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Alan King
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Australia
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 Posted - 15/10/2008 : 07:17:25
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Still looking for any information on Andreas Barth Thom Hansen coming to Australia. He was born in Notteroy on 21 December 1886, parents Hans Olaf Hansen & Ottilie Olafsen. Was found in the 1900 census with brother Jorg Henry Hansen at Lofterod & Skjerve Nedre. He married in 1913 in Melbourne Australia. Family story is that he was a seaman on a ship to South Africa then to Melbourne where he "left" the ship. Any help in tracing (Andreas) Barth would be appreciated.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/10/2008 : 22:35:55
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If he sailed as a member of a ship's crew he will not be listed in the emigration records which were gathered for passengers leaving from the various Norwegian ports.
It is rare to find any Norwegian records for seamen online.
Maritime inscription - registers of seamen
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Alan King
Medium member
Australia
89 Posts |
Posted - 16/10/2008 : 07:22:02
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| Thanks for the infomation. I had read Borge's report on seaman. As I said this was only the family story and I am still trying to trace if it is true or if he was registered on any emigration lists. |
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2008 : 12:46:24
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Hi Alan
Do you have his death certificate and would it happen to state how long he had resided in Australia? Was he naturalised or did he apply for citizenship/residency? If so ,this would give you some clue as to when he arrived. Electoral Rolls might also give some timeline clues. Have you tried any of these avenues?
Sheena.
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Originally posted by Alan King
Still looking for any information on Andreas Barth Thom Hansen coming to Australia. He was born in Notteroy on 21 December 1886, parents Hans Olaf Hansen & Ottilie Olafsen. Was found in the 1900 census with brother Jorg Henry Hansen at Lofterod & Skjerve Nedre. He married in 1913 in Melbourne Australia. Family story is that he was a seaman on a ship to South Africa then to Melbourne where he "left" the ship. Any help in tracing (Andreas) Barth would be appreciated.
Alan.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/10/2008 : 14:09:37
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Andreas was still in Nøtterøy April 6 1902, that was the day he was confirmed, see #2
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Alan King
Medium member
Australia
89 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2008 : 05:21:39
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Einar,
Thanks again for your information it is all helping.
Sheena,
Over the years we have tried to locate Andreas(may have called himself Barth at the time, later became known as Tom) in Victoria before he married 2nd January 1913, but no luck. He was naturalised 27 May 1914 in Melbourne (18102), do not think we got a copy cannot find on line. He and wife moved to Western Australia and did stay here til his death. No "time in Australia" on Death Certificate. We will just keep trying to fill in this gap.
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 20/10/2008 : 03:39:06
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Sorry that did not help. So you still have a window of 11 years from 1902 to 1913 to fill the gap on. We have a fabulous website in NZ called "Papers Past" which is a great resource for family history research, basically you can start by entering the persons name or surname and see what pops up - things like passenger arrivals, land grants, electoral roll applications, court cases etc. It has scanned copies of old newspapers and their articles from the National Library of NZ. Do you know if you have anything like in Oz that may possibly give you any leads to help with a timeline - National Library of Australia website? Sheena.
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Originally posted by Alan King
Einar,
Thanks again for your information it is all helping.
Sheena,
Over the years we have tried to locate Andreas(may have called himself Barth at the time, later became known as Tom) in Victoria before he married 2nd January 1913, but no luck. He was naturalised 27 May 1914 in Melbourne (18102), do not think we got a copy cannot find on line. He and wife moved to Western Australia and did stay here til his death. No "time in Australia" on Death Certificate. We will just keep trying to fill in this gap.
Thanks,
Alan, Western Australia.
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Alan King
Medium member
Australia
89 Posts |
Posted - 20/10/2008 : 07:23:35
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Sheena,
Put Papers past into Google just came up with NZ web sites. Will look further, Victoria do have arrivals from newspapers but still no luck. Will keep looking he must have arrived at some time??? |
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 20/10/2008 : 11:42:28
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There is a Papers Past Australia, but looks like alot of the material is from the 1800's. If you look up National Library of Australia they have a large website, you may have more idea where to look with regard to the geography of your relatives known movements within Australia. You can contact them via email. Websites are www.oldnewscopy.com and www.nla.com.au Good Luck. SB.
PS: Do you have any good Australian websites for comprehensive shipping records?
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Originally posted by Alan King
Sheena,
Put Papers past into Google just came up with NZ web sites. Will look further, Victoria do have arrivals from newspapers but still no luck. Will keep looking he must have arrived at some time???
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Graeme Duckett
Starting member
New Zealand
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Posted - 22/10/2008 : 20:18:06
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| Hi there,i have a bit of a mystery man here in new Zealand known as Christopher or Kristopher Hansen.He arrived in our area in the 1920s.I have searched many avenues but he is quite elusive.He was a showman by all accounts.The old house where he lived and shared with Didrick Wohlert ,was covered in pictures of showgirls and circus acts on the walls.Those alive who knew him or knew of him have very little information.He had several fox terrier dogs which performed tricks,and he gave performances at local schools in the 1920s-early 1930s.he was always well dressed in a boater straw hat,white shirt,bowtie and dress pants and shoes.He shifted from here in the mid 1930s to a place called Eltham about 60 miles from here,where im told he spent his retirement years till his death.Those who knew him said he never worked.I can persue him if you wish.There must be a burial record here.regards Graeme Duckett |
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Alan King
Medium member
Australia
89 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2008 : 07:47:51
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Hi Graeme,
Thanks for the offer but I do not believe the above has any connection to my wife's family.
Thanks,
Alan. |
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