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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 05/06/2009 :  18:11:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm trying to find the birth record for Ingeborg Ansteensdtr. From the marriage record and death record I believe she was born 1801-1802. I'm guessing her father was Ansteen Terkelsen.
The marriage record and the records of her children's birth are from Treungen in Nissedal, Telemark.

My stumbling block is that the Nissedal records seem to start 1814. Any suggestions?

The records I have for her include:
Marriage Record #2 Mar 5, 1821
Birth of child Mari March 16, 1822 Record #5
Birth of child Halvor Apr 3, 1821 Record #10
Birth of child Halvor Juni 4 1823 Record #5
Birth of child Kirsten Aug 28, 1824 Record #8
Birth of child Tarjie Aug 16, 1827 Record #11
Birth of child Ansteen Sept 14, 1829 Record #12
Birth of child Mari June 22, 1833 Record #9
Birth of Child Gunhild Dec 10, 1835 Record #2
Birth of child Marget Nov 27, 1838 Record #1
Move from Telemark to Dypvåg in 1839 Record #3
Death Ingeborg June 18, 1847 Record #20

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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/06/2009 :  19:05:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why do you guess her father was Ansteen Terkelsen?

In Kviteseid, Telemark, Ansteen Hansen & Mari Joensdr had a girl named Ingeborg, christened 21 Mar 1802.

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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 05/06/2009 :  19:41:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This post is related to 1801 Census - what two expression mean

I had been given a tree done by someone in the 1960s. It list my 3 great grandmother as Mari Torgerson and her parents as John Torgerson and Ingeborg Terkelson.

That person didn't seem to get the paternal naming scheme. So I'm guessing that the Terkelson was the family name of Ingeborg's father.

We have Mari's records including when they left Norway, the birth of the two children born in Norway, and her marriage which all have the Johnsdatter. We might have records for Mari's birth, move from Nissedal and later move to Søndelel. Her sons born in the US called her Mary Torgerson. My 2nd great grandmother was one of the girls born in Norway and her death certificate saied her mothers maiden name was Johnson.

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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  01:52:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't been able to reach the person who's grandfather did the tree. He died in 1966. My best explanation is that he saw the witnesses list from the wedding and took one as father.

I can't add a hypelink now. At the beginning of this topic, I have "Death Ingeborg June 18, 1847 Record #20". Could someone help me understand the word in front of her name?

I know her husband and 5 youngest children moved into Risør in 1850.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  04:50:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Here is what the LDS Family History Locality Catalog says about Nissedal:

[font=Georgia]Contains priest and sexton records from the parishes Nissedal and Treungen. Were separated from Kviteseid clerical district in 1810. See Kviteseid for earlier records[/font=Georgia]

Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  07:32:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, she died on Eidboe

Looks like as "Inderstekone".
Inderste means her husband was related o the owner of Eidsboe, he was "inderste", living on Eiboe as a lodger, she was his wife "Inderstekone" Lodgers wife.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 19/06/2009 07:34:13
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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  07:39:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks! I was looking for words starting with F.

Mary <><
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Kåarto
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  08:08:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Marrige "#5 is another couple, married on Nov.18, the groom was Jorgen Torstensen.

Here is your Jon Torgjesen Storedal and Ingeborg Anstensdatter on March 5. 1821, couple #32

Kåre
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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  08:22:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks again!

Possibly my lengthy text on the hyperlink was misleading. It was record #2 with March 5 date.
record #2 was on the left hand page last entry.

My record was from the official copy of the registry and your was the parish copy.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  08:49:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They married in Treungen at lake Nisser in Nissedal parish

She was most likley from farm Næss in Nissedal sub parish, Kvitesid parish born to Ansteen Hansen, christened on March 21. 1802.
Right page 4. from bottom (left margin; pige, dreng, pige, pige/girl).Further down after the godparents is her mother:
Moderen Mari Joensdatter

pige Døbt (Baptised) Ansteen Hansen Næss Datter (Daughter) Ingeborg, here

Her parents on Næss 1801 with three sons and three servants "Tieneste folk".
Her father Ansteen Joensen was Farmer, Lodger and Sheriff.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 19/06/2009 09:19:32
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Kåarto
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  12:34:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ingeborg Anstensdatter abowe was at home 1818 when her conformation was taken place. She is recorded as Ingeborg Næss #17

Næss/Ness means cape/headland, here is the farm at lake Nisser.

Perhaps the owner has the answer?

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 19/06/2009 12:40:48
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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  17:36:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool.

This leads towards a generic question I have. Is there a source for name spelling of villages to know when Wang switched to Vang, Hedemarken to Hedmark, Næss went to Ness? Also if Sinderue Eie, Sinnerud, and Sønderut-Eie are the same?

Mary <><
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Kåarto
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  18:14:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both variations are used as family names today, the 1900 censuses likely changed to the"modern" Ness/Nes for Næs/Næs.
Likely both Sinnerud and Sinderud are used today. Sinderud-eie was a sub farm, could have it´s own unknown name today.

As for Sønderut-Eie, Sønderut means Southern/Southern direction, I am not sure, but to my knowledge it´s not the same farm.
I think Sinnerud (Sindarud) is coming from mans name Sindre, rud means to clear the land, Sindre cleared the land as the first settler.

Kåre.

Edited by - Kåarto on 19/06/2009 18:17:01
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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 19/06/2009 :  18:36:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My 2nd great grandfather was in Sinderud Eie in the 1865 census, in 1868 we have a Utfytta from Sønderud-Eie, Stange, a son's confirmation in 1880 in Sinderud Eie. a son was born in 1884 in Sinderud Eie. His obituary has Sinderud.

Thanks for helping get a grasp on all this!

Mary <><
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