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jeff anderson
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 Posted - 07/05/2009 : 03:12:00
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Would like to find information on the Sunlokken farm around the Honefoss area. Was around the late 1700-early 1800's that this farm existed. It was near the river that runs through Honefoss. My 3Great Grandfather, Lars Olson Sunlokken, DOB 26Dec1784, lived there. He was born at Sund-Bratten, Nordehov Parish.He married Anne Gulbrandsdatter Trogstad, DOB June 1784, on 16 Nov 1811.
Have checked the 1801 telling but could not find anything on Sunlokken.
Thank you.
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jkmarler
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jeff anderson
Starting member
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Posted - 07/05/2009 : 04:56:10
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Thank you, Jackie. I appreciate the info. I'm sure this farm was swollowed up by Honefoss a long time ago, making it hard to find anything
out about it. I will try the link you sent. Thanks again.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/05/2009 : 07:38:50
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Daughter Olea married a man named "Ole Larsen Sundlokken (Tandbergeie).
this Ole Larsen is most likely baptized August 23 1812, see 6th entry on left page, parents being Lars Olsen Tandberg Eie and Anne Gulbrandsdatter. Is this your 3Great Grandparents?
The baptismal record for Lars Olsen states that he was baptized on the 2nd day of X-mas in Haug church and that the parents were Ole Findbraaten and Berit Torkildsdatter, see middle of left page
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 07/05/2009 07:43:11 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/05/2009 : 08:17:31
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I think Sundløkken was a sub farm in 1801 mentioned as "Husmand" Tenant farmer, last column, in the 1801 censuses.
Sund means Sound (a narrow water) and løkken means paddoc so you are right about Sundløkken was near to the river running through Hønefoss.
I have seen Findbraaten mentioned as Sundbraaten Einar, could be a wrong spelling in the church book.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 07/05/2009 08:20:48 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/05/2009 : 15:48:25
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Hi,
Here is the copy relating to Sundløkken in the 1950 Norwegian farms database. It is an underfarm of Tanberg in Norderhov:
34 Sundløkken 0 mark 12 øre T. Svensgaard
The 1865 census listing gives a few particulars about the stock and what was raised on the farm.
Volume III of Ringerikske slekter has only one mention of Finnbraaten. It is under farm Sæter (pages 358-360) and says, roughly, that an Anders Torkel Olsen Finnebraaten purchased Sæter about 1812 for 1,000 rd (riksdalar?) and held the farm until 1819 when he (Torkel) died. He left the farm part to his "myndige arvinger" three brothers named Anders, Jakob and Ole Finnbraaten. Anders Olsen kept the farm and added neighboring parcels to the farm.
The book Stein: a storgaard pa Ringerike reproduces on page 10 a handdrawn map of the area dating from either the 1700s or 1805 (my norsk is not good enough to distinguish). Three Tandberg places are shown so its likely that the territory covered by Sundløkken is included (but not labelled.)
Hilsen,
Jackie M. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 07/05/2009 16:27:10 |
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eibache
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Posted - 07/05/2009 : 19:40:23
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I have had good experience with this map
You will find both Øvre Tandberg, Nedre Tandberg and Tandberg at Ringerike. When you search with the farm name, click on Sted/Adresse on left side to choose between findings, click also on < number > to change between "pages". Finnbråten can also be found. |
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jeff anderson
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Posted - 16/05/2009 : 16:14:03
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A big Thank you to all for your help.
I have check all the links and gone through what we have in the Tree and this is definately our 3xGreat Grandparents. And now we have been able to go back one more generation (Finnbraaten/SundBraaten).
Apparently the family moved from farm to farm. Was this quite common?
Thanks to all.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/05/2009 : 20:07:43
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It wasn´t unusual espesially for leaseholders to move from farm to farm, can be hard to track if they changed name after the farms.
Finnebraaten was most likely named after the plant Finnskjegg, a non wished weed, hard to get rid of.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 16/05/2009 20:14:44 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/05/2009 : 02:48:00
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Hi,
Also from Ringerikske Slekter III by A. Lagesen there are some further generations back of Lars Pederson Ekornrud.
On page 88 under farm Ekornrud, it says that Lars' parents were Peder Knudson Braaten and Kristi Engebretsdatter Ekornrud. Peder was born about 1728 and died in 1811 and Kirsti was born about 1738 and died in 1811. Apparently at the time of the marriage Peder was listed as a Sgt (sergeant.) Her marriage to Peder was her second marriage. Her first marriage was to Asle Olsen who died 1759.
Kirsti's parents are not listed in the paragraph but it seems likely that her father could be the Engebret Larsen Ekornrud mentioned as the farm owner in the text. Engebret Ekornrud died in 1773 at the age of 80 years.
Under Braaten on page 48, Peder Knudsen's parents are listed as Knut Pederson Braaten and Ingeborg Amundsdatter.
Hope this helps...
Jackie M. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/05/2009 : 06:13:43
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Volume III Ringerikske Slekter has only one entry with anyone carrying the name Sundlokken. It is found under the farm Ekornrud amongst the marriages listed for daughters of Lars Pederson Ekornrud ( d.1837). Daughter Olea married a man named "Ole Larsen Sundlokken (Tandbergeie)."
the marriage record is #16 Olias age (67 years) in the 1865 census is most likely wrong if its right that she was 24 years when they married.
Both ages could be wrong as an Olea was baptized Sept 29 1809, see 7th record from top on left page. Her father was Lars Pedersen Ecornrud.
Oleas parents Lars Pedersen and Kjerstina Andersdatter as well as her siblings in 1801
Lars Pedersen, Ekornrud and Kjerstina (Christina) Andersdatter, Follum married Sept 3 1796, see left page
Lars Pedersen was baptized May 1 1768, see right page parents being Peder Echornrud and Kirsti Engebretsdatter.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 18/05/2009 20:34:01 |
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eibache
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Posted - 18/05/2009 : 07:15:46
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Oleas grandparents, Peder Knutsen and Kjersti Engbretsdatter in 1801
Peder Knutsen was baptized Jan 25 1728, see Dom Septuagesimæ his parents were Knud Pedersen Braaten and Ingeborg Amundsdatter.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 18/05/2009 08:12:41 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/05/2009 : 16:22:33
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Hi,
One other fact about Engebret Ekornrud mentioned in the book is that he got the farm in the fall of 1728 after the death in 1728 of the owner Lars Halvorsen. And it appears that Engebret may have married the widow ("...som ektet enken efter den forrige opsitter Ingeborg Johannesdatter.") It also says about Engebret that he came from Aadal.
Hilsen,
Jackie M. |
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jeff anderson
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Posted - 19/05/2009 : 05:09:11
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Hi
You guys are great. You've taken me alot further than I had expected. Really appreciate all the good stuff I get to dig through.
Going back to Lars Olsen Tandbergeie and Anne Gulbrandsdatter Trogstad. Would it be correct to say Lars Olsen was born at
Sundbratten or Finnbratten. Apparently, he went from Sundbratten or Finnbratten, to the Tandbergeie farm and then to Sundlokken??
Do you have information on the Trogstad farm?? Looking at http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=216&filnamn=f18010613&gardpostnr=13#nedre, I found a Anne Gulbrandsdatter, parents are Gulbrand Pedersen and Barbo Olsdatter.
Would this be the same Anne that married Lars Olsen Tandbergeie?? |
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eibache
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Posted - 19/05/2009 : 08:19:37
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I found a Anne Gulbrandsdatter, parents are Gulbrand Pedersen and Barbo Olsdatter.
Would this be the same Anne that married Lars Olsen Tandbergeie??
- could very well be, but should be confirmed by marriage record or other means. The Anne being 11 years was most likely baptized Sept 27 1789, see right page her parents were then not living at Trøgstadeiet, but at Bache and the mother was not Barbro Olsdatter but Barbro Knudsdatter. The census record is most likely wrong, see bapt record for Annes brother Thor on the left side and the fact that he was born when the parents were at Trøgstadeiet.
Gulbrand Pedersen Tandberg and Barbro Knudsdatter were married Dec 29 1788, see right page
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Edited by - eibache on 19/05/2009 12:51:46 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/05/2009 : 10:37:28
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Hi,
The only family mentioned in Ringerikske Slekter III of those found in the 1801 folks on Trøgstad is the top of the ticket Ole Jølsen and his family. Most bygdeboker deal with the owners of places and their families rather than all residents / employees or cotters.
Checking the "faddernes" in the baptismal records for the children born to Lars and Anne would be a good idea as often aunts and uncles and other relatives are named in addition to the occasional well-to-do person. It is a good source for circumstantial evidence of relationship.
Good Luck.
Jackie M. |
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