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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 04/06/2008 : 23:51:19
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Brithas parents, see my posting of 03/06/2008 : 20:56:27!
Ragnildes parents from her baptismal record, see #33
Anders Bjørnesen and Britha Torbiørnsdatter.
Ragnildes parents in 1801
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Edited by - eibache on 05/06/2008 07:50:33 |
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MADCOWGIRL
Junior member
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 00:36:56
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Thank you Kare
I am looking for information on Lars Sjursen & Ragnhild Anderstr.
I have the farm in 1865 on Lillevig
was just looking to go back further with parrish records or birth ,marriage records of Lars & Ragnhild
All of this information has been amazing - Thank you so very much |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 07:24:37
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Kåre, how do you know that the widow Barbro Nilsdatter "Føderaadskone" (39 years in 1865) was the former owner of the farm and had sold the farm to Simon Sjursen (66 years in 1865)?
Lars Sjursen was baptized July 30 1820, see #71his parents were Sjur Simonsen and Barbraa Nielsdatter Lillevig.
Lars Sjursen and Ragnilde Andersdatter were married July 3 1846, see #51
Lars father was Sjur Simonsen and Ragnildes father was Anders Biørnesen Mykletveit.
Siur Simonsen, Lars father was not married at the census in 1801
Lars grandparents were Simon Siursen and Brita Larsdatter. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 07:39:52
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Hei Einar,
I used the translation of "Føderradskone" in this Dictonary.
Support recieved after giving ones estate to another, the retierment agreement, also named as "kår" =kaar, a sort of pensioner, receiving support from the new owners of the farm by contract made on the sale.
Kåre
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 07:57:58
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| Were Lars father Sjur Simonsen and his parents who were at Lillevig in 1801 just users of the farm and Simon Sjursen had baught the farm then? I was puzzeled by a 39 year old widow having sold the farm to a 66 year old man! |
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 08:43:23
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I also find this strange, "Føderaadskone" at age 39.
It´s a wrongspelling in the 1865 census about her age, she was older and Lars and Sjurs mother?
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Edited by - Kåarto on 05/06/2008 08:53:51 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 09:56:18
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Here is the wedding record for Ragnild Andersdatters s parents:
Anders Bjørnsen Mocheltvedt and maid Brita Torbjørnsdatter Evanger were engaged on Fer 2 Pascha (Monay in Easter) and married June 19. 1997 in Evanger sub parish in Voss.
Here is the family on Møkeltvedt.
One daughter Ranvei age 1 and a fosterchild Ranvei Heljesdatter age 7.
the next family is living on a sub farme under Møkeltvedt
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 05/06/2008 10:00:06 |
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MADCOWGIRL
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 16:48:55
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Thank you all - without your help I would have never gotten so far in such a short time -
I spent yesterday on a site of Voss geneaologist - looking through parish records - I can read the names pretty good now - but usually I cannot read the comments or extra relatives because of the old style handwritting - It took a while on the Amercian census for me to be able to recognize the different handwritting - I am sure it will just take time with these too. Again Thank you for everything |
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MADCOWGIRL
Junior member
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 17:29:37
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I have a question is Ragnhild a nickname or something - I do not follow how Ragnhild becomes Ranvei - I do realize there are mistakes in the census writting - but it seems this mistake is pased down through gernerations.
Thanks again - really I would never had made so much progress without all of your help |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 18:17:05
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Hi,
both Ragnild (older spelling: Ragnil) and Ranvei (Ranveig) are old Norwegian names.
The spelling of a name could change from parish to parish or from priest to priest because of local pronunsations. The priest write down what he heard or what he ment was right.
He could never dream of we would be sitting working on a PC 150-200 years later wondering about that.
Take the most common name in Norway, mans name Ole: Ola, Olae,Olaij, Oluf, Oluff, Anlaf, Olav, Olaf, etc (nick name Laffen) and
Ragnhild: Ragnhil, Ragnheld, Ragnhilda, Ragnhilde, Ragnhill, Ragnhille, Ragnihl, Ragnilh, Ragnille etc.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 18:50:31
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Anders Bjørnsen Mykletveit was born 1772, left page, 3. bap.from top, 1. bap. after Wangen Annex.
Dom: 1. p. Ephipan (1. Sunday after "Hellige 3 konger" Three wise men), Jan 12. 1772, Biørne Brynjelsen and Ranvei Nilsdr. Møcheltveits Søn (Son) named Anders.
Mykletveit was spelled Mykkeltveit, Møcheltvuedt in 1630, Mycheltuedt, Møcheltvedt.
Mykel means a lot of/ much of and tveit means gras/soil/land (A lot of gras land)
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Edited by - Kåarto on 05/06/2008 18:56:15 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 19:56:03
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Britha Torbjørnsdatter was born on farm Evanger and christened in Wangen sub parish (todays Vossevangen) on Dom:9....9. Sunday after Trinit, August 16. 1778:
Left page 4. christening from bottom:
Torbjørn Johnsen and Brytha Bergesdatter Evangers Datter nom (Daughter named) Britha.
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MADCOWGIRL
Junior member
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 20:54:42
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Thank You again Kare
that clears up my question about the names
Steffani Anderson - Smith
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 23:14:28
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You are welcome.
Torbjørn Johnsen and Brytha Bergesdatter married in 1778 in Evanger sub parish, he was from Evanger and she was from Mykletveit.
Down left page, 1. wedding after the heading: af Evanger annex#1
Feria 2 Paschatos For Enkemand (widower) Torbiørn Joensen Evanger og Pigen (and maid) Brytha Bergesdatter Møcheltveit.
Feria 2 means Tuesday and Pascha means Easter (Paschatos?), April 14.
Lillevik 1900, Sjur S (Simonsen) Lillevik, the 32 years old bachelor from the 1865 census was now married to Marie Haldorsdatter, 5 children, Nils, Ranvei, Martha, Kristine and Simon born 1868 married to Inga Knudsdatter, one daughter Mari born 1899.
The other people are renters, but FL for Haldo and Lars could means "Flerføding" a relatvie.
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MADCOWGIRL
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 05/06/2008 : 23:38:22
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I wish there was some way to "capture" these images of the parrish books - I have the sources listed from the parrish, date,page etc. I still have relatives who will not go near a computer... they do not know what fun they are missing!
So Mykeltveit - is the farm where Brytha came from - is there any place to look up these farms to see if they still exist today?
I was in Norway when I was a young girl - maybe 35 or 40 years ago I would love to go back now with all of this information and take another look. |
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Britta (Bertha) Larsdt Lillevik and family
