriksen in Norway, but no connection to her childrens families, but you do.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 18/05/2008 21:03:31
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carraj
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USA
107 Posts

Posted - 19/05/2008 :  00:54:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Haftor/Hagtor Knudsen was born to Knud Haftorsen Pallum, he died in 1762 at age 70 and was June 9., left hand line 13 and 14 from bottom: Knud Pallum 70 ar gml

Havtors mother was Maritte Jonsdatter Overskaug b.a. 1659, she died in 1730, age 71, and was buried Jan. 29. 1730 in Rissa: Maritte Pallum 71 aar, 2. column line 24 from top

Hi Kåre
In the information above I understood it to mean Knud Haftorsen Pallum died in 1762 at age 70 ... but that doesn't work with his wife Maritte Pallum's death information. It must be Haftor that dies June 9, 1762 at age 70, is that right?

Another question please ...
quote:
Wedding in Statsbygd/Rissa Mai 27. 1726, Ingeborg and Knud Haftorsens parents, Haftor/Hagtor Knudsen and Elen Christophersdatter, left hand down page, thick letters: Copul: Hagtor Knudsen og (and) Elen Christophersdatter
If Haftor Knudsen Pallum and Elen Christopher Pallum are the parents of both
Ingeborg Haftorsdtr Pallum and Knud Haftorsen Pallum II,
then Knud Caspersen Skaanøen and his wife Ingeborg Knudsdatter Pallum are FIRST COUSINS, is that right?

Carra Johnson
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