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TLarson
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 Posted - 27/08/2008 : 22:50:56
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| I am trying to find some info the Pederson side of my family. I know that my great great grandmother came to America probably with here children. Her husband died in Norway. My great-great grandparents were: Peter Olson born: March 14, 1795 and died: April 01, 1884 and Gurina Ceselie Olson born: April 28, 1822 and died: October 27, 1908. Their children were: Karen Martha Pederson born: November 25, 1849, Bergette Pederson born: July 23, 1853, Nickolai Pederson born: March 19, 1863, Grethe Pederson. I know there was one more child (a girl I think). I would like to know when they came to America or anything else that can be found out about this family. Thanks! |
Edited by - TLarson on 28/08/2008 00:55:20 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 13:38:33
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What did the various US censuses (1900, 1910, 1920) tell you about WHEN these people immigrated to the US?
Did you find any information about WHERE in Norway they were from in records from the area(s) in the US where they settled? Obituaries? Church records where they were members? Histories of the US area(s) where they settled?
Doing your homework thoroughly in US records will always make your research easier in the long run. |
Edited by - Hopkins on 28/08/2008 14:13:39 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 14:04:07
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When you don't have any idea of WHERE in Norway persons were from but you have a strong possibility that should be there for the 1865 or 1900 Norwegian census AND you have good idea of names and birth years the census searches available at the Norwegian Historical Data Center. That website has instructions available for your use (notice the link from the homepage).
Advanced Search in NHDC
Using the name which seemed easiest to find, the birth date range very very close to the 1865 census and the wildcard functions of the database search - I found 12 possible "Nickolai Pederson" boys born about 1863 in Norway. Only one had family members with names that appear to nearly match your starting information.
Continue your research for the family in the records of Verdal district in Nord-Trøndelag (parish church records available for years as early as 1705 and published bygdebok that you can use - "Verdalsboka: en bygdebok om Verdal", 6 or more volumes by Einar Musum; Øystein Walberg.)
Nikolai Pedersen's family in the 1865 Norwegian census
Enjoy your research!!
PS - The closest and therefore most likely Norwegian port of departure would be Trondheim and you can use those emigration records on the Digitalarkivet website. |
Edited by - Hopkins on 28/08/2008 14:07:06 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 15:16:47
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The baptisimal record for Nicolai is #73
he was baptized May 24.
Peders record is #125
he was born April 16 and baptized July 22 1855. His death is recorded here as Nov 27 1859.
Grethes record is #27
she was born Dec 5 1858 and baptized March 13 1859. She emigrated to "Amerika" most likely in 1889.
Birgittes record is #31
she was baptized Oct 23 1853. She moved to Sweden in 1872.
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TLarson
Senior member
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 17:25:43
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| I know that Nicolai was married in 1898 to my great-great grandmother here in America so he would have had to come before that time. My great grandmother came to America in about 1893. This might help but is not relavent to the Pederson relatives. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 17:54:49
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Confusing! Nicolai was your g-g-grandfather he married your g-g-grandmother in 1898 (must have come to US before 1898) your g-grandmother came to US about 1893 - was she the daughter of Nicolai and ??.
If you share the names of g-g-grandparents it might have been easier. |
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TLarson
Senior member
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 18:33:02
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| My great-great-grandparents were Nick and Anne Pederson. Anne's name in Norway was Kolstad. Anne's parents were Jakob and Ingeborg. My great-great-grandmother came to the US in 1893 NOT my great-grandmother. Hope this helps! |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 20:28:18
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Peder Olsen was a widower when he married Guriana Cecilia Christiansdatter Nov 3 1848, see (if you can) #31
(It looks like he was married the first time Jan 28 1825 and became a widower June 27 1847.) He was 50 years at this wedding and Guriana was 25.
Peder was born 1798 and I believe his father was Ole Monsen.
Peder Olsen in 1801
Gurianas father Christian Eriksen, she was actual baptized Gurine Cecilia May 27 1822, see #14
her mother being Maria Pedersdatter. She was born April 28 at Østbaardvald in Levanger. |
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TLarson
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 21:23:39
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| The marriage record is very hard to read, but I can see the date June 27, 1848 there. But I can't decipher the rest of what is written there so I will believe what you said as correct. Is there any way to find out who his first wife was? My information said that Peder was born in 1895, but if the census said he was three in 1801 then I will believe that since it is from a census after all! Who would the other people be that are listed in the 1801 census? Would Peder's first wife have died in 1847? Do you think he had any children with this first wife? Would the Niels Olssen be a brother of Peder? |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 21:38:25
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The date for the marriage is quite clear Nov 3 1848! I think what you believe is June 28 actually is "gift 1 28/1 1825, the record is here
the first couple, his first wife was Sara Thomesdatter Ness 48 years old.
Peder is said to be born at Skjørdahl (Schiørdahl) and he was 28 years old - born 1798. (I have not found him yet)
Yes, Sara died June 27 1847, she was 67 years old, see #54
since she was 48 years whens she married I would not bother to look for any children!
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TLarson
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 22:00:41
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| Sorry! I see that you said the marriage date in a previous post, my mistake! June 27, 1847 was when Peder's first wife died, right? I guess they wouldn't have had any children! She was way to old! Has it been figured out yet when Nickolai Pederson and others would have come to America. Nick's sister Karen was married in America in 1885 so he most likely came to America around that time approximately. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/08/2008 : 15:24:02
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Nicolai Sørager was confirmed Oct 6 1878, see #39
In the 1875 census Nicolai was at Sørager farm as a shepherd boy, see here
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TLarson
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205 Posts |
Posted - 29/08/2008 : 16:02:15
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Peders record is #125
he was born April 16 and baptized July 22 1855. His death is recorded here as Nov 27 1859.
The above was already posted, but I am wondering if this Peder is a brother to Nicolai who died as a child. I didn't know this before, but as most families had a child who died this is very possible. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/08/2008 : 16:49:43
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Nicolais parents were Husmand Peder Olsen and hustru Gurina Christiansdatter, Høilovald,
Peter Olaus parents were Husmand Peder Olsen og Guriana Christiansdatter Høilovaldeie - obviously same parents and same birthplace - Nicolai and Peter were brothers. |
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TLarson
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Posted - 29/08/2008 : 23:44:54
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| Is there any record for Nicolai's sister Karen Martha Pederson born: November 25, 1849? As far as I know she was the oldest in the family and that would make sense since she was born only a year after her parents were married. |
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TLarson
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 07:06:38
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| I know that Nicolai had three sisters that really haven't been mentioned or found out about in this thread. Their names were Karen Martha Born November 25, 1849. Anna and I believe the other one was Marian. At some point Anna and Marian emigrated to America and Karen emigrated in 1870s or 1880s I believe any help would be greatly appreciated. All three of these would have been children of Guriana and Peder too. |
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