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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 05/11/2009 :  18:59:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Kare, very, very interesting.

Talk to you soon!

Erik
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 05/11/2009 :  20:39:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Theodor was among the first crew members on Kong Harald, I hoped I could get some old photos of the crew, but it seems to be difficult.
We talk soon.

Kåre
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 14/11/2009 :  18:22:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kåre. Hello, I hope all is well with you!

I think I might have found a record of death for Torberg, the brother of Ingeborg Andersdatter Rambrout (who is my ancestor) Torber was born in 1837 in Støren (Horg acturally) so the age fits.

I don't see anything certain that would indicate which family he is from, do you?

Could you have a look at this Church Record. CAn you translate what is written?

#143 (Torberg Andersen)

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 14/11/2009 18:24:52
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/11/2009 :  20:49:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Erik,
I am fine thank you.

Torberg Andersen seems to be "not existing" in the 1865 census. This could explain why.

The date for when he was born fit well, age 26 in 1863: 1837.

This Torberg Andersen was "Ungkarl af Lekø" Bachelor from Lekø. Could be Leka, a former sub parish in Trondheim. Torberg died in "Sygehuset" the Hospital. Cause of death:
"Blodhoste" Coughing blood, could be Tuberculosis.

Lekø, ø stand for island, I have seen it written Lekø (Leka).

Kåre
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 25/11/2009 :  05:26:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Everybody;.

I need some help. I have looked and looked but have not been able to find the record of death for Sivert Andreas Rambrout, he might also have gone by Sivert Andreas Andersen and his father was Anders Torbergsen Rambrout and his mother was Siri Sivertsdatter

Sivert Andreas
born June 23, 1849, Christened August 17, 1849
Trondheim, Domkirken
Father: Anders Torbergsen
Mother: Siri Sivertsdatter

Sivert was baptized at domkirken in 1863 and he is in the 1865 Census in Trondheim under the name Rambrout. He is living with his parents. I have not been able to find him in the 1875 census. I have looked pretty hard in the Domkirken death records from 1865 on....but nothing.

Anybody able to find anything?

thank you.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/11/2009 :  10:11:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its hard to look for Sivert in the parish records in Trondheim Erik.
There is a possibility that has not been tried.
Siverts sister Gunhild b 1840 married Iver Andreas Hellesen, they had 3 children in Vollafaldet Street in 1875.

If their baptism was found, perhaps Sivert may have been one of the godparents?

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 27/11/2009 20:57:33
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Hopkins
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Posted - 27/11/2009 :  16:32:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Erik, you can also expand your search to other church congregations in Trondheim. Of note, you will find that the father, Anders 'Rambraut', is found in the burial records for Vår Frue Kirke in Trondheim rather than the Domkirke.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/11/2009 :  20:19:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
It is true Hopkins, some of the records seems to be interchangeable.

Baptism for the three Hellesen siblings gave no response. Some from the Dahl family and Anders Rambrout were sponsors.
- Gusta Amalie 1865 #45
- Johanne Alberte Sofie 1868 #36
- Johan Peder Thomas 1873 #73

Yet another opportunity.
I think maybe the 4. of the Hellesen siblings (not sure since I have not found her baptism) was Lava Marie Helene married Olsen born Hellesen, married to Lars Christian Olsen, a son Lars, living in Nedre Baklandet in 1900.

Probably without any singificance.
Smith Sivert Dahl was Johan Peders godfather in 1877.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 28/11/2009 14:41:53
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/11/2009 :  14:10:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Sivert wasn´t one of the godparents when Lava Marie Helene Iversdatter (Hellesen) was bap in 1877, see #92

Where there other than Gusta of the Hellesen siblings who emigrated?

Kåre
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/11/2009 :  18:04:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hi Kåre,

No, I believe Gusta was the only one to immigrate. Regarding Sivert, the letter you translated off-line....he signed his name Sivert Andreas Torbersen, didn't he?

I will also take Hopkins advice and search in other parish records. we don't think he immigrated but that could still be a possibility.

Thank you.
Erik.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/11/2009 :  20:15:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Erik,
yes he did.
I had forgotten that.

Sivert Andreas Torbersen.

Kåre.
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Erik Carsten
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USA
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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  02:51:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hi Kåre

I am looking at birth record #228. Is there anything in the baptismal records of note in the writing off to the far right column? Also, I think I note that a couple of the sponsors were Musiker? Do you read the same thing?


Lovise Marie Karoline Reese #228
Thank you.

Erik.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  08:22:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Erik,
you are right, two of the godparets were "Musikus" todays Musiker/Musician.
Place of living was Lille Vognmansgate (street) 10. The houses are demolished and this area is todays Vaterlandparken


The godparents were:
Misician Schønemann and wife, Musician F. Hahn, Hans Larsen, "Handelsreisende" Commercial traveler ?? and Marie Schønemann.

Last column:
Lovise Marie Karoline was baptized at home Sept. 19 by "Forstander?" Superintendent? Hans Larsen: Musikus Schønemann, Musikus Fritz Hahn and Marie Schønemann.

Kåre
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  16:53:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Thank you Kåre

Can you make out the cause of death for the child in #4? (Reese)

#4

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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  19:55:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hei,
the young son died of Skarlagensfeber;
Scarlet fever.

Kåre
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