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Linda Tollefson Therkelse
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 Posted - 16/05/2010 : 20:19:02
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Yes, it was only possible to find that one because of other family members. I don't know that his name changed, maybe the census taker has completely misunderstood -- you can see how bad is the spelling sometimes! That one child is Carrie, rather than Carril. I say only perhaps Mary's mother is Kari -- I try to be careful, we cannot see all their children who have been born and died. We can completely miss children between census. We can see it even in the bygdebok -- Halvor Olson and Mari Eriksdatter should have first son Ole, but he is not listed there. I think first Ole must have been born before 1815 (Halstein), but died before 1817 (Ole - probably 2nd or 3rd), and there is maybe an earlier Erik, too. Some things will be much more clear when there are church records.
That name Ally appears in 2 censuses, but I am not sure what that is. Maybe an odd form of Halstein - nickname for Alston?? Last child listed in 1870 must be Ole.
It is, as you say, sometimes much more clear after they are found.
That town Moscow, it is down in the far southeast corner of Iowa County. The nearest Norwegian Lutheran church for the time is not in the same county, it looks like York Norske in Barneville. (York is a very odd name for a Norwegian church!)
I will try to help with the Emilie, as you know, so many are related to each other, and then they are in the same communities. One of great-great-grandmother Bergit's sisters was on the Emilie in 1841, and I know some others, too. I have some contact with a few descendants of Bergit's sisters. However, I do not have a shortage of projects, and I am not retired.
I was looking for an index for something on Numedalslågen site and happened upon this great link for Johan Aasen. Somebody has done a wonderful job with this, there is even a film clip.
http://johanaasen.com/index.html |
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Cindy Acton
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Posted - 16/05/2010 : 21:31:57
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I've been following with great interest the discussion about Halstein Halverson, his letter back to Norway and his family. I had done research on the family 10-20 years ago but not much lately. All these questions have gotten me interested again.
Halstein is the older brother of my g-g-grandfather Erick Halverson. I looked at what I have copies of and found the obituary of Erick Halverson in the Dodgeville Chronicle, Aug. 24, 1900.
Death of Erick Halverson
Died, at his home, in this city, Aug. 23, 1900, of paralysis, Erick Halverson, aged 76 years, 7 months and 17 days. Mr. Halverson was born in Vegle, Numedahl, Norway, and came to America and to Iowa County, reaching Dodgeville Sept. 11, 1841. The next spring eh went to New Diggings, Lafayette county, where he remained a year. In 1842 his parents, Halvor and Mary, came from Norway. In 1845 they filed a claim on 160 acres of land in the town of Dodgeville, and on this farm Mr. Halverson lived and took care of his parents until they died. He married Ingeborg Larsdatter, Sept. 5, 1851, she having come from Norway in 1849.
He was a member of the Evangelical Lutheran church, and a trustee of the church for many years. The surviving members of the family are his wife, 4 sons and 5 daughters, viz: Louis Halverson, of Revillo, S.Dak.; O.C. Halverson, of Glencoe, Minn.; Henry Halverson, of Dodgeville, and E. Chas. Halverson, of Linden; Mrs. Vina, wife of Willard Dillman, of Revillo, S. Dak.; Mrs. Mary, wife of Fred Pengelly, of Chicago; Mrs. Chrissie, wife of W.H. Sloggett, of Soudan, Minn.; Mrs. Annie, wife of O.T. Thompson, of Aberdeen, S. Dak., and Miss Libbie Halverson , who lives at home in this city. He also leaves one sister, Mrs. Leiv Olson, of Bennington, Kansas. He removed from the old farm in the town of Dodgeville, to the city, in 1883, and bought his present residence of the corner of Main and Division streets. (There is a bit more after that.)
I have copies of Erik's naturalization record from 12 Dec 1846 & Ole and Halstein Halvorsen gave oaths for him.
I never found the death dates for Erick's parents or any of his siblings although I see from this website that his sister died in 1905.
Ole Halverson later lived in Minnesota, first in Preston Lake and later Hector, Renville county, Minnesota. I last found him listed in the 1895 Minnesota census in Hector. He had died by 1900.
The last record of Halstein I found was the 1860 census so it's exciting to see he may have moved to Moscow, WI.
As for the last brother, Tollef, I have never heard or found anything about him or where he went.
Halvor Oleson was listed in the 1850 census with his wife Mary and also the 1855 Wisconsin state census. I saw a land record of a purchase with Erik Halverson and Halvor Olson together in 1854. Also, Erick purchased 2 pieces of land from his brother Halsten, one in Aug. 1851 and one in Jan. 1854.
I am going to see if I can find any more on Ole Halverson in Renville county. Maybe the Minn. Historical society will have some information or I can visit Renville county.
I've enjoyed the discussions on this website - about the Norwegian naming practice, mining, the Bark Emilie and the letter in Norway. I have many dates and names but not much on the history and culture of that period. Thank you.
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Linda Tollefson Therkelse
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Posted - 16/05/2010 : 21:44:37
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Cindy, I am glad to hear from you where Ole went -- Ole's can be very tough! However, as long as he stayed in Minnesota, I should be able to find him -- I live across the river from the Minnesota Historical Society.
I have thought that for now, I would put death dates of parents Halvor Olson and Mari Eriksdatter as between 1850-1860, unless they show up in Wisconsin state census. (In 1850 living with single son Erick.)
I am also thinking some of this would be solved if the church records are good, it will really help straighten some of this out. Right now, I suspect Tollef had died fairly early. |
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Linda Tollefson Therkelse
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Posted - 16/05/2010 : 21:52:42
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| I might have turned up a marriage in index, for Halstein: I found 12 Jan. 1850 Iowa County, H. Holverson and Mary Arsloch. Maybe Aslaksdatter? I also see what must be Liv: Lei Holverson to Gilbert Olson 2 Oct. 1844 Iowa County. (Index only, no further information.) |
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Linda Tollefson Therkelse
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Posted - 16/05/2010 : 22:44:22
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I am still working back, but this is what I find so far:
1875 Minn. State Census: Preston Lake, Renville County
Ole Halverson 57, b. Norway, Mary, 45, Norway, Allie, 17, b. Wis., Ole, 7, b. Wis. (relationships & occupations not listed in state census)
1880 Federal (this is very interesting when put together with last finding of Halstein in 1860)
Ole Halverson, 63, farmer, b. Norway, Mary, 52 wife, b. Norway; Ole 12, son, b. Wis.; Ole, 22, nephew, laborer, b. Wis., Christie, niece, teacher,
b. Wis., Nels Norquist, son-in-law, tailor, b. Norway (his parents b. Sweden and Norway)
>That Ole who is the nephew -- he is the right age and name to be Ole son of Halstein. We would guess Christie is his sister.<
1885 Minn. State Census Hector, Renville County
Ole, 68, b. Norway, with Ever and Maren O. Osness family
(This needs some more looking.)
1895 Minn. State Census Hector, Renville County
O.C. Halverson, 37, b. Wis. - it is noted he is the postmaster
E.L. 27, B. Minn.
Ole, 74, b. Norway
Q??. W. 8, b. Minn. - looks like a male but very messy
H. M.,, 6, female
A.V. 1, female |
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Cindy Acton
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Posted - 16/05/2010 : 23:24:16
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The niece and nephew - Ole and Christie - in the 1880 census with Ole Halverson are Erick's children. Christie became Mrs. William Sloggett. Ole is the O.C. Halverson in Glencoe, MN.
The O.C. Halverson in the 1895 census is the same nephew - Ole C. and his wife Ellen L. and their children: Ephriam Wynne, Helen Marie, & Albin Valincourt (a boy).
There are entirely too many Ole Halverson's to keep track of.
So far, I haven't found any records for Halstein's children or Ole's. I thought I found one of them in Bennington, Kansas but need to check the dates further.
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Linda Tollefson Therkelse
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Posted - 17/05/2010 : 00:33:11
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It is really awful keeping track of Oles in Minnesota. One day, somebody came to the Norwegian-American Genealogical Association meeting and told us he is looking for Ole Olson who came to Minnesota, but he didn't know from what part of Norway!
I think it will really help straighten some of it out if we can get some church records. Then we get look through some of the census with a new eye. So -- I think we will have to be a little patient and wait for them.
The Minnesota Historical Society has actually purchased the Norwegian Lutheran church records on microfilm for Minnesota because some very nice person gave them a very generous grant for that. But I don't know if they are available yet, I will have to check.
There is a problem coming -- Minn. Hist. Soc. is going to close the microfilm room for 6 weeks starting May 29 to put in new carpet. So we need to get obituaries from microfilm before if possible, or otherwise be more patient again.
It is too bad that older Ole did not make it to 1908 -- that is when our death certificates begin. There are a few records before.
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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 17/05/2010 : 05:36:40
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1. Tollev HALVERSEN, son of Halvor OLSEN Brekke and Mari ERICKSDATTER, was
born on Nov 30, 1828. Another name for Tollev was Thomas.
* He immigrated on Aug 17, 1842 to New York, New York. New York Passenger
Lists, 1820-1957 about Tollef Halversen
Name: Tollef Halversen
Arrival Date: 17 Aug 1842
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Age: 14
Port of Departure: Drammen, Norway
Ship Name: Emilie
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 42
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_50
List Number: 711
* 1880 United States Federal Census about Tollev Halverson
Home in 1880: Military, Winneshiek, Iowa
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Birthplace: Nor
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Father's birthplace: Nor
Mother's birthplace: Nor
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Divorced
Name Age
Tollev Halverson 49
Gunla F. Ballan 40
* Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 about Tolif Halverson
Name: Tolif Halverson
Birth Year: abt 1830
Birth Place: Norway
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Census Date: 1885
Residence State: Iowa
Residence County: Winneshiek
Locality: Military
Name Age
Tolif Halverson 55
Anna Halverson 31
* Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 about Tollef Halverson
Birth Year: abt 1830
Birth Place: Norway
Census Date: 1895
Residence State: Iowa
Residence County: Winneshiek
Locality: Military
Name Age
Tollef Halverson 65
Anne Halverson 31
Willard Henry Halverson 9
Alfred Christofer Halverson 7
* 1900 United States Federal Census about Tollev Halvorson
Home in 1900: Des Moines, Polk, Iowa
Birth Date: Apr 1829
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1847
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Spouse's name: Anna E
Marriage Year: 1884
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 16
Residence : Des Moines City, Polk, Iowa
Name Age
Tollev Halvorson 71
Anna E Halvorson 47
Willard H Halvorson 15
Tollev married Anna ESTREM. Anna was born in Apr 1853 in Iowa.
* 1870 United States Federal Census about Anna C Eastrem
Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Iowa
Home in 1870: Frankville, Winneshiek, Iowa
Post Office: Decorah
Name Age
C A Eastrem 50
Inger C Eastrem 49
Anna C Eastrem 17
Andrew C Eastrem 15
Gilbert E Eastrem 13
John C Eastrem 9
George C Eastrem 7
* 1880 United States Federal Census about Anne Estrem
Home in 1880: Wanamingo, Goodhue, Minnesota
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Iowa
Father's birthplace: Norway
Mother's birthplace: Norway
Occupation: Teacher
Marital Status: Single
Name Age
Christopher Christlock 39
Margareth Christlock 43
Jane Christlock 8
Carl H. Christlock 4
Anne Estrem 27
* 1900 United States Federal Census about Anna E Halvorson
Home in 1900: Des Moines, Polk, Iowa
Birth Date: Apr 1853
Birthplace: Iowa
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 1
Mother: How many children: 2
Spouse's name: Tollev
Marriage Year: 1884
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 16
Residence : Des Moines City, Polk, Iowa
Name Age
Tollev Halvorson 71
Anna E Halvorson 47
Willard H Halvorson 15
The child from this marriage was:
+ 2 M i. Willard Henry HALVERSEN was born on Feb 08, 1885.
Second Generation (Children)
2. Willard Henry HALVERSEN was born on Feb 08, 1885.
* World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Willard Henry
Halverson
Name: Willard Henry Halverson
County: Polk
State: Iowa
Birth Date: 8 Feb 1885
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1643346
DraftBoard: 0
Age:33
Occupation: attorney
Nearest Relative: Mary Ethel Halvorson
Height/Build:medium/medium
Color of Eyes/Hair: blue /brown
* 1920 United States Federal Census about Willard H Halverson
Home in 1920: Des Moines Ward 3, Polk, Iowa
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Iowa
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Mary E
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Iowa
Marital Status: Married
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Name Age
Willard H Halverson 34
Mary E Halverson 33
Willard Halverson 6
* Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 about Williard Halverson
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birth Place: Iowa
Marital Status: Married
Census Date: 1925
Residence State: Iowa
Residence County: Polk
Locality: Des Moines
Mother: Anna Estrem
Mother's Birthplace: Iowa
Father: Thomas
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Marriage Place: Ossian IA
Name Age
Williard Halverson 39
* 1930 United States Federal Census about Willard H Halverson
Home in 1930: Des Moines, Polk, Iowa
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head of House: Husband
Spouse's name: Ethel
Occupation:Lawyer
Military service: no
Rent/home value:rent
Age at first marriage:34
Parents' birthplace: Norway / Minnesota
Name Age
Ethel Halverson 39
Willard H Halverson 45
Willard F Halverson 16
Willard married Ethel SCHOUNEMAN. Ethel was born about 1889.
* Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 about Ethel Halverson
Birth Year: abt 1889
Birth Place: Iowa
Marital Status: Widowed
Census Date: 1 Jan 1925
Residence State: Iowa
Residence County: Polk
Locality: Des Moines Ward 1
Relation to Head: Head
Mother: Ida M Fredrick
Mother's Birth Year: abt 1862
Mother's Birthplace: Iowa
Father: John C Schouneman
Father's Birthplace: Denmark
Marriage Place: Des Moines, Iowa
Name Age
Ethel Halverson 36
Willard Halverson 11
The child from this marriage was:
+ 3 M i. Willard Fredric HALVERSEN was born on Mar 28, 1913 and died on Aug 11, 2009 in Dallas, Dallas, Texas.
* Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 about Willard Halverson
Birth Year: abt 1914
Birth Place: Iowa
Marital Status: Single
Census Date: 1 Jan 1925
Residence State: Iowa
Residence County: Polk
Locality: Des Moines Ward 1
Relation to Head: Son
Mother: Ehel Schanneman
Mother's Birth Year: abt 1889
Mother's Birthplace: Iowa
Father: Willard Halverson
Father's Birthplace: Iowa
Marriage Place: Des Moines, Iowa
Name Age
Ethel Halverson 36
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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 17/05/2010 : 05:52:13
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The following cemetery listing includes
Gilbert & Liv
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Cindy Acton
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Posted - 17/05/2010 : 07:42:12
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| Thanks for the information on Gilbert and Liv and on Tollev Halverson. Unfortunately, I think this is the wrong Tollev. The 1900 Census has a different birth month (April 1829 instead of Nov 1828) and a different arrival date (1847 instead of 1842). It could be him but it doesn't seem likely both would be wrong. |
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Linda Tollefson Therkelse
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Posted - 18/05/2010 : 00:25:24
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We must be very careful about Halvorsens in Winneshiek County! Ole Halvorsen Valle after immigrating in 1841, settled in Clayton County in 1846, then moved over the border into Winneshiek in the early 1850s. Ole Valle has numerous descendants, and all of his siblings and many other relatives immigrated to same area, all around Decorah. I know something about Ole Valle because I am also related to him; his father was brother to Bergit's mother Anne Larsdatter Valle (thus Bergit's uncle).
I had to stop yesterday because all those Ole Halvorsens were giving me a headache! :-) I found a Renville County history online, and found there were even more Ole Halvorsens, from different parts of Norway, living there. There was a lot of Norwegian immigration to Renville, and the town of Sacred Heart has a number of others from Numedal. Can't really work on work days... |
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Linda Tollefson Therkelse
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Posted - 18/05/2010 : 03:54:39
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| Tollev Halvorsen's birthdate is 30 Nov. 1827. I looked him up in the digital archive to make sure. His baptism is 02 Dec. 1827. This is in official Rollag book 1814-1828, p. 88, entry #1. The minister writes 1828 at the top, but the minister starts his church year at the end of Nov./beginning of Dec. of what we regard as the previous year. The parents are Halvor Olsen and Mari Ericksdatter Brække. The godparents/witnesses are Niels Bentsen Brække (hello, great-great-grandfather), Helleck (I think) Ericksen Walle, Even Knudsen Sveinsrud, Halvor Nielsen Mogstue. |
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Linda Tollefson Therkelse
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Posted - 18/05/2010 : 04:05:51
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BTW, as is the way with these Veggli folks, in that Bennington cemetery that was listed above, some of the those Nelsons are the children and grandchildren of Bent Nelson (Nielsen) , the son of the very same Niels Bentsen Brekke who appears in the baptism record for Tollev Halvorson.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 18/05/2010 : 16:06:51
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Hi.
Lots of interesting information.
I will not interfere the US records, I stick to the Norwegian information.
The meeting place in Veggli was at the old stave church, I assume they met there on the emigration day.
The old church was demolished 1861, a new opened 1859 in front of the old cemetery.
The old cemetery surrounded by a stone fence is behind the new church here.
Little exist from the old stave church, a baptism fountain and some other objects are used in the new church..
The old church was a small church, about 6.3 yds long, 5 yds wide and 4,1 yds hight.
Inside it was well decorated and painted, the colors were blue, bluegreen, brownred and black.
Outside it was a small room "Våpenrom" where axes, swords and spears were placed
Pople has lived in Veggli for thousands of years.
A recostructed cairn "Varde" from about 960 that every location was resposible for.
The cairn in veggli is called Vrågåvarden
Cairns covered the whole country and was set on fire with tar if a danger threathened the country.
Those days telegraph.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 18/05/2010 : 17:06:21
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Looking for Ole in the 1800s US records can be a challenge, during the civil war 1/3 of the soldiers in 15th of Wisconsin had Olsen as last name, the same was probably true with the first name Ole, about 80 of them were named Ole Olsen, they were told to change lastname, many of those who did used the farmname in Norway they came from.
Since both Tellef and Ole Halvorsen Fløse seem to have vanished, could be they were inspired by that and changed lastname, Fløse is difficult to pronunce, Brekke is no problem.
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