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Ingrid Yost
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 Posted - 14/10/2008 : 02:03:24
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Hello,
I am new to this and looking for direction. I am trying to find information on my father's family. I know from the 1900 census records that my grandmother Ingrid Kristiansen was born 1 Dec. 1897 in Vagen Parish. This was the first stumbling block because my grandmother claimed to be 2 years older than the record states. I presume this is the right record since the names of her parents and siblings matched the information I already knew.
My grandmother claimed to be 18 when my father was born 22 Oct 1914 and that her husband Olaf (Stavern/Slavern)?? was a merchant sailor who was killed Sept. 1914 when his ship was torpedoed by the Germans.
She said that they came to the US in 1918 but I can find no records to match this information. I did find an Ingrid Kristiansen who arrived NY on 29 May 1916 on the Kristianiafjord. The age at arrival seems to match but that passenger was listed as single and did not have a child with her.
She was married to Olaf Hansen here in the US possibly in the Jamestown NY area. Unknown on what year...he must have adopted my father since this is the surname my dad went by.
I have not been able to locate any records for my father given name Konrad Meier.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated. |
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Hopkins
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Hopkins
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 02:51:39
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There were two different steam ships named "Kristianiafjord".
The first took passsengers from Oslo (Kristiania), Kristiansand, Stavanger, Bergen to New York from 1912 to 1917. In June of 1917 that ship was wrecked and lost in a storm.
The second "Kristianiafjord" wasn't built until 1920.
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Ingrid Yost
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 03:27:48
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My great-grandparents were Johan Kristiansen and Nilsine. The one you directed me to is the record I also found. Bjarne grew up to become the CEO of Bulls Presypjanst (not sure of the spelling) in Stockholm. I am not sure of the reason but his last name was changed to Steinsvik (something to do with a divorce) he had 2 sons Botten and Helge. I don't know if he had any other children.
The 1910 census may be of more help because there is still a brother Harald, who was younger than Bjarne.
The emigration record I found was for the first Kristianiafjord in May 1916.
The other thing I am curious about are the 2 additional residents of the household Maren Joakimsen and Ingebrigt Sivertsen. I do not recognize those names but I also do not speak Norwegian so I cannot figure if they are relatives or not. |
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Hopkins
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eibache
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 06:59:53
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I don't know if your info about your grandmothers birth date came from a baptisimal record, anyway it is #15 (girls) - she was baptized Ingrid Kristine May 27 1899.
Her parents were John Severin Kristiansen and Nilsine Bertine Andersen, they were married when the first child Alfhild Margit was born Nov 5 1891, see #9
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Edited by - eibache on 14/10/2008 07:51:56 |
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Ingrid Yost
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 08:09:36
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Thank you for the information. I will make sure to use the full location information.
To the person who found the baptisimal record... if possible can you give me an internet link. If not could you please see if you can find any records of my father Konrad Meier born 22/10/1914, Vagan parish of Norland. Unfortunately I do not know a surname, as my father was adopted by his step-father after they emigrated to th US. |
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eibache
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 09:37:29
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Parish records can be found at Digitalarkivet
The 2 additional residents of the household Maren Joakimsen and Ingebrigt Sivertsen were supported by poor relief but not likely related to John (Johan) Kristiansen and his family. |
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Edited by - eibache on 14/10/2008 15:11:20 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 10:32:09
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Konrad was christened Sept. 9. 1914 in Vågan church, he was born out of wedloc to worker Ingolf Aalberg born 1896 and Constanse Margrethe Nilsen born 1887 #61
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Edited by - Kåarto on 14/10/2008 22:23:47 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 10:48:29
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Ingolf Aalberg on Svinøen in Vågan with parents and three brothers in 1900
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Edited by - Kåarto on 14/10/2008 22:24:16 |
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eibache
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 14:54:01
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Kåre,
Konrad Meier born 22/10/1914, was the son of Ingrid Kristiansen (actually Andersen) born 1 Dec. 1897 in Vagen Parish and born out of wedlock, the father being Olaf (Stavern/Slavern)?? - so how can Konrad (Ingolfson) born Aug 10 and christened Sept. 29. 1914 mother being Konstanse Margrethe Nilsen come into the picture??
In the official register by the way is noted that this Konrad was adopted by Ove Nikolaisen and his wife Julie Sjursen (Ove Nikolaisen was born in 1885) |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 15:02:58
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Ingrid, last evening I gave you a couple of links to good study material. I suggest you continue to read and use those but I must also pass along my standard advice for starting to use the online scanned Norwegian church records.
The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005.
The Digitalarkivet web site - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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Hopkins
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 15:05:17
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Ingrid, do you have other FIRM information that the son Konrad was born in Vågan? Could his mother have moved from there before the birth?
The 1900 Norwegian census shows one Olaf Stavern --
Skogn district in Nord-Trøndelag
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Edited by - Hopkins on 14/10/2008 15:14:14 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 16:07:40
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Sorry, I misunderstood Konrads birthday, I looks like he perhaps was born in another parish.
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eibache
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:02:05
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In case Olaf Stavern from the 1900-census, Skogn was Konrads father, his baptismal record is #17
his parents were Laurits Johannesen (1860) and Martha Oline Olausdatter (1856). The proof is Olafs confirmation record from sept 30 1900, see #3
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Edited by - eibache on 17/10/2008 16:17:57 |
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eibache
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 21:15:05
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Ingrid Kristiansen left Trondheim May 15 1915 heading for Tauton, Minn. see 169081
No Konrad listed though.
If he called himself Konrad Meier, it would probably be of interest to know that the teacher at the elementary school in Vågan in 1900 was Anton Meyer. |
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Edited by - eibache on 14/10/2008 21:21:33 |
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