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Judith Simon
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New Zealand
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 Posted - 06/03/2009 : 04:26:22
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| My great-grandmother Julia Andersen emigrated to NZ in 1872 on the ship. Hovding, together with her two younger sisters Lovise ( aged 17) and Amalie (aged 16). They originally came from Eidskog but saiied from Kristiana. After arrival they went to Norsewood. Julia then married a Scot, Robert Robertson, and went to live in Ormond, near Gisborne. However i have no idea what happened to Lovise or Amalie. Does anyone recognise those names as possible family members? |
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 00:46:31
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Hello
You have not stated whether you have looked for a marriage record in NZ for the 2 sisters, Lovise & Amalie (check for spellings of Louise & Amelia as well). There is a CD available to view with NZ marriages for this period, not sure where you live, but I have viewed at Auckland Central City Library.
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Judith Simon
New on board
New Zealand
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 04:51:47
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| Many thanks for your reply Sheena. Yes, i have realised that the marriage register should be my next step. i live in Kapiti and am planning to get down to the local library in the next day or so. i know the NZ Marriages CD is there. Thanks for the advice to check on possible variations in the spelling of the names. |
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
Posted - 23/11/2009 : 04:23:40
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If I have this right, then, according to the emigration records, Amalie ANDERSEN was Magna Amalie ANDERSEN:
Parish Register: Oslo fylke, Gamle Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 3 (1865-1873)
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=595&idx_id=595&uid=ny&idx_side=-287
Page 288, Emigration no. 32, 1872.
"32. 5-72 Magna Amalie ANDERSEN 1856 Do [Australien]"
I cannot be sure this is the same person, but there is a marriage registered in 1874 for John KILKOLLY and Amelia ANDERSON.
Children
1874 Joseph
1882 Helen
1884 Frederick
1890 Walter
- dates suggest other children. |
Pip
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 25/11/2009 : 15:22:45
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Good finding, Pip! 
The two girls listed just above Magda (#30 & #31) are also on the 1872-Høvding:
#30, 5-72 (May 1872), Caroline Andrine Carlsen, b. 1848 link
#31, 5-72 (May 1872), Emma Sophie Hansen, b. 1852 link
#32. 5-72 (May 1872), Magna Amalie Andersen, b 1856 link
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
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Posted - 25/11/2009 : 21:59:34
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Thanks, Jan Peter. I had made that connection.
It's interesting that they are registered as emigrating to Australia. Maybe they didn't really know where they were going. |
Pip
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kilko1
New on board
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 05:43:13
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Hi, my Gt, Gt Grandmother was Amelia Anderson, from Norway and she married John Kilkolly in Turanganui (now Gisborne) on the 2 Jan 1874. The lived in the Norsewood, Dannevirke area where all my side of the family came from.The only info Ihave have been able to collect is that she arrived in NZ when she was 10yrs old with her sister (no name) I also have a photo of a male in uniform taken in Kristiana. Their children were Helen, Annie, Joseph (my Gt Gfather) John, Amelia Maria, Frederiick, Robert Roger, Roger, Walter & Constance. She died in Wangarei 28 Oct 1941. Her first husband John died in 1907 and she re married a John Foster. I have Amelia's Norwegian bible. I am facinated that I may have tracked down some of her family and to find out where she originated from in Norway. I am very interested to see if this is one of the people you are looking for.
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2010 : 11:11:09
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Hi, Bill.
I have your family in my database, but cannot tell you if your Amelia was the same person as Magna Amalie ANDERSEN. There is a 3 year difference in age, but many of the settlers weren't sure of their age, so the age difference may not mean much.
Having said that, I have several immigrants with similar names.
Do you have Amelia's Death Certificate (or Death Printout)? It may have information about where she was born. |
Pip
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 14:38:28
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Magna Amalia Andersen was confirmed Oct 1 1871 in Gamle Aker, see #121. She was born in Kristiania Oct 8 1856 and baptized Oct 16.
Her parents were servant Andreas Andersen, Grünerløkka and maiden Maren Helene Pedersen, Thorwald Meyers gade 41.
Magna Amalie was born out of wedlock, her baptismal record is #81.
Neither Julie nor Lovise show up in census 1865 for Eidskog or in Kristiania with birthplace Eidskog, no findings of records for baptisms or confirmations either. |
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kilko1
New on board
New Zealand
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Posted - 26/08/2010 : 03:49:09
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I have done some more digging on Amelia Anderson and it appears from the marriage certificate that it is Anderson not Andersen. In her death notice it states her Fathers name to be Christian Anderson, Labourer and Mother Christine nee Knudsen. I do not know if this helps to throw any further light on her and if she did arrive on the Hovding. If anyone has any other sugestions I would appreciate them.
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2010 : 06:31:46
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Hi, Bill.
Another question:
Does Amelia's Norwegian Bible have any names/dates in it that might help trace her? |
Pip
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Edited by - NearNorsewood on 26/08/2010 06:32:28 |
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kilko1
New on board
New Zealand
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Posted - 29/08/2010 : 07:02:45
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Hi Pip, a good question. I pulled the Bible out and found that the bible is in Swedish. I checked it on line and found that it was printed for the Swedish Bible society in 1872. I wonder if they were given these before they sail. So it is back to the drawing board. Is there any chance they spoke both Norwegian and Swedish back then? There was only one name written inside the bible and I have her in our family tree.We had always been told Amelia was Norwegian, even says so in her obitury. I guess this could be because they set sail from Constantine. I will need to go through the shipping lists to see if I can track Amelia or her parents.
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 23:13:56
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Regarding the original query:
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Originally posted by Judith Simon
My great-grandmother Julia Andersen emigrated to NZ in 1872 on the ship. Hovding, together with her two younger sisters Lovise ( aged 17) and Amalie (aged 16). They originally came from Eidskog but saiied from Kristiana. After arrival they went to Norsewood. Julia then married a Scot, Robert Robertson, and went to live in Ormond, near Gisborne. However i have no idea what happened to Lovise or Amalie. Does anyone recognise those names as possible family members?
I appear to have led Judith astray. (Sorry!)
I now doubt that Amalie was Magna Amalia ANDERSEN.
It seems more likely that this is the family (results from FamilySearch.org):
Anton Christiansen
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 16 Dec 1844
christening: 02 Feb 1845 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1844 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kistine Knudsen
Olava Christiansdatter
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 08 Feb 1846
christening: 01 Jun 1846 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1846 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kistine Knudsdr
Carl Christiansen
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 08 Apr 1847
christening: 12 Mar 1848 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1847 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kirstine Knudsdr
Julie Christiansdatter
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 22 Mar 1848
christening: 24 Apr 1848 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1848 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kirstine Knudsdr
(The Julie from the 1872 Høvding was 23 years old, so born c. 1849.)
Hans Christiansen
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 18 Apr 1849
christening: 12 Aug 1849 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1849 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kirstine Knudsdr
Peter Christiansen
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 22 Oct 1850
christening: 26 Dec 1850 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1850 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kirstine Knudsdr
Johan Christiansen
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 26 Jul 1852
christening: 19 Sep 1852 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1852 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kirstine Knudsdr
Lovise Christiansdatter
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 08 Jan 1854
christening: 21 May 1854 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1854 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kirstine Knudsdr
Lovise Christiansdatter
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 02 Aug 1855
christening: 02 Sep 1855 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1855 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kirstine Knudsdr
(The Lovise from the 1872 Høvding was 17 years old, so born c. 1855.)
Amalie Christiansdatter
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 10 Sep 1857
christening: 17 Jan 1858 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1857 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Kirstine Knudsdr
(The Amalie from the 1872 Høvding was 16 years old, so born c. 1856.)
Henriette Christiansdatter
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 07 Mar 1860
christening: 22 Apr 1860 GARNISON MENIGHET, OSLO, AKERSHUS, NORWAY
residence: 1860 Oslo, Akershus, Norway
parents: Christian Andersen, Christine Knudsdr
I'm pretty sure that Amalie is the Amelia ANDERSEN who married John KILKOLLY as she married John in Turanganui (now Gisborne) where Julie went to live and the above birth dates for Julie, Lovise and Amalie are consistent with their ages at emigration. |
Pip
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Edited by - NearNorsewood on 25/09/2012 01:11:21 |
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
Posted - 25/09/2012 : 00:35:49
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The above means it's unlikely they were from Eidskog. (Can anyone tell me if it's possible to check the original records?)
I haven't had any luck with finding the family in the 1865 census, either at Eidskog or Garnisonsmenigheten. |
Pip
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Edited by - NearNorsewood on 25/09/2012 01:03:24 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 25/09/2012 : 16:30:28
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Christan Andersen was from farm Krogstad in Elverum and Kristine Knudsdatter from farm Herstad in Løten.
Fathers; Farmer Anders Poulsen and Knud Pedersen.
Christian was soldier "Jeger" nr 83 in 3. company when they married in Garnisonsmenigheten, Oslo, Sept. 11. 1844, #38.
Garnisonsmenigheten means Garrison Congregation, the location of the church still owned by the military is Akershus Fortress, link.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 25/09/2012 22:57:34 |
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Lovise & Amalie Andersen - emigrated NZ 1872
