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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  02:17:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok...thank you for this but is this the same Nils Nelsen Folkedahl as the the on that married a Synneva Folkedahl and had a daughter by the name of Bertha born March 24, 1834 in Norway?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  02:17:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a marriage record for Nils Nilsen and Ingeborg Fredriksdatter at Big Canoe. Nils is aged 32 and is a widower and Ingeborg is a not previously married woman aged 27 and both are listed as new comers to Big Canoe. Marriage 18 16 Nov 1865

Edited by - jkmarler on 28/01/2016 02:22:07
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JaneC
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  02:21:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Departing Bergen in May 1865
Niels Nielsen Folkedahl and Ingeborg Fredriksdatter Folkedahl
with daughters Ingeborg and Anne
Residence Hardanger
See 207, 208, 209, 210
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=1323&ps=20019

Edited by - JaneC on 28/01/2016 02:26:18
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  02:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had not seen this before!
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  02:26:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC

Departing Bergen in 1865
Nils and Ingeborg
with daughters Ingeborg and Anne
Residence Hardanger
See 207, 208, 209, 210
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=1323&ps=20019




based upon the marriage information these would not be the same people.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  02:42:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jkmarler

There is a marriage record for Nils Nilsen and Ingeborg Fredriksdatter at Big Canoe. Nils is aged 32 and is a widower and Ingeborg is a not previously married woman aged 27 and both are listed as new comers to Big Canoe. Marriage 18 16 Nov 1865



I see where Ingeborg has died in November of 1867 and is buried at Big Canoe Lutheran Church Cemetery....
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JaneC
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  03:11:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting. What is your source, Erik, where did you see that? Which Ingeborg?

Here is Brita born 05 October 1859 to Niels Nielsen and Synneva Fredriksdatter, Folkedal
from Ulvik/Granvin churchbook:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070523630329.jpg

Ulvik/Granvin is in the Hardanger area.

Edited by - JaneC on 28/01/2016 03:15:40
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  03:13:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by JaneC

Interesting. What is your source, where did you see that? Which Ingeborg?

Here is Brita born in 1859 to Niels Nielsen and Synneva Fredriksdatter, Folkedal
from Ulvik/Granvin churchbook:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070523630329.jpg





very interesting...I wonder if Synneva Fredriksdatter and Ingeborg Fredriksdatter are in fact sisters....
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  03:15:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by JaneC

Interesting. What is your source, where did you see that? Which Ingeborg?

Here is Brita born in 1859 to Niels Nielsen and Synneva Fredriksdatter, Folkedal
from Ulvik/Granvin churchbook:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070523630329.jpg




here is my source for Ingeborg's death and burial at Big Canoe Lutheran in Winneshiek County, see #1 on very top of left page.

Iows.http://interactive.ancestry.com/60722/41742_314972-00631/644522?backurl=http://person.ancestry.com/tree/83527456/person/42558326900/facts/citation/283704481476/edit/record

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/01/2016 03:16:20
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JaneC
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  03:19:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Erik. Your source is the church book at Big Canoe, archived at ELCA as found on Ancestry.com website. Let me know if I got that wrong. Since I can't access the link, should I guess it is Ingeborg Fredriksdatter Folkedahl who dies, not the child Ingeborg Nielsdatter Folkedahl?

Edited by - JaneC on 28/01/2016 03:20:52
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  03:24:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC

Interesting. What is your source, Erik, where did you see that? Which Ingeborg?

Here is Brita born 05 October 1859 to Niels Nielsen and Synneva Fredriksdatter, Folkedal
from Ulvik/Granvin churchbook:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070523630329.jpg

Ulvik/Granvin is in the Hardanger area.



Jane...this is good! Could this be Hordaland instead of Hardanger?
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  03:29:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by JaneC

Thanks Erik. Your source is the church book at Big Canoe, archived at ELCA as found on Ancestry.com website. Let me know if I got that wrong. Since I can't access the link, should I guess it is Ingeborg Fredriksdatter Folkedahl who dies, not the child Ingeborg Nielsdatter Folkedahl?



yes, I would say that it is the Ingeborg Fredriksdatter Folkedahl who is cited in this document as the age given is 26 years and so corresponds very closely to the age 27 she was given in the marriage records of november 1865.
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JaneC
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  03:30:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Anne born May 1862 in Ulvik/Granvin, Hordaland fylke (which is in the geographic region of Hardanger)
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070523630335.jpg

Her parents are Niels Nielsen Folkedal and Synneva Fredriksdatter.

Emerging hypothesis is that Synneva dies, Ingeborg gets pregnant, Niels and Ingeborg emigrate and get married. Needs checking out.


Here is an explanation of what is meant by "Hardanger" region. It is not a fylke. It is in Hordaland fylke. A number of parishes, villages lie within the Hardanger region in Hordaland fylke - including Ulvik and Granvin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardanger


Edited by - JaneC on 28/01/2016 03:37:24
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  03:34:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the marriage of Nils Nilsen Folkedal and Synneva Fredriksdatter #14:
Kildeinformasjon: Hordaland fylke, Ulvik, Ministerialbok nr. A 13 (1853-1863), Ekteviede 1859, side 166.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8315&idx_id=8315&uid=ny&idx_side=-149
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/01/2016 :  03:43:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here is the marriage of Nils Nilsen Folkedal and Synneva Fredriksdatter #14:
Kildeinformasjon: Hordaland fylke, Ulvik, Ministerialbok nr. A 13 (1853-1863), Ekteviede 1859, side 166.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8315&idx_id=8315&uid=ny&idx_side=-149




I did see the people you mentionned as immigrating in 1865

Departing Bergen in 1865
Nils and Ingeborg
with daughters Ingeborg and Anne
Residence Hardanger
See 207, 208, 209, 210
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=1323&ps=20019

I could not find this family grouping in the 1870 census...or any mention of daughters Ingeborg and Anne....
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